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  1. Disregarding all facts I am hearing about who is indeed the “normal” spouse. Both of them feel that they would rather have custody than have the option to remarry. Using the get as ransom is the act of his, but continued on by her refusing to concede on the same thing he wants.
    Time for them to realize the is only one cookie in the jar

    Comment by Ron — November 8, 2013 @ 5:34 AM

  2. the good rabbi obviously feels that if husbands and wives got along better with one another during their divorce proceedings and if they were both much nicer people, then the issues of agunah would not arise.

    Well, that's pretty disingenuous; if they got along better, then all issues revolving around a divorce would get resolved amicably – financial, custodial, visitation, and the issuance of a get would be a piece of kugel

    however, the Rodney King "can't we all just get along" doesn't quite work so well in most divorces; that's why there are lawyers, courts, and a lot of angry ex-spouses.

    Comment by Ch Hoffman — November 8, 2013 @ 7:23 AM

  3. the good rabbi obviously feels that if husbands and wives got along better with one another during their divorce proceedings and if they were both much nicer people, then the issues of agunah would not arise.

    Well, that's pretty disingenuous; if they got along better, then all issues revolving around a divorce would get resolved amicably – financial, custodial, visitation, and the issuance of a get would be a piece of kugel

    however, the Rodney King "can't we all just get along" doesn't quite work so well in most divorces; that's why there are lawyers, courts, and a lot of angry ex-spouses.

    Comment by Ch Hoffman — November 8, 2013 @ 7:23 AM

  4. You may not be aware that Weiss has recently published what he wants:

    1. Better custody that Weiss can get from civil court.

    2. Dodelson's parents have to pay him $350,000 as secutiry that Dodelson does not go to court to challenge the Weiss-favoring custody agreeement.

    3. An undisclosed sum of money for damages.

    So, it's not a matter of good spouse- bad spouse. This is what Weiss has now announced he is demanding as a condition to giving his ex-wife a get.

    If there is anything in the Torah that prevents a man from giving his ex-wife a get without extorting her, please post here.

    Comment by Jonathan Bachrach — November 17, 2013 @ 11:04 PM

  5. I am a young catholic woman working for a fathers rights attorney that practices in NYC. In the past few years we have helped represent several Jewish men in divorce.

    Reading the article today has made me have to comment, a practice I normally vehemently refrain from doing.

    The Civil Divorce system is broken. Men have very little rights if any, and only those that can afford high priced attorney's have any chance at all of coming out with anything but huge debt. The rest are systematically destroyed and many are even jailed. The system creates criminals out of good men fathers and the women get away with lying and manipulating the courts with full immunity from the law.

    I am not familiar with this particular case but have seen several very similar.

    In over 80% of all cases its the women that wants the divorce, the men are usually the ones that fight to keep the marriage going. The women then have to force the issue by hiring an attorney and suing in court for the divorce. The majority of divorce lawyers follow the same path and that is to get the husband out of the home as quickly as possible. They then proceed to reduce him to nothing more then a welfare state for the wife in the most disgusting and demeaning way.

    The easiest and quickest path to this is to start by turning them into criminals. It is common practice to immediately get restraining orders based on lies or exaggerated truths because we all know nothing will happen to the woman. What's worse is the husband has no clue that its happening and isn't even allowed to defend himself until its to late.

    At that point its all down hill for him. Most men go into panic mode and actually do break the law in one way or another thus proving the need for the restraining order to begin with. CAUSE AND EFECT. Its perfect tactics and works 99% of the time.

    For me as a young woman working for a fathers rights attorney, the shame of it is we don't have more orthodox Jewish clients because the rest have absolutely no recourse whatsoever. Suicide is not uncommon.

    The answer is for all divorcing couples to be civil and collaborate, and this is especially true with Orthodox Jewish women. Most if not all of you bring this upon yourself. If you live by your faith you die by your faith and anything you will do will be judged by your faith.

    Comment by Amy Fields — December 6, 2013 @ 4:18 PM

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