Wonderful for Baker to have done this. Very unfortunate that it is only a FORMER Israeli official who does do it. And very unfortunate that Israel itself has for so long failed to defend the legality of the settlements out loud. Better late than never, certainly. But I for one wish it had come a lot sooner, and with more confidence in the strength of our case.
I also wish that Baker had released the letter in some effective way so it could be read and known about by people other than a) the readers of the Jewish Press and b) the drone who opens Kerry's mail. Kerry himself will likely never see it. And if the State of Israel doesn't press the point officially, Kerry – who I'm guessing is not a reader of the Jewish Press — will never even confront the ideas, the facts or the legal argument that Baker has expressed.
These six things doth the Lord hate, yea seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look,a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, a false witness that speaketh lies and he that soweth discord among the brethren
YOU CANT TRUST KERRY ON ISRAEL HE IS EMBARRESED BY HIS JEWISH BLOOD AND OBAMA IS JUST TO WILLING TO SELL OUT ISRAEL> ITS TIME THAT WE AS JEWS SHOULD HAVE ANOTHER BUS TRIP TO WASHINGTON THE SAME WAY WE DID FOR BUSH>
Comment by Harvey Friedman — November 11, 2013 @ 3:18 AM
PRAYER for Kerry to know that he has the blood line of Abraham, for President Obama that he may repent & know that ISRAEL has been called by the creator as HIS first LOVE & the Promise made to Abraham, is a PROMISE!
Bruce & Pam Striebel , I truly wonder how stealing other people's land and killing them is totally OK according to your religions, both, what a god you have both with such high ethics and rare morality,,, and by the way did he give you a paper with his promise…!!!..because other people also claim he gave them the same promise
Typical liberal drivel. Kerry is continuing to take notes on diplomacy from Obama. If you say it, that makes it true, the facts be damned. We Americans hear them say and believe it to be the Truth. Well, Israel is not having it! Good for them. God bless Israel!
Comment by Sarah Williams — November 11, 2013 @ 7:09 AM
Mohammed El Batta There is an element of truth to what you say, God promised the land to the descendants of Abraham. Isaac, whose descendants are the Jews & Ishmael whose descendants are the Arabs. The promised land consists of Israel, Jordan, Lebanon & Syria. So who owns what?
Comment by John Lunsmann — November 11, 2013 @ 7:24 AM
Palestine is not a state or a country…It never has been and never will be
PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein made one such statement to the Dutch newspaper, Trouw, in March 5,1977. He said:
"The Palestinian people does not [sic.] exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism."
On September 13, 1993, the same day Arafat and Yitzhak Rabin signed the “Declaration of Principles” embodying those ideals for which he would later get the Nobel Prize, he explained his motives on Lebanese TV:
“Since we cannot defeat Israel in war, we do this in stages. We take any and every territory that we can of Palestine, and establish sovereignty there, and we use it as a springboard to take more. When the time comes, we can get the Arab nations to join us for the final blow against Israel.”
Comment by Robbie Goldstein — November 11, 2013 @ 8:15 AM
John Lunsmann The Bible explains who owns what in detail, down to tribal territories. G-D gave the Land of Israel to the Jews, and plenty of land to the Yismaelim. They should be satisfied with the lands they were given without trying to take Israel from the Jews.
Comment by Robbie Goldstein — November 11, 2013 @ 8:38 AM
Wise man. Israel must stand it's ground! God is with Israel!
Comment by Sandy Combs — November 11, 2013 @ 10:56 AM
Never was such a thing called the palestinian state.
The lie called "Palestinian"… Has its foundation in a liar and murderer Arafat..who is presently in the bowels of hell somewhere….cooking like an Arab pastry…Hahahahahaha….Kerry is a traitor,elitist who first has no place at this table outside of the fact he is a puppet for the Arabs,and second turned his back on soldiers during the Vietnam war….so his true credentials are…liar,coward,traitor…..
Comment by Don Sebold — November 11, 2013 @ 12:51 PM
Kerry is the biggest idiot imaginable. He is almost as stupid as obama.
Comment by Scooby Snaxx — November 11, 2013 @ 4:19 PM
Kerry, in my eyes, looks rather as an insane American who is just about to loose his entire sanity. Shouldn't He rather long ago be in ta such place where his hands, mouth, balls, could only touch his willing wife's most sexual desires? Is Kerry out of his mind when dealing with all to much of his abilities?
Best letter ever written to a Sec. of State, and terribly needed to apprise the Obama administration of their failings. The whole Obama administration is mistaken and ill advised, both in law and in fact – on every issue they are involved in.
The Hon. JAMES Kerry, U.S. Secretary of State, The State Department, Washington D.C. (emphasis mine)…nice touch…
Comment by Gil Gilman — November 11, 2013 @ 5:22 PM
Whilst paragraph 1 of article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention talks about 'forced transfer', paragraph 6 refers only to 'transfer'. Clearly, Israel is not in breach of paragraph 1, but could it be in breach of paragraph 6?
Mohammed El Batta Have you actually bothered to read the article by Baker that prompted this conversation? To say that land has been "stolen" implies that it was previously owned legally by another sovereign state. In the case of the West Bank it wasn't. That territory was previously controlled illegally by Jordan.
If Kerry loves the terrorists so much, he should send over some planes to load up these wonderful people and dump them on the Mexican border thus giving them plenty of land and allowing them to continue to do what they do best, using their women and children as shields while bombing their neighbours
Comment by Michelle Rod — November 11, 2013 @ 6:43 PM
Mr. Baker, please let our Israeli brothers and sisters know that there are so many people here in United States that love and support Israel. We are sickened at Mr. Kerry's words, tossed out so carelessly, last week. He is ignorant, uninformed and in power, which is a frightening combination. Would that he actually deigned to apologize for humiliating the government and people of Israel, a precious nation that has been the truest friend to America. Israel, we love you!
if Kerry even bothers to read the above……… the position for all of us to get is clear.NUTS to kerry
Comment by Mark L. Shane — November 11, 2013 @ 7:31 PM
POOR OLD KERRY! I DO REALLY THINK THAT YOU SHOULD APPLY FOR EARLY RETIREMENT, FOR, SOMETHING TELLS ME YOU HAVE THE ONSET OF SENILE DEMENTIA.
PLEASE, MAKE ROOM FOR REAL, EFFICENT POLITICIAN AND GO TO HELL WITH YOUR ARGUMENTS AND YOUR STUPIDITY.
GO, SET UP HOME WITHTHE ARABS, THOSE PHILISTINS or, in today's langage, PALESTINIANS, FROM THE HEBREW INTO ENGLISH, INVADERS!
I WHISH YOU IN ANTICIPATION GOOD RIDDANCE!
Geoffrey, would it not be absurd if the Geneva 4 convention had too separate meanings for one word in one article? In any case, transfer even by itself –without "forced"– implies or connotes that the action is compulsory. Transfer is a transitive verb, as you know. Hence it does not refer to a voluntary action but a compulsory one.
The idea of Article 49 as a whole is to protect those subject to transfer [and deportation] by outlawing it. Other articles of Geneva 4 are meant to protect the population of an occupied territory.
Deportation is seen in comments by Henri Coursier, an int'l law expert, as basically synonymous with transfer. The purpose of the article was to prevent what had happened to Jews during the Holocaust and WW2, when Jews were transferred or deported from many countries to the death camps in occupied Poland.
In any event, Judea and Samaria are NOT occupied by Israel, as Baker has made clear in other writings, including the Levy Commission Report made to the Israeli govt. Judea, Samaria and the rest of Israel were legally assigned to the Jewish National Home by the San Remo Conference  and the League of Nations . So Jewish ownership of the land was recognized by international law in those acts.
why have the US citizens, not DEMANDED that Obama fires Kerry immediately, and apologises to Israel for the unfortunate comment by this idiot, Kerry.
Kerry has given Abbas every reason NOT TO NEGOTIATE, but to make more demands on Israel.
As Don Sebold said, Kerry was a traitor and coward in the Vietnam war. He lied and was given hero medals.
The only people who know the truth about this idiot, are those soldiers who he turned his back on. He should have been court marshalled and imprisoned as a coward in a war zone.
And we all thought that Hilary Clinton was bad. She was an angel in comparison.
Dylan McInnis Israel is purely a defensive state. The ONLY reason they would ever use nukes is if someone else used one first or as a last resort (like any country would). Iran is the rouge state. They have constantly threatened Israel over the years while claiming they want peace at the same time, and the US is trying to let them continue to build nuclear weapons? How are you not connecting the dots here mate or are you really that stupid?
Thanks for posting this. I came across the article last night and was amazed at this response to the US position. Kudos to Alan Baker!!
Comment by Evelyn Sheskin — November 12, 2013 @ 3:34 AM
Dylan McInnis In case you haven't noticed, Israel is a tiny little country surrounded on all sides with either the sea, or enemy Arab countries. They HAVE to be strong and able to repel millions of people who would love to see them dead. They're not a rogue state; they are strong, smart, and always at the ready if they are assaulted in any manner. And then, they will give worse than they got, and that's only right. Kerry, Obama, Biden, and all the rest of those jerks in Congress don't speak for the people of the United States. Because we love Israel for the most part, and are solidly in support of them.
Finally someone lays out the truth. You will not get a reply from the man of no integrity who works for a man of no intelligence or integrity. I apologize for the United States government and beg your forgiveness for the people of America who put them in office. They were duped. I, like many, stand with Israel and will always pray for our government, your government and for the peace of Jerusalem.
Comment by Peggy Green — November 12, 2013 @ 9:28 AM
I do not hold a high opinion of James Kerry, U.S. Secretary of State, but it gives me great pleasure to see someone standing up to the incessant Israeli bullying of the United States. After listening to it for 45 years, and seeing billions of U.S dollars going to Israel, I am glad someone, anyone, has the huevos to tell Israel where to go. Your unabashed shooting of Palestinian schoolchildren and your taking Palestinian lands must be halted and if someone I loath can do that, then I will give Kerry high marks if he accomplishes such. Israel no longer has the moral high ground and it is especially gratifying to me to see Israel being held accountable not only by the United States but also by a growing number of nations for its "cowboy" behavior.
There is a new generation living and working in the world who have no experience with World War II. Most of us are tired of listening to Israel harp about the Germans and what happened during the war. That is ancient history. You have your country now. Stop whining ("exerting unfair pressure on Israel.") about everything, and start treating Palestinians like humans. Then you might regain at least some of the moral high ground. Until then, I have heard enough. And don't shoot, or otherwise maim, any more Palestinian children.
Now, call me any and all names Jews usually do to those who dissent with Israel's official line. I know who and what I am and the Jew's typical response to call people "haters," "anti-Semites," etc. leaves me nonplussed.
BTW, don't send the Jewish Defense League, or Mossad, or any other organization around to threaten me. I am a former United States Marine, a Vietnam veteran, I am armed to the teeth and I know how to kill. Thank you for reading this little missive. Maybe if Israel starts listening to the rest of the world, real change can come about.
John Kerry is, and has been, a traitor! He started his career by lying to Congress on the Viet Nam war. Veterans knew he was lying, but Congress lapped it up. He should be in Leavenworth for the last 40 years and the rest of his miserable life!
John Kerry is an uninformed arse. How did this man with such poor judgement get such a job as he has. Whoever appointed him made a serious error of judgement. If anyone agrees with JK, you also are an uninformed arse.
Palestinians have been there for generations. Most of the Zionists are immigrants. The modern Israel is not the same as the Israel in the Bible. Anyone, any race, from any country, can be a Jew by converting themselves by adapting their religion and culture.
Finally, I've found someone that is intelligent enough to see the truth. The Zionist is like a spoiled little brat. They were so used to get what they wanted. When they did not, they threw a temper tantrum.
Dylan McInnis You're right. Anyone can be a Jew even though the person is not descendent of a Jew. You are young but wise enough to understand this whole issue and againsts the mainstream that have been brainwashed.
I am not sure if Alan Baker qualifies as one of the Jewish Press' "legal experts" (and I do not claim to be one). However I do believe that while the 49th article of the Geneva Convention was one of the consequences to the Nazi actions, its intent is to prevent occupying armies from using the transfer of citizens into those territories for political or other gains.
There are other examples of this where the UN (and the world media and governments) has done nothing. The first that comes to mind is China's invasion and occupation of Tibet where millions of Chinese have been encouraged and sent to Tibet. I find it an unfortunate irony that Israel does not limit its connections to China. I guess the shekel speaks louder than justice when it comes to Israeli politicians.
Anyway, The Jewish Press and Mr. Baker's attempt to attack Kerry for defending what everyone knows is the US position on settlement activity in the West Bank is typical of those whose failure to understand the depth to which Israel's settlement policy is destroying our nation from within and without.
It is time for The Jewish Press and all the religious extremists who support these positions to understand that there is a Palestine and there exists a Palestinian People. While the Jewish ones were blessed to be part of the creation of the State of Israel, the rest have set out to create a nation of their own. Our (and your) continued efforts to prevent this by sticking your heads in the sand and ignoring reality will only continue to bring destruction to our great nation.
I suggest that you go out and rent The Gatekeepers Film, take a dose of reality and hopefully wake up from your crusade.
So, Mike, why do you read and comment in Jewish Press ? Being such a powerful man, a former US marine, armed to the teeth…
Comment by Anonymous — November 21, 2013 @ 8:17 PM
obama and kerry have NO credibility at all,their positions are the same as pa's and their positions are equally anti-Israel. They simply have no right to waste Israel's PM time any longer with their nazi propaganda,their LIES and inacceptable pressures which would make any agreement as illegal as the oslo TENTATIVE agreement which is totally INVALID.
Robert Davis : anti-Israel jews like you are just a pawn in the hands of those who want to destroy Israel first and jews thereafter. If you do not understand this it is only because you are not overly clever.