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  1. Rabbi Wein is not "haredi".

    Comment by Moshe Z. Matitya — December 6, 2013 @ 11:54 AM

  2. Rabbi Wein is not “haredi”.

    Comment by Moshe Z. Matitya — December 6, 2013 @ 1:55 PM

  3. Where is the daas Torah on this that the robonim can pasken that their people be ignorant and not
    Contribute to society and even a burden to society , shame on them .

    Comment by Alan Ash — December 6, 2013 @ 2:20 PM

  4. It’s time for them to come out of the 19th century. People are allowed to work.

    Comment by Ben II — December 6, 2013 @ 7:08 PM

  5. So how can Haredi men actually practice the Mitzvah of Keeping the Shabbat holy, if they don't work the rest of the week? Jews are supposed to rest from work on Shabbat (not just abstain from handling money and flipping electric switches). If there is no work done the 6 other days, then the Shabbat is devalued and not set aside. When studying Torah and praying are the only activities performed all 7 days, there is no longer a difference between the days.

    Comment by Myriam Obadia — December 7, 2013 @ 7:25 PM

  6. Moshe, how do you know whether Rabbi Wein fears Hashem or not? Isn't that supposed to be the true meaning of Haredi? Or has the meaning changed to Jew dressed in the 17th century Lithuanian fashion?

    Comment by Myriam Obadia — December 7, 2013 @ 7:29 PM

  7. @Myriam Obadia: "Or has the meaning changed to Jew dressed in the 17th century Lithuanian fashion?"

    Yes, it has.

    Comment by Moshe Z. Matitya — December 7, 2013 @ 9:59 PM

  8. Why don't you think he's haredi? How would you define haredi? Not hasidic, but haredi. I would say he is.

    Comment by Laura Ben-David — December 7, 2013 @ 11:49 PM

  9. @Laura: His views are in clear and direct contradiction to those of the hareidi political parties (UTJ and Shas) — as his article cited here clearly demonstrates.

    Comment by Moshe Z. Matitya — December 7, 2013 @ 11:56 PM

  10. he may not be politically haredi – or aligned with the haredi political parties in Israel – but he is certainly religiously haredi.

    Comment by Laura Ben-David — December 7, 2013 @ 11:58 PM

  11. THE LIBERAL RABBIS ARE TRYING EVERYTHING TO SILENCE ME. PLEASE MAKE CERTAIN THIS IS SEEN EVERYWHERE. I WAS KICKED OFF THE CONSERVATIVE RABBIS LIST SERV. FOR ATTACKING OBAMA AND RABBIS FOR OBAMA WHO HELPED PUT HIM IN OFFFICE. THIS MUST GO VIRAL. RABBI ROSENBERG

    —–

    On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:28 PM, <chaimdov@aol.com> wrote:

    Rabbi Dr. Bernhard Rosenberg SAYS President Obama You Have Some Nerve. ISRAEL Will Not LISTEN To You : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig8c795KymA#t=63

    Trying to speak to Roosevelt behind closed doors didn't help the Jews of Europe, 6,000,000 Jews were slaughtered, murdered, burned, vanished!

    Speak Up!

    לנסות לדבר עם רוזוולט בדלתיים סגורים לא עזר ליהודי אירופה, 6,000,000 יהודים נטבחו, נרצחו, נשרפו, נעלמו!

    דברו בקול רם!

    Comment by Bernhard Rosenberg — December 8, 2013 @ 2:04 AM

  12. the problem with "work" is like the problem with "America" in the 1890-1920 and "Palestine" in 1918-1939. If there is any competing influence on the young man (with or without family) life, the leaders of the Haredi camp are afraid that their own control will be compromised.

    It's called dictatorial exclusivity; and it works until those who are its victims recognize that their lives are the ones that are being ruined.

    Comment by Ch Hoffman — December 8, 2013 @ 9:39 AM

  13. End of the day; some should be learning full time and some should be working- it depends on the desire of the student. We need a certain say 10% full time learners to develop the future rabbis and poskim who will guide us. It takes 15-20 years of full time learning to develop the giants that can lead us only a few of many will achieve it. that is we need many to enter into the system to get there. Each one must make his personal decision for him and his family. Right now the number of learners is growing and way less than 10% so its not off balance. We would not have any problem if people gave their 10% to the learners in Israel.
    Each learner influences many others to return to Torah. This is all good. Of course we don't like that they are poor- we need to support them. Why do we justify the $500,000 in taxes thats needed to produce every surgeon and we don't justify the need to finance learners. In short we need these learners.

    Comment by Anonymous — December 9, 2013 @ 9:56 PM

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