Kerry and Obama want IIsrael to be an American protectorate, which it will be unless leadership freezes these talks now. The talks have nothing in them for Israel's benefit, it is all stacked against her interests. The hits have been great, the EU Directive, and Horizon 20-20, where Bibi had to gravel to be admitted (recognition of the BDS campaign coming down the pipeline). Then there was the Geneva convention, the vote of the P-5 plus 1, and the news leaks about Valerie Jarret and her secret Iranian talks last year, all this and more lead to the assumption that Israel has a whole new relationship with the US under Obama- Israel is the bad guy, and America is the good guy, come to save the poor Palestinians. Thus, Obama's wish is to coerce through threats Israel into submission. The newly passed EU Directive is meant to cripple Israel in the end and the US went along with it, mums the word. Everything is being done by the West to set Israel up for the fall. The latest Iranian victory has empowered her, to her people, and the world. Countries are lining up to do business with her. More money for her to build her conventional weapons arsenal and a delivery system for her nuke warheads. So thanks to the West and erroneous judgement, Iranian power has been effectively projected into the region, sanctions lifted and the plutonium enrichment goes on.. Again, all of this is done with Israel in mind, in that she will be put into a n existentially dangerous position. Israel must hunker down with its best minds now, and seek the opinion of its most wise and moral Jews. We have no where to turn but inwards. Maybe that is how it is supposed to be. Am Yisrael Chai, Dvorah bee, Irvine.
Comment by Anonymous — December 13, 2013 @ 6:26 PM
First and foremost, FREEZE these talks. There are diplomatic measures that could be taken right now, to throw a monkey wrench into the juggernaut coming straight at us. Why have I not seen any of them employed. We have lost the diplomatic war – time to fight back, sink or swim. Doing nothing is not a strategy, nor is trying to time these Arabs out. there are too many of them
Comment by Anonymous — December 13, 2013 @ 6:30 PM
Of course Israel cannot depend on the US, with Obama at the helm. They could back down, like in Afghanistan and Iraq, during Gulf War, or it could use its own forces to back the PA. God forbid, if that happened, we would see the most bitter fighting ever.
Comment by Anonymous — December 13, 2013 @ 6:38 PM
Stop all Israel-Palestiniab negotiations, Israel has to strike Judea, Samaria and Gaza for his own security and send out all the arabs, like the Syrians are doing with their own people, that is th Midle East law.
Option 2 is the most likely since after the last couple conflicts, not many US politicians will support action in Israel (at least as long as casualties occur). That's alright though, because nobody's tougher than Israel when cornered. It's important not to draw all the neighbors into the fight unless it's possible to defend the homeland while crippling their ability and will to fight at home…shouldn't be too hard to do, wink wink…sherman…temujin…do not salt the fields though…never salt the fields…we can turn the water back on, but getting the salt out of the soil is not easy…
NEVER have the Arabs had legal rights to the land in question. Any respecting Jew and Jewess understands that it is far worse to suffer loss of our national pride, through humiliation by the enemy, because for that sin, of self abasement, or self hatred, we shall surely suffer a thousand deaths. Better to die fighting evil than to live under it.
Comment by Anonymous — December 14, 2013 @ 8:09 PM
In my opinion it doesn't really matter what America does or any other country for that matter. Israel will not cease to exist as a nation, that much is certain. Period.
While the US makes a deal with Iran, we see that Iran is still in hot pursuit of learning how to make ICBM's. Recently they launched another monkey out to about 75 Kilometers. We sit by and watch and fantasize that even though Iran is working hard in every area of science which would be used to make a nuclear ICBM; that somehow that's all just circumstantial and they in fact really are not. I'd love to hear Kerry's plan of action should he be proven wrong, "which he will". This land has been given to Israel forever by God. It is completely absurd to witness the whole world trying to give it away. When a peace like that IS made it won’t last as it won’t be a true peace and try’s to steal God’s land. The US desire to collaborate with Israel to verify that Iran is living up to it’s nuclear agreements would be the equivalent of Israel going along with the west’s fantasy that Iran is much farther behind than it is in it’s nuclear pursuits. The US proposal to patrol the west bank is also not a solid Idea as no one but the US will respect it; making the US a combatant rather than a peace broker. I believe that these types of decisions are likely going to lead to the war spoken of in Isaiah 17 or possibly another conflict, and a one world government will be set up eventually due in part to the demand for peace and economic concerns after it’s finish. An agreement with Israel and the Arabs will be made and will start the 7 year tribulation period. Three 1/2 years into the tribulation period Russia and an Iranian lead Muslim confederacy will invade Israel and reach down to Egypt but will be defeated by the west. China in recent years has become more determined to set up a hegemony of sorts in Asia and the Pacific. Now they have expanded their “air defense identification zone” to enforce their claims on the Islands they “currently” say are theirs. Rev 9:16 and Rev 16:12 states that the nations of the east will invade and have an army of 200 million men. The forces of the west under the anti-Christ will then fight against the kings of the east in the valley of Armageddon. China looks now to be the leader of that eastern coalition. I wrote a small 6 or 7 page book that talks about what I believe the Bible states will take place soon as well as the potential trends I see at this time. I don’t accept donations and it’s free. It’s a short read. I encourage you to have a look: http://www.booksie.com/religion_and_spirituality/book/richard_b_barnes/after-the-rapture-whats-next
How can Israel trust the US? The present administration will not protect their own military personnel, their covert personnel or their ambassadors. How can they protect Israel's border when Obama refuses to protect the US borders? Lastly, how can any country or person trust one word out of Obama's mouth?
Also, Israel has the full protection of the greatest power available, period.