web analytics
April 18, 2015 / 29 Nisan, 5775
At a Glance
Blogs
Sponsored Post


Home » Blogs » DovBear »

Shafranian Evolution

See what you've done, YCT? You've made R. Shafran legitimize RIETS!
By:
Judge Pounding Gavel

A guest post by Y. Bloch 

Where have you been, Rabbi Avi Shafran? I guess life gets boring at Cross-Currents, where comments are verboten, so he moved on to blasting YCT on Times of Israel, going from talking about its “True and Tragic Colors: Yeshivat Chovevei Torah is simply not what it claims” to asking the question: “Open ‘Orthodoxy’?” Now, it seems, he’s arrived at a decision, at Haaretz.com, no less: “Be honest: Open Orthodoxy is not Orthodoxy.” I particularly enjoyed this paragraph:

But all those parts, for all their differences in orientation and practice, are unified by a belief system that embraces the Thirteen Principles of Maimonides (based on the broader three of Rav Yosef Albo, derived from the Talmud and other links in the chain of the Oral Tradition – our mesorah). An adherent of the late Lubavitcher Rebbe, a Satmar hasid, a “Litvish” yeshiva graduate and a student of Yeshiva University’s Rabbi Isaac Elchonon Theological Seminary are all are unified by the essence of what the world has called Orthodoxy for generations. But “Open Orthodoxy,” despite its name, has adulterated that essence, and sought to change both Jewish belief and Jewish praxis (as in ordaining women or suggesting that problematic Jewish marriages can simply be retroactively annulled).

See what you’ve done, YCT? You’ve made R. Shafran legitimize RIETS (Rabbi Isaac Elchanan Theological Seminary – Yeshiva University)! But it’s certainly a relief to know that Maimonides and Albo were really saying the same thing, which is just a distillation of “the Talmud and other links in the chain,” and Lubavitch, Satmar, Yeshivish and Yeshiva Universityish “are all are [sic] unified by the essence of what the world has called Orthodoxy for generations.” Thank you so much, The World, for telling us what Orthodoxy is. Otherwise we might have to study this stuff, but R. Shafran assures me that it’s all boilerplate. Just read Ani Maamin, it’ll suffice.

What this does answer for us is whether R. Shafran believes in evolution. Just over the course of October, he’s evolved from challenger to defamer to excommunicator. That may be Lamarckian, but it’s still evolution. I can’t wait for November’s screed, which I’m guessing will be on the NYT op-ed page. Anyone know how to get past the pay-wall?

Search for more information about excommunication at 4torah.com

Visit DovBear.

About the Author: DovBear blogs at: DovBear. For lack of a better metaphor, please consider this blog a very large shabbos table, where we sit together and discuss the parsha, the news, and other events of the day. Sometimes we yell, often we gossip, and, once in a while, the talk turns salacious. Our arguments are lively, but at the end of the day, its all just talk. The views expressed in this blog are solely those of the author and do not represent the views of The Jewish Press


If you don't see your comment after publishing it, refresh the page.

Our comments section is intended for meaningful responses and debates in a civilized manner. We ask that you respect the fact that we are a religious Jewish website and avoid inappropriate language at all cost.

If you promote any foreign religions, gods or messiahs, lies about Israel, anti-Semitism, or advocate violence (except against terrorists), your permission to comment may be revoked.

No Responses to “Shafranian Evolution”

Comments are closed.

Current Top Story
Daniel Lubetzky  president of V15 and CEO of Kind "healthy" bars
No Victory for V15 and Not Healthy ‘Healthy’ Snack Bars
Latest Blogs Stories
Doug Goldstein

How do money managers take care of your money? And have you ever heard of “socially responsible” investing?

05_04_51---Candle_web

In the memory of loved ones, I commit to continue the fight for our survival in their blessed memory

taxes-646509__180

The US Consulate in Israel should have people helping US citizens on various tax & benefits issues

Abbas sits behind "Palestine" sign at the United Nations.

This whole Arab Palestinian myth was concocted to prevent a viable Jewish state.

Teaching integrity is allowing family, friends, and associates see the business of living your life.

Chumros-YES! But when it comes to the Chilul HaShem described in the article they couldn’t care less

Yarmouk is the opportunity for “Pro-Palestinian” groups to prove they aren’t just anti-Israel.

Why are employers reluctant to hire Charedim? Legitimate concerns or plain old fashioned prejudice?

Obama’s policies are endangering world peace. This isn’t just an “Israel problem.”

What are common market risks and how do they affect your investments?

Regavim is an NGO whose mandate is to preserve the land of Israel for the State & the Jewish people

The “elephant in the room” is concern a deadlock pressures Bibi to forge a National Unity Government

Just like the shoppers on Black Friday those attending Rav Wosner’s funeral were oblivious to others

America’s in trouble. Is Obama too young or too close-minded to recall Americans fleeing Vietnam?

That Soren Kam, a totally unrepentant Nazi murderer, died a free man is a failure of justice

Iran not only hates the ‘Little Satan’, Israel, they hate the US- “The Great Satan too.

More Articles from DovBear

All groups have a mix of both good and bad people; it’s the ratio that differentiates us.

haredi protest with hat

Those who live lives of no sports, entertainment, or outdoor activities take what they can get.

Here is why opponents of R Shteinman think you should oppose him too.

Bring the professor and tell him off in a way the students can respect and understand.

This reduces the halachic process to an entirely ad hoc system.

Saul is neither the first nor the last of the wolf pack to unite the tribes.

Hundreds of thousands of Jews participate in Daf Yomi at some point.

Sinai is not history, Sinai is a happening.

Printed from: http://www.jewishpress.com/blogs/dovbear/shafranian-evolution/2013/10/29/

Scan this QR code to visit this page online: