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Orthodox Sweep Elections in Israel!

The only thing preventing it from becoming a reality is the tragic fact that so many Orthodox Jews prefer living in the Diaspora.

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Why waste your efforts in foreign gentile lands, when you can play a genuine, meaningful part in Israel? You, yes, you, can make Israel religious! You can bring Mashiach closer – by living in Israel and voting for Torah in Zion – not by being an insignificant minority in someone else’s land, adding another wing to the shul, and a bigger Shabbos Kiddush, deluding yourselves into thinking that Judaism in the exile will last.

This coming election in Israel, don’t blame Israel for not being religious. You only have yourself to blame.

About the Author: Tzvi Fishman was awarded the Israel Ministry of Education Prize for Creativity and Jewish Culture for his novel "Tevye in the Promised Land." For the past several years, he has written a popular and controversial blog at Arutz 7. A wide selection of his books are available at Amazon. The views expressed in this blog are solely those of the author and do not represent the views of The Jewish Press


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23 Responses to “Orthodox Sweep Elections in Israel!”

  1. Ain’t thet th’ truth! Fry mah hide! Yo’ got mah vote bruther. Uh, whut party is yo’ votin’ fo’?

  2. And Jesus said, you will become fisher's of men, for their very soul's.

  3. Charlie Hall says:

    There are at most 600,000 Orthodox Jews in the US, and probably half of them are below voting age. Even if every one of us made aliyah tomorrow, that would only increase the number of voters in Medinat Yisrael by 10% at most. That is ten Knesset seats, not 20. And you also are making the big assumption that the Orthodox in the diaspora would vote just like the Orthodox already in Israel once they make aliyah — remember that Barack Obama carried the Orthodox Jewish vote in the most recent Presidential election.

  4. Charlie Hall says:

    There are at most 600,000 Orthodox Jews in the US, and probably half of them are below voting age. Even if every one of us made aliyah tomorrow, that would only increase the number of voters in Medinat Yisrael by 10% at most. That is ten Knesset seats, not 20. And you also are making the big assumption that the Orthodox in the diaspora would vote just like the Orthodox already in Israel once they make aliyah — remember that Barack Obama carried the Orthodox Jewish vote in the most recent Presidential election.

  5. The last thing we in Israel need right now is to be "ruled" by the orthodox! Just a look at some recent pronouncements from "leading" rabbis is enough to explain why. And we certainly don't want to be coerced by the foreign theology of those who attended the so-called Internet asifa. What a nightmare that would be!

  6. Roc Diaz says:

    STOP ACTING STUPID, DUMBA$$

  7. Roc Diaz says:

    it would be great if every jew came home, then we would need more land to make room for our holy brothers. I think the arabs would be shaken to the floor and realize that their days in israel would then be numbered. on the other hand, if we are all in one place at one time, its possible that the other nations would try to get bold and wipe us out in one shot. hashem should then send mashiach to the rescue. even more disturbing than these things, ive heard even the ultra orthodox make statements like "we need to give back some land in order to make peace" and israel is still gulas untill the mashiach comes and we shouldn't be there for this reason at this time" many satmir hussids wouldn't even step foot here because of this flawed mentality. its not to simple that everyone returns and the orthodox majority rules and we take back all of the land that was aloted to us according to the torah. although should it happen, I believe that there would be a good chance for success. would I roll the dice to find out? I think I might. if this senarrio doesn't play out, then I hope that netenyahoo, lol, continues to seek councel from the observant jews who know him and does every single thing he can within his power to keep what we have now in israeli hands, with G-ds help!

  8. Charlie Hall says:

    Michael, you just pointed out why many of us Orthodox prefer the diaspora. We don't approve of religious coercion by a corrupt rabbinate many of whose members are still in the 17th century — or the 13th.

  9. He carried the modern orthodox,I no of no one in the Chassidic Shuls and othro communities with Zionist love of Israel who voted for him….

  10. Charlie Hall says:

    Romney carried the charedi parts of Brooklyn by landslide margins; he lost the modern orthodox parts of Manhattan and the Bronx by almost as much.

    That shows that Jews vote on the basis of ideology not self interest.

  11. Sorry Charlie, all I pointed out is an excuse why many orthodox in the diaspora don't make Aliyah. These are "issues" not reflections of day to day life.

    I don't knock life for OJs in the US. Mine was great. And I don't think people should make Aliyah unless they really want to and have a way to make a living here. However, there is no comparison whatsoever between the life here vs. there for an OJ. One is spiritually alive here. One is living at the source of Judaism, not aping it in a distant land. Jewish education here cannot be compared to there. There is no comparison to learning texts when one is fluent in Hebrew. One has access to the holiest sites. I could go on.

    You have the same "issues" in the US, but you live in a live and live society where you can just walk away from the issues. Here they are alive and matter. And they are "issues" because of the religious vibrancy.

    If you need an excuse not live here, you'll have to look elsewhere.

  12. Yossie Bloch says:

    Note that the author's math doesn't add up, as he seems to think you can get 1 seat in Knesset, which is impossible. Also, there as many non-Orthodox voting for Orthodox parties (mainly Shas) as Orthodox voting for non-Orthodox parties. Finally, the polls are all over the place. There is no Israeli Nate Silver for a very good reason: every state in the US must go either Dem or Rep, but in Israel every vote is counted (assuming the party gets over the 2.5% threshold). You can guess which party will get the most votes, but judging who'll be in 6th, 7th and 8th is a fool's errand.

  13. Hadar Israel says:

    Charlie INVENTS numbers and draws conclusions from them.
    Even Alan Dershowitz, certainly not known for ANY liking of the orthodox, has published VERY different numbers… IN ANY CASE, so-called "orthodox", that is observant Jews are nowadays about 25% of US Jews. Considering that there are about 5 millions REAL Jews in the US, how much is 1/4 of 5 millions? That Obamba carried the "orthodox" vote in the US is ANOTHER TOTAL B.S. Even in the middle of super-blue New York, neighborhoods with strong religious Jewish presence went to the GOP!

  14. Hadar Israel says:

    Charlie INVENTS numbers and draws conclusions from them.
    Even Alan Dershowitz, certainly not known for ANY liking of the orthodox, has published VERY different numbers… IN ANY CASE, so-called "orthodox", that is observant Jews are nowadays about 25% of US Jews. Considering that there are about 5 millions REAL Jews in the US, how much is 1/4 of 5 millions? That Obamba carried the "orthodox" vote in the US is ANOTHER TOTAL B.S. Even in the middle of super-blue New York, neighborhoods with strong religious Jewish presence went to the GOP!

  15. Charlie Hall says:

    Hadar Israel "Alan Dershowitz, certainly not known for ANY liking of the orthodox, has published VERY different numbers"

    National Jewish Population Survey of 1970 showed 11% of American Jews are Orthodox, for a little over 600,000. National Jewish Population Survey of 2001 showed 11% of American Jews are Orthodox, for a little over 500,000. It is possible that the number has grown somewhat since then, but not by a lot. Dershowitz is an attorney, not a demographer or a survey researcher.

    "That Obamba carried the "orthodox" vote in the US is ANOTHER TOTAL B.S."

    Wrong. The Republican Jewish Coalition exit poll showed Obama carrying the Orthodox vote by a 4% margin.

    " Even in the middle of super-blue New York, neighborhoods with strong religious Jewish presence went to the GOP!"

    Only SOME of those neighborhoods, as I indicated. Mine went for Obama by about a 65%-75% margin depending on election district.

  16. Hadar Israel says:

    I'd be ashamed of quoting 43 years old data and then 12 years old data showing practically the same, while natural growth among Orthodox Jews is more than DOUBLE the US average. You do it, but it won't help you. It is pure wishful thinking or manipulation by those who believe that you are Jewish if you claim to be, not if your MOTHER is Jewish or you convert ACCORDING TO HALAKHÀ! Dershowitz is too smart and his credibility to high a price to pay (not everyone gets to teach Law in the BEST UNIVERSITY IN THE WORLD!) to publish in his books data that can be easily contradicted.

  17. Charlie Hall says:

    Hadar, when you are in a hole, stop digging. There is no way that the Orthodox community increased from 11% to 25% in 12 years. That is an 8% annual growth rate. I've brought data; you are bring polemics.

    I await your retraction and apology for accusing ME of inventing numbers.

  18. Charlie Hall says:

    Dershowitz has in fact made some data errors in the past; a particularly bad one was when he wrote that only a few thousand Arabs were displaced by Israel's War of Independence. The actual numbers were several hundred thousand. Dershowitz corrected the error in a later edition.

  19. Charlie Hall says:

    "I'd be ashamed of quoting 43 years old data and then 12 years old data showing practically the same, while natural growth among Orthodox Jews is more than DOUBLE the US average. "

    If you actually knew anything about the American Jewish community you would be embarrassed to be making that statement. The complete destruction of the Jewish community in the central and south Bronx — much of which was Orthodox — is itself sufficient to outnumber every bit of growth in every other Orthodox community in America (and some other Orthodox communities have declined as well).

  20. This is not true. Do not believe that all Orthodox Jews are choosing to stay in America out of comfort. We want to come but can't afford it. Simple as that. G-d provides everything. He gives us what we need and right now nothing more. There are many MO Jews unfortunately who believe their home is in diaspora.. They don't even consider making aliyah. They have a nice house, their kids go to good schools, they can buy kosher meat. But like Rabbi Pinchas Winston states: "Exile is not redemption".

  21. This is not true. Do not believe that all Orthodox Jews are choosing to stay in America out of comfort. We want to come but can't afford it. Simple as that. G-d provides everything. He gives us what we need and right now nothing more. There are many MO Jews unfortunately who believe their home is in diaspora.. They don't even consider making aliyah. They have a nice house, their kids go to good schools, they can buy kosher meat. But like Rabbi Pinchas Winston states: "Exile is not redemption".

  22. Chava Nikki Bachle-Docks says:

    THANK YOU FOR WRITING THIS!!!

  23. Yehuda Cohen says:

    Moria: "We want to come but can't afford it. Simple as that."

    When I see large groups of Jews coming to Israel with only the clothes on their backs, puts to shame those who say they can't afford it.

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