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My Response to the Monsey Rabbi

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An American orthodox rabbi in Monsey recently wrote a response on Facebook to a post about the importance of living in the Land of Israel. His response was as follows: “You’re in exile, too. Last I checked, there is still a mosque on the temple mount, with Arabs shooting rockets [at you].”

This is my response to him and to every orthodox Jew who shares that mistaken view.

1. There are more mitzvot here in Eretz Yisrael (E”Y) than in chu”l (the diaspora). In all other facets of life, orthodox Jews prefer to put themselves in a position to perform more mitzvot, and in a more mehudar way. Unfortunately, when trying to find a heter to not have to live in E”Y, Jews in chu”l irrationally choose gashmi’ut over ruchni’ut (materialism over spirituality). I’ve had long discussions with my American orthodox friends, and though it usually takes an hour or more, eventually they all admit that that’s exactly what they are doing. I’m sure if you’re honest with yourself, you’ll see that truth as well. You don’t choose to live in America as a matter of religious principle, but rather out of convenience and inertia.

2. No religious Zionist claims that the galut is over, or that it is entirely over for Jews residing in E”Y (though Rashbi said that only one kicked out of E”Y is called an exilee). Rather, the question is one of where a Torah-observant Jew should choose to live. There has always been only one legitimate reason for not living in E”Y: pikuach nefesh (preservation of life). It was indeed dangerous to travel, and dangerous to live in E”Y. But that has changed with the emergence of the State of Israel and modern travel standards, such that the pikuach nefesh argument actually supports living in Israel, which has the 3rd highest life expectancy in the world (and 2nd for men)! By contrast, according to Wikipedia, the U.S. is number 37 on the list.

As you can see, the issue of missiles, terror and war, are blown out of proportion by the media. In fact, American men on average live 4.4 years less than their Israeli counterparts. If we look at stats for just Israeli Jews, life expectancy jumps 1-2 years for men and women, while for American Jews, the stats are the same as the general population. Life here is just plain healthier than in the States, and on a number of levels. I hope one day America will be as safe and healthy a place to live as Israel, but certainly one cannot justify refusing to make aliyah based on safety or health issues.

3. I presume you are familiar with the Gemara’s position on where to live when pikuach nefesh is not a factor. If not, here is the key passage from Ketubot 100b:

“Our Rabbis taught: One should always live in the Land of Israel, even in a town most of whose inhabitants are idolaters, but let no one live outside the Land, even in a town most of whose inhabitants are Israelites; for whoever lives in the Land of Israel may be considered to have a god, but whoever lives outside the Land may be regarded as one who has no god. For it is said in Scripture, To give you the Landof Canaan, to be your God. Has he, then, who does not live in the Land, no god?  But [this is what the text intended] to tell you, that whoever lives outside the Land may be regarded as one who worships idols. Similarly it was said in Scripture in [the story of] David, For they have driven me out this day that I should not cleave to the inheritance of the Lord, saying: Go, serve other gods. Now, whoever said to David, ‘Serve other gods’? But [the text intended] to tell you that whoever lives outside the Land may be regarded as one who worships idols. ” 

4. Pikuach nefesh aside, there is a philosophical question of whether the Jews should be passive or pro-active in the redemption process. Rather than make the case myself, take the time to read the Vilna Gaon’s position as presented in the first chapter of Kol HaTor (found here).

About the Author: Robert Klein lives in Be'ersheva, Israel.


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15 Responses to “My Response to the Monsey Rabbi”

  1. יואל דוידי says:

    one response to the so-called Rabbi: והארץ תתן פריה, א"ר אין לך קץ מגולה מזה.

  2. יואל דוידי says:

    A response to this so-called Rabbi:

    "אמר רבי אבא: אין לך קץ מגולה מזה שנאמר[: 'וְאַתֶּם הָרֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל עַנְפְּכֶם תִּתֵּנוּ וּפֶרְיְכֶם תִּשְׂאוּ לְעַמִּי יִשְׂרָאֵל כִּי קֵרְבוּ לָבוֹא' ע"כ. ומפרש רש"י: "'מגולה מזה' – כשתתן ארץ-ישראל פריה בעין יפה אז יקרב הקץ ואין לך קץ מגולה יותר".

  3. yeah yeah yeah, well I'm here but I've seen the machlokis in the avnie ezer on the sugeah of yeshuve eretz yisroel.i won't enter my own opinion being this is a diffrence of opinion between our greatest minds.perhaps the rabbi in monsey knows the complicated points of this.perhaps he doesn't.

  4. Lloyd Bergner says:

    Metzada lo tipol shaynit.

  5. Lloyd Bergner says:

    Am Yisrael Chai.

  6. Lloyd Bergner says:

    Jews worldwide UNITE or we all fall together.

  7. Stan Harder says:

    There is another reason all Jews do not return to E”Y. And that is that all Jews are not welcome there. Secular and Orthodox are ok. Everyone else can stay where they are. Please do not whine about Jewish demographics when all Jews are not allowed to make aliyah.

  8. Myriam Obadia says:

    Quit bickering. Each person faces different circumstances. Some can make Aliyah now, some others have to postpone and continue being good Jews outside Israel. Let is be and leave G-d in charge of resolving this. In the meantime, those who have already made Aliyah should help those who want to do so, but face obstacles. We're home to open the door to the rest of Israel, not to jeer at those who haven't yet been able to follow our example.

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An American orthodox rabbi in Monsey recently wrote a response on Facebook to a post about the importance of living in the Land of Israel. His response was as follows: “You’re in exile, too. Last I checked, there is still a mosque on the temple mount, with Arabs shooting rockets [at you].” This is my response to him and to every orthodox Jew who shares that mistaken view.

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