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All Feiglin really should say is that the gay community should do whatever it wants, raise its own money, and stop trying to legislate laws which cost money and force unwilling people to pay for something they don’t believe in.
MK Moshe Feiglin visited the LGBT center in Tel Aviv.

MK Moshe Feiglin visited the LGBT center in Tel Aviv.

A recent article appeared in Israel’s Ma’ariv newspaper (in Hebrew here) written by some guy who’s pretty decent, but doesn’t quite understand the concept of liberty all that well. To him, it’s a government guy saying he’ll fight for someone’s right to marry someone of the same sex, as if it matters who the government says you can marry at all, as if marriage were some sort of government institution. Marriage is whatever private people want it to be.

Moshe Feiglin himself does not fully grasp what liberty is, though he’s pretty close. According to him, the “status of the classical heterosexual family” has to be “protected,” as if saying that if the government does not actively “protect the classical family,” all of society will disintegrate into dysfunctional and total homosexuality.

What Feiglin doesn’t like, and I agree with him, is the government stealing money from one group and giving it to gay people. But the author of this article sounds like he’d like his own government goon to spend someone else’s money to promote same sex marriage with government funded advertising campaigns or something. I just want people to do whatever the heck they want to do without stealing money from anybody through government programs.

If the government subsidizes a gay couple (like gives them a tax break for being married according to the government), the people who don’t like gay couples get angry. If the government subsidizes a straight couple, the gay people who also want the subsidy get angry for not having “the right to be married”. It’s got nothing to do with a right to be married. It has to do with the right not to be stolen from. If straight people can get stolen from less (get a tax break) for being married, why can’t gay people? It’s always about money. Not marriage or love or tolerance. Let’s not forget that.

All Feiglin really should say is that the gay community should do whatever it wants, raise its own money, and stop trying to legislate laws which cost money and force unwilling people to pay for something they don’t believe in. And that as a Member of Knesset, he will make sure neither straights nor gays are being stolen from by government unequally.

Gay Jews, I call a truce! How about this: We the straight people promise to not get government to fund straight causes. You the gay people promise to not get government to fund gay causes. Then we can all go out for a drink at a mixed gay/straight bar. I’ll have the vanilla vodka with sprinkles and a cherry. You’ll have the whisky. Then we’ll go home and both do our familial thing, whatever that is.

The Ma’ariv article was a Kiddush Hashem. Whoever doesn’t see that and is wrapped up in the “homosexual abomination” thing, really does not have his eye on the ball of how healing this is. Moshe, thank you for doing this. Keep it up.

Here’s the link to my translation of the Ma’ariv article, on the homepage of Settlers of Samaria.

About the Author: Rafi Farber blogs at SettlersofSamaria.org.


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18 Responses to “Moshe Feiglin Walks Into a Gay Bar…”

  1. Tim Upham says:

    If he is so open minded about gays, then maybe he should be just as open-minded about Palestinians living in the West Bank. Because offering to pay them U.S. $500,000 a piece for leaving, is ludicrous. Not to mention it would take all of Israel's GDP for four years to pay them to try to leave.

  2. Alyssa Rubenstein says:

    Its no surprise an evil, Godless and immoral Israeli government would give money to promote the evils of homosexuality and allow homosexual day parades on the streets of Yerushalayim, they are spiting in God's face!

    Jewish press is a disgrace, they are wrapped up in Godless cultural Marxism; they are coddling the profoundly mentally ill homosexuals and pretending they are normal; it is an abomination, God has said so and those who deny this are denying God and what he stands for, they are desecrating Israel and dishonoring God!

    This is nothing new Israel has been dishonoring God for thousands of years.

  3. Alyssa Rubenstein says:

    Its no surprise an evil, Godless and immoral Israeli government would give money to promote the evils of homosexuality and allow homosexual day parades on the streets of Yerushalayim, they are spiting in God's face!

    Jewish press is a disgrace, they are wrapped up in Godless cultural Marxism; they are coddling the profoundly mentally ill homosexuals and pretending they are normal; it is an abomination, God has said so and those who deny this are denying God and what he stands for, they are desecrating Israel and dishonoring God!

    This is nothing new Israel has been dishonoring God for thousands of years.

  4. Charlie Hall says:

    This blogger thinks all taxes are theft, and doesn't want anyone to be subsidized. Yet he is a 'Settler of Samaria', which was 'settled' thanks to big subsidies from the Israeli government. Let him return the subsidies that were used to establish his settlement, and let him defend it himself rather than relying on the subsidized IDF!

  5. Charlie Hall says:

    This blogger thinks all taxes are theft, and doesn't want anyone to be subsidized. Yet he is a 'Settler of Samaria', which was 'settled' thanks to big subsidies from the Israeli government. Let him return the subsidies that were used to establish his settlement, and let him defend it himself rather than relying on the subsidized IDF!

  6. Charlie Hall says:

    This blogger thinks all taxes are theft, and doesn't want anyone to be subsidized. Yet he is a 'Settler of Samaria', which was 'settled' thanks to big subsidies from the Israeli government. Let him return the subsidies that were used to establish his settlement, and let him defend it himself rather than relying on the subsidized IDF!

  7. Charlie Hall says:

    This blogger thinks all taxes are theft, and doesn't want anyone to be subsidized. Yet he is a 'Settler of Samaria', which was 'settled' thanks to big subsidies from the Israeli government. Let him return the subsidies that were used to establish his settlement, and let him defend it himself rather than relying on the subsidized IDF!

  8. David Shalome says:

    Moshe Feiglin or Moishi FAYGALA? Shades of Bawney Fwank.

  9. Rafi Farber says:

    Hey Charlie, I see you're back. Indeed all taxes are theft, as my definition of theft is taking someone's property without his consent. What's yours? I return every government subsidy that is given to me that I am able to return. I would love to defend myself and not rely on the IDF. Unfortunately, the government does not let me. The IDF protects all cities Charlie, unfortunately, not just mine.

  10. Rafi Farber says:

    Hey Charlie, I see you're back. Indeed all taxes are theft, as my definition of theft is taking someone's property without his consent. What's yours? I return every government subsidy that is given to me that I am able to return. I would love to defend myself and not rely on the IDF. Unfortunately, the government does not let me. The IDF protects all cities Charlie, unfortunately, not just mine.

  11. Yehuda Cohen says:

    There's a Talmudic story about a person who had a bird but didn't know if it was a Kosher bird or not; so, he let it go to find out that it associated itself with non-kosher birds. Now we know who Moishi FAGlin is?

  12. Yehuda Cohen says:

    There's a Talmudic story about a person who had a bird but didn't know if it was a Kosher bird or not; so, he let it go to find out that it associated itself with non-kosher birds. Now we know who Moishi FAGlin is?

  13. Gary Morin says:

    David Shallome, Stick to your pro-Israel advocacy – you clearly know squat about issues of sexual orientation.

  14. so what does a person tell their children when they see gay couples kissing, eeew, it will bring shame upon the nations who support homosexual marriages, as their perverted sex isn't a right at all, and as you say it is about money.

  15. David Shalome says:

    not a problem, there are plenty of private donors who would pay for this. Perhaps the US gvt. should invest in this instead of sending them weapons and funds to support hamas the Muslim Brotherhood, the PA and Hizbollah

  16. David Shalome says:

    Gary Morin God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve, sperm is made for procreation, not to rot in somebody's anus.Homosexuality is the only sin in the Torah classified as an abomination, notice I said sin not sinner

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