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From Jerusalem – Not From New York


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Israel has a simple option in response to the UN upgrade of a “nation” bereft of history that is intent on stealing our Land to non-member state status: Immediate withdrawal from the United Nations. If the UN would know in advance that Israel would respond by withdrawal, this preposterous idea would never have gotten off the ground.

The interaction between the United Nations and the State of the Jews has become the central axis of the UN’s activity. Without Israel, the UN loses its raison d’etre. From our tiny little corner of the world, from our grasshopper view of all those giants, this seems patently absurd. But a check of the subjects of the majority of Security Council deliberations and decisions makes it impossible to ignore this logic-defying phenomenon: The entire world is obsessed with a tiny state that conducts itself more honorably, democratically and morally than most of the other UN members – and contributes to the world in a vast array of spheres, more than any other country.

The UN obsession with Israel is not based on Israel’s ethics or actions. It is on an entirely different plane. This is how British intellectuals described their anger at Israel to the dean of the Sapir College, Dr. Ze’ev Tzachor: “We dreamed of a place in which the Book of Books would be written anew in anticipation of the redemption of the world. For you are a treasured nation. The world had great expectations, and look what you have done.” (From a Makor Rishon interview written by Meir Uziel).

The world anticipates the declaration of liberty that will emerge from Zion. When this anticipation comes up empty-handed, it becomes disappointment and is translated into loss of legitimacy for the existence of a Jewish State on the face of the earth. The other side of the coin is traditional anti-Semitism of all sorts. All the anticipation and hopes from the universal humanistic message of Abraham on the one hand, and all the hatred for and opposition to that message on the other, are now directed at the State of Israel. Whether it likes it or not, Israel will always represent the Jewish message in the eyes of the world.

The incessant condemnations, the hypocrisy and the never-ending battles in the various UN committees express more than anything else the dichotomy of the world’s deep need for Israel and its fear of its light. After all, the UN cares about Arab human rights as much as it cares about last year’s snowflakes, as it has demonstrated with the ongoing catastrophe in Syria. When someone shouts at you, he clearly needs you. Without Israel, the UN loses its meaning and returns to the moral Stone Age, the pre-Abraham world.

But Israel is afraid of its own message. So it begs for recognition instead of understanding that if it would proudly bear its message to the world, the nations would vie to be recognized by the Jewish State . Post-Oslo Israel, which with its very own hands gave the keys of connection to the Promised Land to a non-nation, has no case against the world that recognizes this invented entity as a state.

The problem is not the UN. We are the problem. The solution is to immediately nullify the Oslo Accords; to prove our complete loyalty to all parts of the Land of Israel and first and foremost: to restore full and exclusive Israeli sovereignty over the Temple Mount. We must declare Israeli sovereignty over all parts of the Land of Israel that are in our hands, as stated in the Likud constitution. And then, we must withdraw from the United Nations. Switzerland managed just fine without being a member of the UN and we will also “survive” at least as well – and probably better – without it.

“And many nations will go and say, ‘Let us go up to the mountain of G-d and to the house of the G-d of Jacob, and he will teach us his way and we will go on his paths.’ For from Zion shall the Torah emanate and the word of G-d from Jerusalem.” (Micha 4)

From Jerusalem – not from New York.

About the Author: Moshe Feiglin is the Deputy Speaker of the Knesset and a member of Israel's Security and Defense Committee. He heads the Manhigut Yehudit ("Jewish Leadership") faction of Israel's governing Likud party. He is the founder of Manhigut Yehudit and Zo Artzeinu and the author of two books: "Where There Are No Men" and "War of Dreams." Feiglin served in the IDF as an officer in Combat Engineering and is a veteran of the Lebanon War. He lives in Ginot Shomron with his family.


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38 Responses to “From Jerusalem – Not From New York”

  1. Younique Stories says:

    you know Israel and the right in the US have alot in common.
    always lied about, the media distorts and cannot ever get a leg up.

  2. thinking of someone like Sharon just go in there and bom bam thank you mam. Tough leader

  3. Manhigut Yehudit & Moshe Feiglin in Likud For Jewish Leadership youre welcome to join the group but more important be a voter and join the likud and be one of the very few voices who decide the course of the future of the party that leads israel.

  4. I have for a long time advocated the withdrawal of Israel from the UN. As rightly pointed out the UN then loose all reason and foundation to exist; the best politcal move Israel can do now, is to deny validity to the UN and all its decisions, resolutions and other statements about or concerning Israel. It would certainly have the entire UN and – to a far lesser extent the US on the back heal. Fully support the move.

  5. Robin Ticker says:

    Bs"d

    How about using your clout and strong group of supporters to leave Likud together with all the other like minded MK's and join with all other like minded MK's as long as Netanyahu is unwilling to implement your ideological suggestions like claiming Har Habayit, denouncing Oslo, annexing Judea and Samaria etc. Manhigut Yehudit just like SWitzerland w/o UN will be just fine without Likud. Likud needs you to NOT implement your suggestions. Deep down you realized you are not helping your cause by sticking with Likud and that is why you see clearly that staying in the UN is not in Israels best interest. We must walk the walk and not just talk the talk. From Robin in NY but you can't take Jerusalem out from Robin (or for that matter from any authentic JEW) Some 'Jews' in Jerusalem like Olmert don't quite get it while others like myself, now situated in NY does. Hamakom sheli hu Eretz Yisroel vechol asher ani nosea, ani nosea LeEretz Yisroel (Rabbi Nachman of Bretzlev)

  6. Anonymous says:

    you know what? just go and leave the UN. that will be the last tip that u need to kill your country for good. your depending on america and germany otherwise you would have nothing your country would crash. germany will stop sending and that scares you to death. our country does not recognize any guilt anymore for the current generation of adults. that's y your special place in being recognized is gone. after seeing the war crimes and crimes against humanity, tortures and so on, the world is waking up and is telling you to stop. stop kidding urself and stop to lie to urself. palestine is a country, was always one and u started a genocide on those people.

  7. Anonymous says:

    you know what? just go and leave the UN. that will be the last tip that u need to kill your country for good. your depending on america and germany otherwise you would have nothing your country would crash. germany will stop sending and that scares you to death. our country does not recognize any guilt anymore for the current generation of adults. that's y your special place in being recognized is gone. after seeing the war crimes and crimes against humanity, tortures and so on, the world is waking up and is telling you to stop. stop kidding urself and stop to lie to urself. palestine is a country, was always one and u started a genocide on those people.

  8. Anonymous says:

    you know what? just go and leave the UN. that will be the last tip that u need to kill your country for good. your depending on america and germany otherwise you would have nothing your country would crash. germany will stop sending and that scares you to death. our country does not recognize any guilt anymore for the current generation of adults. that's y your special place in being recognized is gone. after seeing the war crimes and crimes against humanity, tortures and so on, the world is waking up and is telling you to stop. stop kidding urself and stop to lie to urself. palestine is a country, was always one and u started a genocide on those people.

  9. Anonymous says:

    he wasnt a leader he was a murderer. just like ur current murderer. a tough leader would not invade other peoples country in the first place. what ur talking about shows pure stupidity.

  10. Charlie Hall says:

    "If the UN would know in advance that Israel would respond by withdrawal, this preposterous idea would never have gotten off the ground."

    Only in an alternate reality.

  11. Leaving the UN will not improve the world’s view of Israel.
    What is so bad about the PLO having observer status? It may actually be better if the Palestinians are considered residents of a separate country. While they are considered refugees living on territory that is at least partially controlled by Israel, it is harder to fight back against them without drawing complaints of unfairness and disproportionate force. In the present arrangement Israel is considered to have some sort of fiduciary status with respect to providing for them. Fighting them looks to the outside world somewhat like an adult fighting his pre-school age children. If they are in a separate country it is more like an adult fighting back against another adult.
    Also, to the extent that Israel considers the lands on which the Palestinians live to be part of Israel in any way, it becomes easy to claim that Israel is an apartheid state—else why are the Palestinians not considered Israelis with all due political rights including the right to vote in Israeli elections. Of course there is precedent for this. Japan is home to large numbers of Asian people who have lived there for several generations and yet are not considered Japanese citizens. But no one is scrutinizing Japan the way they scrutinize Israel. Even the United States does not grant full rights to its citizens living in Puerto Rico and Washington DC. Those people have no voting representatives in Congress though they can vote in Presidential elections. But, of course, citizens living in DC or Puerto Rico can freely move to any state and have full citizenship rights. It is therefore understandable that some demand similar rights for Palestinians because they are living in what is, in some ways, a territory, a district—or even a colony—of Israel.
    The fact that the status of the Palestinians is so muddled is actually a big part of the problem. The area in which they live is in some ways a territory, in some ways a protectorate, in some ways a colony, and in some ways an international zone. Also, in some ways it is one or more separate countries. But regardless of what one calls it, Israel does have some control over it. The lack of clarity muddles the discussion of the “occupation” and questions of “apartheid.” These discussions always have at least two meanings:
    1) Israel is an occupier and an apartheid state because it is retaining control of the areas that are also partially controlled by Hamas and the PLO.
    2) Israel is an occupier and an apartheid state because it exists at all. The whole of Israel really belongs to the Palestinians and until the Jews leave (or, at least, agree to live in a country in which the majority of people are likely to Palestinian), Israel and the Jews will always be occupiers and perpetrators of apartheid.
    It is easy to gain apparent support for position 2) by making an argument that on the surface supports only position 1).
    If Israel were to declare specific fixed boundaries and state that it recognized the areas occupied by Palestinians as one or more separate countries (whatever they want to be—either a single country or Hamas-istan plus PLO-istan or whatever) there would still be disagreement but the choices would be more clear:
    1)A border dispute between Israel and neighboring countries. One would hope this could be resolved peacefully but border disputes do sometimes lead to war.

    2)Israel is an occupier and an apartheid state because it exists at all. The whole of Israel really belongs to the Palestinians and until the Jews leave (or, at least, agree to live in a country in which the majority of people are Palestinian), Israel and the Jews will always be occupiers and perpetrators of apartheid.

    I believe it would be a lot easier for Israel to defend its status if the matter were clarified as I have mentioned above. At present anyone can speak obliquely about the "occupation" without anyone else understanding what he or she is talking about. I think Israel can readily defend itself against arguments that it should not exist at all. I won’t go through all those arguments but basically most of the Israeli land was state land owned by Britain. This was deeded over to the new state and almost all the small amount of private land was purchased by Jews. The land purchases actually began in the 1890’s, long before WWII. So the amount of land that could possibly be in dispute regarding its having been owned by Palestinians prior to the modern declaration of Israeli independence is very small and, probably, compensation has already been paid for most of that. (And I won't even go into all the property stolen from Jews when they were expelled from Arab countries). But as long as the situation stays muddled more people are willing to sign on to the claim that Israel is an “occupier” an apartheid state and then this can be used as support for the argument that Israel itself should not exist at all.

  12. Gil Gilman says:

    apfelkuchen225, I was just wondering if you popped a few pills before heading off to your nonsensical journey of the tongue. Why bother spieling forth when you have nothing of merit to say? Is it merely to see your non-name up in lights? With a name like Apple Pie, there is no sweetness about you at all. Maybe however, yours are the small, bitter, apples associated with Northern European Paganism, and this makes sense in view of your irrational soliloquy.

  13. BRAVO, about time – someone actually gets it! The only credibility the UN has , is through a handful of member states such as Israel, USA and Canada…. what the hell are still doing hanging out there?

  14. Joel Elveson says:

    I am quite surprised these options were not explored as they should be!

  15. That article was clearly written as satire, yes?

  16. I agree with you on this. But how do you do this when the Jews in Israel and abroad are so devided. And when our goverment in Israel takes it's orders from The US & EU. All I can see is the Goverment is good at listening to every body but the Jews in Israel, who have to live with this mess. (Please G-d Save us, as we have no one but You).

  17. Reminds me why I have a feeling that Feiglin's grasp of reality is fundamentally unsound. Another state, which I will not mention, was removed from the UN decades ago, and even though they were no longer in that cesspit of hypocrisy, the UN continued to heap sanction after sanction on them.

  18. Gil Gilman says:

    Should Israel renounce membership in the U.N. I can only see that move as counterproductive in the short run. It certainly would not help in the public relations arena. Israel would certainly lose a venue for its voice to be heard. The U.S. has from time to time discussed the possibility of withdrawing from membership also, but it has never amounted to much for the very same reasons, not to mention the plum of being a charter member with veto power. I see the Security Council as drifting more and more to the background, but not losing power. After all, without the big five, from where would all the money come to support it? As long as Israel has friends on the Security Council, it should remain, regardless of how the 69% in the general assembly vote. They are mere pipsqueaks, and must raise all their voices together for the squeak to be heard.

    Quite apart from what Sour Apple stated in his "comment," it is the Palestinian Authority that lives in dread of losing international financial support, not to mention support from Israel. They are like those who look with envy on the productive lives of others, and work hard to to gain those assets for themselves. Being shortsighted, they can't see that once gained, the assets will melt away, because the Palestinians will work hard at nothing else, but will suck up the green and the dust, until there is no more. As King Lemuel said, "The leech has two daughters, 'give, give.'" It seems odd, to me at least, they would risk losing all that terrorist funding and pocket lining resource, by becoming a state, and losing a great deal of it, unless they are so used to international welfare, they expect it to continue without interruption, no matter what they do. With the current administration in the United States, it is easy to see why they could think that way.

    I do agree with a few sentiments revealed in the article, and the more astute comments thus far provided, first and foremost that the U.N. is an institution bankrupt both ethically and morally. It reminds me of nothing less than the Republic Senate in "Star Wars" headed by a sith lord in disguise, and moving toward becoming the dreaded empire, which must be destroyed to preserve freedom and individual thinking in the galaxy. But this has been true of the U.N. for a long, long time, and the majority are far, far away from rational thought.

  19. Rob Muchnick says:

    Tsvi, I love your comment and I loved your book! When will it become a movie?

  20. Anonymous says:

    To A.S. – And Bibi has a sound grasp of reality? He continues to give the PA 50 million dollars a month, he continues to evict Jews from their homes, he advocates for creating the state of "Palestine" in our biblical homeland, he signs a pathetic agreement giving Hamas every advantage and which also gives them legitimacy. But you think Feiglin's view of reality is unsound. Your grasp of reality is non-existent.

  21. Charlie Hall says:

    milousdad, Israel doesn't give the PA any money at all. Israel acts as a tax collector for the PA as it is required to under Oslo and later agreements. The money you mention is the PA's money. That is reality. The rest of your screed isn't about reality; it is that you disagree with Bibi. That's ok, but be honest about it.

  22. Though I agree with you that it would be a mistake for Israel to withdraw from the UN, your historical knowledge is inaccurate. There never was an independent Palestinian country. Prior to 1948 if a person was described as "Palestinian" the natural assumption of virtually everyone in the world would be that the person was a Jew living in the British governed area called Palestine. It's not as if the Jews just suddenly came back to Israel after 1948. Many Jews continued to live in Israel all through the various occupations by other countries such as Rome, the Ottoman Empire, and Britain. In the 1890's serious return efforts started by many groups of European Jews and they began returning in large numbers. When this immigration started, there were far more Jews living in what we now call Israel than there were Arabs and none of the Arabs would identify themselves as Palestinians. Such a term would have been an insult to most Arabs because it was the name given to the area by successive occupiers. As Jews moved in they brought increased economic activity and commerce. I know it might sound “racist” (even though Jews and Arabs are both on the same branch of the Caucasian race) to some to suggest that the Jews were better for the economy than the Arabs, but that what happened and it drew in large amounts of Arabs who eventually did outnumber the Jews in many regions of the original Balfour Declaration (though not in what was finally deemed to be the initial borders of Israel in 1948). And Jews did not “occupy” the land they used. They purchased it from whoever was identified as the previous owners. Actually, some of the heads of the Arab countries favored the Jewish influx because they felt it would be good for their own economies and some even considered having Israel be sort of a “canton” (like Switzerland) of their own states. Some Jewish leaders even wanted have accept such a status though there never was an official firm offer. Jewish immigration to the region continued to increase throughout the early 20th Century. If WWII had never occurred, there probably would have been more Jews there than there are now (if only because there would have been twice as many Jews in the world if half of them had not been killed by the Nazis). WWII absolutely blocked Jewish immigration until the end of the war. Many Jews died attempting to get there but they actually were blocked even by the Allies. After the war there were very large influxes of Jews. Many of the surviving European Jews went to Israel. But huge numbers came from Arab countries because they were expelled from their homes in Arab states. As far ownership of the land is concerned, virtually all of it was owned by Great Britain. Very little was private. Originally, in the Balfour Declaration, Britain promised the whole area of what had more or less been historical Israel to the Jews. After the War, Britain reneged on giving them the whole thing and gave more than half to Jordan which was supposedly going to be the Palestinian state. Virtually all the private land in Israel, which—again—is a very small percentage of the whole land area—was purchased by Jews or by others including other Muslims and Christians. Considerable compensation has already been given for land that was deemed to have rightfully belonged to aggrieved Arabs. Undoubtedly there are some parcels of land for which additional compensation should be paid. But within the main borders of Israel, there could not possibly be more than a tiny amount of such land.
    After both the 1948 and 1967 wars, in which the Arab states sought to destroy Israel, there was a general expectation that the Arab war refugees would be resettled in Arab lands. If that were done and if Israel were recognized by the Arab countries, there would be no conflict today and the descendants of these refugees (there really are extremely few real refugees left) would have been much better off. The Arabs blocked that in order turn the refugees into a weapon against Israel. That’s what they really are rather than an historical people.
    On the other hand, I don’t really see the harm in having one, two or any other number of countries external to Israel on the disputed territories mainly consisting of Gaza and the West Bank. Also, there is no reason why a new “people” cannot start. After a group gets sufficiently bonded, they may well become what one should call a people. If the Palestinians want to give that a try, that’s fine with me. Actually, there may be little other choice for them at this point, and that’s the pity. But I think they and the rest of the world have to be very clear on this. Once they are countries, that’s it. If they attack Israel there will be the same kind of response from Israel as there would be from any other country that was attacked by an external nation—the only difference being Israel has one of the best armies in the world including nuclear weapons mounted on very accurate missiles.

  23. yes applecake palestine was always a country given its name by the old romans who wanted to promote the big lie that Israel was the land of the pilistim like todays arabs living there promoted the big lie that they have always been there even if 90% of their ancestors came from S,Arabia,Egypt, Syria etc. after the real owners the jews came back and started cultivaing the land, which attracted the foreign arabs looking to work there. so we don't need your german chutzpa . your people's punishment is still to come – believe me.

  24. Rose Pappas says:

    I am not an expert at what all these treaties mean. But it made me cry with joy to think someone has a way out so Israel could finally be able to breathe freely with all the bullies off her back.

  25. I Like it, as long as Israel looks only on HaShem for help against her enemies. Don't look to the UN, don't even look to the US or any of the other nations that voted in favor of you or abstained from voting against you! HaShem is the only one that can and will help you, and will give you the victory over your enemies.

  26. GOD BLESS ALL OF GOD'S CHOSEN PEOPLE.

  27. Gil Gilman says:

    At least IFF it is pure stupidity, at least it is not impure thoughtless stupidity like that of Bad Apple 225.

  28. I am in total agreement.Israel should rsign from UN.It only serves the ant -isemites and allow Iran's evil leader a podium to speak his hate for the Jews.

  29. I am in total agreement.Israel should rsign from UN.It only serves the ant -isemites and allow Iran's evil leader a podium to speak his hate for the Jews.

  30. I am in total agreement.Israel should rsign from UN.It only serves the ant -isemites and allow Iran's evil leader a podium to speak his hate for the Jews.

  31. Don Mcglaun says:

    As it is written. Israel will be persecuted until Messiah sets up His Kingdom in Jerusalem. Hopefully that's not too far away. In the time being, Israel can walk softly and carry a big stick!

  32. Miriam Song says:

    Let's do everything you say here!

  33. Roc Diaz says:

    i dont think that your words can be taken seriously since you are sitting in NY.

  34. Roc Diaz says:

    225, you are truly a nazi. why deny it? its obvious

  35. Roc Diaz says:

    thank you allan, the palestinians are a non people

  36. Roc Diaz says:

    withdrawing from the UN is not a bad option. they mostly are anti semietics and hate us. if we withdraw and declare their descisions invalid, the only option would be for them to invade us at some point. I believe at that point Hashem would send our Redeemer, or give us the strength to defeat our advisaries. if the US was really in support of our tiny nation, then they too would withdraw from the un, since its so flawed and backwards.

  37. i will for the heck of it ????? go along with GOD. HE IS BIGGER AND BRIGHTER THAN ME.

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