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‘Everybody’s Aware That Israel’s Power Is Growing’: An Interview with Writer P. David Hornik

P. David Hornik

P. David Hornik

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Writing about Israeli politics can sometimes be a depressing endeavor, but P. David Hornik has been doing it consistently for over a decade for such media outlets as FrontPage Magazine, Pajamas Media, American Spectator, and The Jewish Press.

“I think it’s an important role to play. I take it very seriously,” Hornik said about writing for non-Jewish websites and publications. Born to secular parents in America, Hornik moved to Israel in 1984. “I had a pro-Israel passion which became an identification,” he explained, “until I realized that the only authentic thing I could do was make aliyah.”

“The Jewish Press recently spoke with Hornik about unfolding events in the Middle East, as well as his new book, Choosing Life in Israel (Freedom Press), which contains 70 of his best articles.

The Jewish Press: Secretary of State John Kerry was back in the Middle East last week pushing for Israeli-Palestinian peace negotiations to resume. Does Kerry really believe the Palestinians have the slightest interest in peace? Why is he pressing this issue so strongly?

Hornik: It’s a good question, and I have to admit that when I first heard that Kerry was making this big push on the Palestinian issue, I was amazed. This is delusive behavior.

But what is Kerry thinking?

People have this idea that the Palestinian issue is the root of the Middle East’s problems.

I also think there has to be a subconscious anti-Semitism functioning among some in the U.S. foreign policy establishment because it’s the [old canard] that “the Jews” are the root of the problem. It’s Jews building communities in Judea and Samaria, it’s Jews supposedly not really wanting peace – that’s what’s mucking everything up.

But with Syria exploding, Egypt exploding, Lebanon exploding, Iraq exploding, and Jordan in danger, they can’t attribute this to the Palestinian issue any more. They’re going to have to get out of this. That Kerry is still in it frankly amazes me.

Israel nonetheless agreed last week to renew negotiations with the Palestinians, apparently also agreeing to release 100 terrorists from jail. What do you make of all this?

It’s an unfortunate concession. Kerry may have wrung it out of Netanyahu with threats that if he didn’t agree to at least one of the Palestinians’ preconditions and the talks failed to materialize, the U.S. wouldn’t back Israel when the Palestinians go to the UN to get international backing for their claims on statehood and territory.

Nevertheless, this concession puts these talks – which already are in a bad light – in an even worse one. For the same reason that attempts at an ultimate Israeli-Palestinian compromise have always failed, this one too will fail. For deep-seated religio-cultural reasons, the Palestinians are incapable of recognizing and accepting Israel.

So you don’t think anything will come of these talks?

At this point, it’s not at all clear if they will even move past the talks-about-the-talks stage. It would be my preference, however, that the Israeli cabinet reject the current plans if they include a prisoner release, signaling that this time around Israeli lives and fundamental norms – such as punishment for the crime of murder – will not become playthings. If this incurs anger and penalization by the Obama administration [so be it].

In any event, I doubt that such penalization would occur because the pro-Israeli climate is so strong now in Congress and among the American population. [If necessary, though,] I think Israel should try to ward it off by turning to pro-Israeli actors in Washington and elsewhere in the U.S.

In Choosing Life in Israel, you write about far-left American-Jewish groups such as J Street that seem to work against Israel’s interests. How do you explain such behavior?

It’s hard to be a Jew. It’s a small people subject to anti-Semitism, and a weak person – a person without too much character, backbone or loyalty – thinks, “Why do I have to endure this?” At the same time, though, he doesn’t want to look like an absolute coward and convert – like Jews did in Europe 100 years ago – and he’s also probably so unreligious anyways that converting is not an option for him. So instead, he converts to what he sees as the prevailing intellectual tendency of abusing and criticizing Israel.

It’s a contemptible phenomenon, but I feel less worried about it now than I did a few years ago because it doesn’t seem to have damaged the mainstream support for Israel in America.

But things can change as this generation of American youngsters – educated on anti-Israel campuses – comes of age.

That’s true… so we have a battle to fight. We have to write the truth, publish the truth, and hope to prevail.

In your book you also write about European anti-Semitism. Can you elaborate?

There’s a very deep anti-Semitic tradition on that continent. It goes back over 1,000 years, and it hasn’t gone away. It’s a cynical, weak, decadent continent. People there no longer have the spunk or energy – even to have more than maybe one child. I remain pretty cynical about Europe.

On the other hand, their domestic problems with Muslim populations are getting acute and it’s forcing more of them to become realistic. In addition, Israel has so much to offer European militaries – what’s left of them – and we have so much to offer Europe on the economic level. We do an enormous amount of trade with the European Union. So you hear a lot of rhetoric about the Palestinians from European elders, but it doesn’t add up to too much in terms of boycotting or isolating us. It’s not really happening. We have too much to give.

Some people think that within 50 years or so, Muslims will overrun Europe demographically.

It seems possible, yes. These Muslim immigrant communities have much higher birth rates than the native Europeans. It could happen. And of course if it did happen, it wouldn’t be good for Israel.

What’s your prognosis of Israel’s future?

Well, Iran is a shadow hanging over us, and it will have to be dealt with in the not-too-distant future by the United States, NATO, Israel, or some combination thereof.

Other than that, I’m optimistic. I think our deterrence is very strong. Our technological prowess, our economic power, our military power – they’re all growing and everybody’s aware of it. The Arab world is very much aware that taking on Israel is a scary proposition. Even the European countries, whose governments continue to be abusive towards us, very much want to do business with Israel.

I think we’re on the upswing. My outlook is very positive.

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About the Author: Elliot Resnick is a Jewish Press staff reporter and holds a Masters degree from Yeshiva University’s Bernard Revel School of Jewish Studies.


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3 Responses to “‘Everybody’s Aware That Israel’s Power Is Growing’: An Interview with Writer P. David Hornik

  1. Laura Kerber says:

    I do realize that I am not capable of walking a mile in your shoes. I am not Jewish and I live in America. But I will say that I find it off-putting when those who do not agree with David are labeled anti-semitic. In fact, it really pisses me off!

  2. David Hornik says:

    Ah, Laura, it's not that they disagree with me. If disagreeing with me is the standard, then most of the people I know are anti-Semitic (most of them are Jews, and they're definitely not).

  3. Anonymous says:

    I am also a realist optimist. Mostly because G-d promised that he will redeem us at the end of times. So all will end up well- He promised!

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