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Haredim Being Drafted – to Ukrainian Army

Will the Haredim escape to Israel before or after the gates are closed.

Chabad Synagogue in Kharkov, Ukraine

Chabad Synagogue in Kharkov, Ukraine
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If not in Israel, then in the Ukraine.

Ultra-Orthodox yeshiva students in Kiev and other Ukrainian cities received draft notices to report to the Ukrainian army draft center, according to a report in Maariv.

Yeshiva students from multiple yeshivas in Kiev, including Chabad students, were told to report to the draft center, in response to the increasing tensions with Russia.

Unlike in the IDF, Jewish soldiers in the Ukrainian army cannot get kosher food (much less, Glatt Kosher food), cannot have beards, and must work on Shabbat – which is they day they clean the base. They certainly won’t be guaranteed time for daily prayers like they would be in the IDF.

Some of the students are considering running away to Israel.

The only question is, this time, will the Jews in the Ukraine decide to run away before it’s too late, or only after it’s too late.

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29 Responses to “Haredim Being Drafted – to Ukrainian Army”

  1. Dan Silagi says:

    The Israeli haredim don't want to fight for Israel? Fine, ship them to Ukraine where they can be cannon fodder.

  2. Jonathan Weber says:

    What a nightmare! I think most nations of the world now believe Obama is weak and they can do whatever they want. We already know he screwed up in Syria and probably Iran and is trying to impose his give the Palestinians what they want and they will be nice peaceful people. Yeah, right!

  3. Jonathan Weber says:

    What a nightmare! I think most nations of the world now believe Obama is weak and they can do whatever they want. We already know he screwed up in Syria and probably Iran and is trying to impose his give the Palestinians what they want and they will be nice peaceful people. Yeah, right!

  4. Ronny Mol says:

    This is another reason why aliyah 2 Israel is imperative. How in a week, Jewish life changed for the Jewish youth of the Ukraine. How Chabad spent millions of dollars, Breslov, millions of dollars to what end. To have everyone drafted in a goyish army. This is a repeat of Russian Jewish history. No men, who are going to protect the women and the children?
    Sell the property, for 10 cents on the dollar. The goyim know you need to leave. How in a week, life changed.

  5. What are Jews doing in a country that has centuries of bloody anti-Semitism? The Svvodba party has neo-Nazis in it! The heads of the Yeshivas there are playing with Shifchas Domim chas vchalilah! Shame on the Judenrat secular and religious leaders of that country!

  6. Dan Silagi says:

    OK, you can remove your mouth and tongue from Putin's rectal orifice now; you've made your point.

  7. The Ukraine is a country that has for centuries been an anti Jewish nation and was taken over by the Nazis. The Russian attack is an act of Hashem. More to come.

  8. more horror from civilization collapsing.

  9. sure they can go to Israel but only if they join the IDF

  10. Yechiel Baum says:

    TIME OF THE HAREDIM TO WAKE UP AND REALIZE THE REALITY OF TRUE LIFE AND NOT THE MAKE UP WORLD OF KOLLEL AND LIVING OFF SOMEONE ELSES HARD WORK SO LETS SEE THEM PROTEST AGAINST UKRAINE AND CALL THEM BAD WORDS LIKE THEY DO IN ISRAEL SINCE THEY CALL UP WHEN IN NEED.

  11. Anthony Kent says:

    The West has no appetite for Charge-of-the-Light-Brigade #2. Putin knows that, and has timed things perfectly post any possible Sochi Olympic boycott.

  12. Jonathan Weber says:

    Yechiel, you have a point. But, it is not all Haredim. Some want to work and even join the army. I think the their Rabbis are making it too difficult for them. I think too they are trying to control their charges rather than follow Torah.

  13. Joshua Rose says:

    Stupid. Religious Jews will run anywhere so long as they are not forced to kill other human beings, be they Russian or Arab. The Haredim were in Palestine well before the Zionists came along. The seculars provoked the 100 million Arabs surrounding Israel and they can deal with it. Ultimatum to Yesh Atid: GET OUT THE HOLYLAND OR LEAVE THE HAREDIM ALONE.

  14. Joshua Rose says:

    "…Jewish soldiers in the Ukrainian army cannot get kosher food, cannot have beards, and must work on Shabbat.." but they MUST be over kol isha…I

    On the contrary, it is better to eat treifos, be mechalel shabbos and shave with a razor than to serve in the Zionist army and support the heretical Israeli state. Why? Because the Israeli government is involved in sh'mad and shamelessly encourages gilui arayos and shefichos damim what with free abortions and surrogacy for same-gender "couples". Do you expect a real yirei hashem to defend this Jewish orchestrated catastrophe?

  15. Joshua Rose says:

    Better to die a faithful Haredi defending Ukraine than die a traitor to God by joining the IDF and protecting the illegitimate rebellion against the Torah.

  16. Joshua Rose says:

    Rabbi Freidman, the geulah has not arrived. Jews live in the galus just as God intended. Better to live among anti-Semites than in a "Jewish" state infused with anti-Judaism. The Zionist state has caused the spiritual destruction of countless souls. At least the bloody victims of Ukrainian neo-Nazism will rest in martyrs paradise. Alas, the majority of Israeli souls, spiritually killed off by the Israeli state, will disappear into oblivion.

  17. Joshua Rose says:

    With the push of one button, Iran will wipe Israel off the map. Then what? If they make aliya to anywhere – be it to the USA!

  18. Joshua Rose says:

    The Haredim want out with Israel. They will not defend her because in their eyes, God takes precedence over protecting a heretical state. So ship the seculars to Ukraine and let the Haredim live in peace with the Arabs once and for all.

  19. Paulinho Rosenbaum says:

    Guess HASHEM have decided is time for the charedim to engage in army affairs. Now, it´s about them to decide to do it leshem Shamayim in Israel or lebatalah in goyland.

  20. Zachary Kessin says:

    Not sure what Obama could do, short of war I'm sure Putin would be willing to pay any bill Obama sent, and I don't think any US President would want to go to war here

  21. Moishe Pupik says:

    Joshua Rose says: "March 5, 2014 at 12:46 AM "…Jewish soldiers in the Ukrainian army cannot get kosher food, cannot have beards, and must work on Shabbat.." but they MUST be over kol isha…" "On the contrary, it is better to eat treifos, be mechalel shabbos and shave with a razor than to serve in the Zionist army and support the heretical Israeli state. Why? Because the Israeli government is involved in sh'mad and shamelessly encourages gilui arayos and shefichos damim what with free abortions and surrogacy for same-gender "couples". Do you expect a real yirei hashem to defend this Jewish orchestrated catastrophe?"

    WOW! One must know only how to answer a heretic, not to actively debate with them. That is 100% forbidden. That goes for fools too.

  22. Running from the defense of your country because of the reasons cited in this artical will be the end of Isrial. The best defense you offer, is that it is too late to run? Shame! Run! Hide! The world will do with out you!

  23. God has a great sense of humor.

  24. It makes me so angry to read about the draft-dodging Haredi. In Israel, they are parasites, taking all the advantages of welfare and refusing to defend the only country that would recognize their needs to pray. All the young, fit Haredi should be drafted in Israel.

  25. joshua: The problem I have with the Haredim is that they appear to hate the State of Israel, but are happy to take all the welfare benefits that Israel gives them – and when they have large families, this is a terrible drain on the people of Israel who work and pay their taxes. Can you not understand this? Why should they live there, if they hate the State so much, yet be happy to take all that is offered to them and not lift one finger to help defend the country from the hostile enemies surrounding the State? If you are waiting for the Messiah, you could do that in Ukraine, for example.

  26. Joshua Rose says:

    Interesting. You don't have the same complaint against the successive Israeli governments who were more than happy to provide the Hareidim with their welfare benefits so long as they agreed to lend their parliamentary support on more important issues of state. If anyone is responsible for the current situation, it is the seculars – not the Hareidim. That was the deal, and it worked for decades. Sounds like a good partnership to me? The Zionists engineered this so they could use the Haredi vote by not allowing citizens who had not served in the army to join the work force, there perpetuating a cycle of poverty in the Haredi sector forcing them the Haredim to enter collations and offer their votes for money. This setup was surely the inspiration for the "land for peace" deal Israel has offered to the Arabs since 1967: "We give you land if you give us peace" was based on "we give you money if you give us votes."

    You should be angry with BenGurion for allowing the 400 exemptions in the first place, for that paved the way for the status quo. No, in fact you should blame Hitler for persecuting the Jews, for if not, their wouldn't be a state of Israel that needed defending. No, blame God for giving the Jewish nation the Torah, and made them hated by other nations for being different, for if not, all would live in harmony.

  27. Ronny Mol says:

    To the people who say the Haredim are living off someone else's work is NONSENSE. G-d gives your portion on Rosh HaShana depending on how well you treat your family, people and do what G-d commands. People who learn ALL day are the batteries of the world. They protect Israel and the world from negative things happening. They are just as important as a combat soldier. It obvious that the responders hate religion and the Haredim are a easy mark to say I am a Jew. The Jews have the only true religion in the world and most have no clue what it says to do. What is your purpose in life? What happens when you die? Go to http://www.divineinformation.com and choose Torah and Science in the language you know. If it was your family in the Ukraine, you would act differently, well ALL Jews are one unit since Joshua ben Nun lead the Jews into Israel. May Hashem save all the Jews of Ukraine and get them to Israel. It is the end of days. The only safe place is Israel. 3 things are hard to come by, learning Torah, the world to come and living in Israel. Pray to G-d for everything you need but learn how to do it from the Amidah/Shemoneh Esrei in the siddur/prayer book.

  28. Philip Melnick says:

    Ukraine needs more men in the army. Perhaps if enough soldiers come singing toward the Russian forces, Russia will feel bad and retreat. These Haredim can even add a few Yiddish songs to the mix. That would really tug at the heartstrings of the Russian soldiers.

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