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British Rabbis Scold Orthodox Shul for Letting Women Hold Torah

The issue of women becoming involved in synagogue services to the point of holding a Torah scroll is as loaded in the Diaspora than it is in Israel.
Women from the independent Mission Minyan group in San Francisco carry Torah scroll.

Women from the independent Mission Minyan group in San Francisco carry Torah scroll.
Photo Credit: San Francisco J-Weekly: Simon Goldrei

The British organization of orthodox communities has scolded a London orthodox synagogue for allowing women to hold and pass around a Torah scroll in the women’s section during prayers on Shabbat.

The incident has caused far less sensation than the more extreme and public campaign of the so-called Women of the Wall, a group of approximately 100 women who for years have campaigned to claim that “equality” means they can not only hold a Torah Scroll but also can read it at the Western Wall, adjacent to the Judaism’s holiest site, the Temple Mount, and in violation of the desires of most daily worshippers there.

Men, unlike women, have an obligation to pray in a minyan with at least nine other men and to hear the Torah scroll being read on Mondays, Thursday, holidays, Shabbat and holidays.

Women’s involvement in public prayer has become more pronounced in recent years, and orthodox Jewish “women’s only” minyans are not uncommon in the United States.

In almost all orthodox synagogues, the Torah scroll is taken out of the ark for reading and is carried through the men’s section, although women in many synagogues are able to touch it as it passes their sections.

The Golders Green United Synagogue has now allowed it to be handed over to a woman, who then passes it around the women’s section until it is returned for reading or to the ark.

Rabbis could raise the issue of Jewish law that perhaps a man cannot touch a Torah scroll that has been handled by a woman who is not ritually clean because of her menstrual period, but the overwhelming issue is the traditional separation of sexes and involvement in prayers as a matter of modesty. The fear is that once one traditional barrier is broken, all of the barriers will be battered down.

Professor Benny Chain, chairman of Golders Green United Synagogue, said, “People have said what an emotional experience it is and that they feel much more involved in the service,” the London Jewish Chronicle reported.

Rabbi Ephraim Padwa, head of the rabbinate of the Union of Orthodox Hebrew Congregations, condemned the practice as “Reform-influenced,” explaining that women handling the Torah and “breaches of this nature” come “from the influence of the Reform.”

The issue in the Diaspora usually arises during Simchat Torah, following the holiday of Sukkot. Women in American communities in Israel and others in the United States hold their own minyan for the holiday, read from the Torah scrolls and dance with them, as men have done for centuries.

The most outstanding aspect of the event of women holding a Torah scroll in the Golders Green synagogue is that is has not captured attention among the anti-Orthodox crowd and media elsewhere.

The New York Times took it on itself this year to sponsor the Women of the Wall campaign on its pages, inciting the American Jewish community to fury over the very idea of women not having the “right” to disturb centuries of tradition  at the Western Wall, all in the name of democracy and not Judaism.

Their claim that the Western Wall is a public place, and therefore open to all, holds not water. The Western Wall is a synagogue and is legally under the authority of the Western Wall Rabbi, misguided or not in not allowing women to hold their own minyan in other areas that would not disturb the public at large.

Unlike the Women of the Wall, the carrying of the Torah scroll by women in an orthodox synagogue is not a political campaign and is far more of a challenge to orthodox Jewry in the Diaspora. It raises a far more serious challenge to Orthodox rabbis throughout the world.

In Israel, where most Jews are “secular” but observe many Jewish laws and are generally respectful of tradition, “women’s rights” is of far less interest, The New York Times and the Women of the Wall notwithstanding.

About the Author: Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu is a graduate in journalism and economics from The George Washington University. He has worked as a cub reporter in rural Virginia and as senior copy editor for major Canadian metropolitan dailies. Tzvi wrote for Arutz Sheva for several years before joining the Jewish Press.


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11 Responses to “British Rabbis Scold Orthodox Shul for Letting Women Hold Torah”

  1. Anonymous says:

    Obviously these women are not "Orthodox" and their "shul" isn't Orthodox. You can tell that from the photo. They're obviously not dressed tsnius. Short sleeves, low-cut dresses, open sandals, not covering their hair, etc. And the men are not dressed as Orthodox men dress, either. Much ado about nothing, except perhaps in the non-observant community. San Francisco is a lliberally extreme world unto itself, anyway.

  2. It is hard for me to understand why some women feel they have a RIGHT to destroy mens' sacred Tradition but the men do not have a RIGHT to defend and perpetuate that Tradition.

  3. Nathan Katz says:

    Oh for goodness sake, don’t these guys have something better to do with their time?

  4. JD Mora says:

    And who are these idiots? Oh yes, the reactionaries who came after Reform Jews pretending to have God and it laws by the “hand”.

  5. JD Mora says:

    And who are these idiots? Oh yes, the reactionaries who came after Reform Jews pretending to have God and it laws by the “hand”.

  6. All you ever hear is religious freedom until we puke. Why can’t a shul, a movement or any entity run things the way they choose even if it’s old, unpopular, not progressive. Freedom is not one-sided.

  7. Dan Silagi says:

    These ultra-orthodox frumbag misogynist "rabbis" need to mind their own bleeping business.

  8. Dan Silagi says:

    Nebech, nebech, nebech. Next thing you know women will be yanking the lever of a voting machine, or grasping the steering wheel of an automobile. Even worse, squeezing the trigger of an M-16 rifle, sending some Islamic Talibanista opposed to women doing such things to his early demise. Oy!

    These hidebound troglodytes, starting with Ephriam Padwa, need to get their noses out of the 17th century where they've been buried the past 400 years, and mind their own bleeping business.

  9. Yossi Pollak says:

    "Rabbis could raise the issue of Jewish law that perhaps a man cannot touch a Torah scroll that has been handled by a woman who is not ritually clean because of her menstrual period,"

    Where do you find that in Jewish law?

  10. Alon Meltzer says:

    It's very interesting because the Gemorah in brachot 22b says the opposite, as does the rambam ‘All those who are impure, even niddot, arepermitted to hold a Torah scroll and to read from it, for the words of Torah are not susceptible totum’ah (impurity). This is provided that his hands are not filthy or dirty with mud; they should wash their hands and then touch it.’ —Rambam, Hilchhot Kriyot Shema 4:8, cited by the Shulchan Aruch

  11. Jacqui Burns says:

    Isn't it about time we appreciated that interpretations of Halacha by Rabbis from many century's back, however learned they may have been, are not necessarily correct. The interpretations were made BY MEN FOR MEN living in a totally different age when women were subservient in society. They often conflict with the actual words of Hashem in the Torah yet must be followed implicitly today because they are deemed to be unquestionable by anyone. Thus the mess these ancient Rabbis made of the divorce laws require the secular courts to sort matters out because our Rabbis today cannot just accept that such exalted men but still merely men) were wrong!

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