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Civil Rights Violations, Lies & Audiotape: B’klyn College Still in Spotlight

We are now in a situation where there seems to be no two ways about it - someone is lying, maybe several people. And school officials, both administration representatives as well as faculty members were on the scene - so if the students were unfairly ejected, an apology will hardly suffice.

Jews Who Were Allowed in to Brooklyn College BDS Event

Jews Who Were Allowed in to Brooklyn College BDS Event
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• In addition, a New York Daily News reporter wearing a kippah was allegedly barred from the event, even though other members of the press were present.  According to someone who claimed to be in line waiting to be admitted SJP people allowed in members of the public who were not on any pre-registration list.  Yonah Fredman wrote in a talkback to an Algemeiner article that he believed he was not admitted because he was speaking against the BDS movement while waiting in line.

• Ten minutes later, the four students were approached by Carlos Guzman (Guzman, the SJP president at Hunter College, is not affiliated with Brooklyn College), who asked them to hand over their printed material.  Goldberg gave him one copy, but refused to hand them all over.

According to Goldberg, this is what happened next:

“Let me reiterate that I was quiet this entire time at the event, that I was not disruptive, nor was I disseminating the material. Audio and video files from the event can prove that. Carlos then came very close to my face and threatened to have me forcibly removed if I did not hand all my documents over. I refused, turning to VP Morales for help. She was standing at the door to the event at the moment this was going on and I was sitting four seats in. She made eye contact with me but turned away, leaving my classmates and me to deal with security on our own.” When the four students were escorted out of the room by security, Goldberg said she turned to the college’s vice president for student affairs, Milga Morales, to ask her why she was being evicted.  “Her answer shocked me,” Goldberg wrote, “and therefore I remember it, word for word.  She said, ‘it’s their event and they’re calling the shots.’” When the students who had been ejected complained that all they were doing was, in Goldberg’s words, “simply taking notes so we could ask informed questions like we were encouraged to do by the school and Political Science Department.”

REASON FOR EXPULSION ACCORDING TO SJP

The official statement by the SJP denied that anyone was denied entrance to the event or was ejected for any reasons other than lack of space or because the students were being disruptive:

“The individuals in question were speaking loudly enough to prompt people sitting around them to ask them to be quiet. They were talking, shuffling papers, and moving noisily around in their seats for several minutes, while Dr. Butler was talking, prompting complaints from other attendees sitting nearby.”

The SJP further stated that they removed the students “after consulting with security, after they failed to comply with requests to be quiet.”

To bolster their contention that they did not discriminate, the SJP statement includes a claim that other supporters have made elsewhere:  “There were many Jewish students and non-students in attendance, with varying viewpoints on the subject, some of whom asked challenging questions during the question and answer period.”

The presence of Jews at the BDS event and whether that means the Expelled Four were not removed for a discriminatory reason is one that will undoubtedly be examined during the official investigation.

However, some who claimed there were Jews present were clearly referring to two very visible members of the Naturie Karta sect, a vehemently anti-Zionist offshoot of Judasim whose adherents pose hugging Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, appear at events aimed at De-Judaizing Al Quds (the Arabic name for Jerusalem) and protest at most major pro-Israel events.

EVIDENCE THAT STUDENTS WERE NOT DISRUPTIVE The clearest evidence that the Expelled Four were not creating a disruption at the BDS event is an audiotape of that event which was made public by the Algemeiner on February 12. “The recording device was positioned only two rows in front of the Jewish students and was able to clearly pick up the voice of Judith Butler several rows ahead.” Listen to the recording here; no disturbance can be heard, although some laughter, noises from outside the building, and even the clicking of pens is audible.  It isn’t until Goldberg is heard asking why she had to turn over her written material that voices other than Judith Butler’s are heard at all.

About the Author: Lori Lowenthal Marcus is the US correspondent for The Jewish Press. She is a recovered lawyer who previously practiced First Amendment law and taught in Philadelphia-area graduate and law schools.


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20 Responses to “Civil Rights Violations, Lies & Audiotape: B’klyn College Still in Spotlight”

  1. Rav Goy says:

    maybe its time to boycott brooklyn college.

  2. Phil Schiff says:

    Time for a few civil rights suits.

  3. SOUNDS LIKE RUTGERS, BUT WE SPOKE OUT. I WAS THERE.

  4. Johnny Simson says:

    May be its time for Jewish donosr to stop donating to this collage? I am sure the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia will be happy to donate to this collage.

  5. Lori, we are dealing with a situation where the protection, like an etrog, of Islamic dictates is sacrosanct. So much so, that truth and justice is nowhere to be found, particularly within leftist academia.
    Want more heartburn? Take a peek – http://adinakutnicki.com/2013/02/03/the-nexus-between-western-academia-the-international-solidarity-movement-ism-leftist-jews-commentary-by-adina-kutnicki/.
    This jihadi circus is under the umbrella/terror hydra of the ISM, regardless of "this name or that name".
    Time to make them pay – leftist academia and their Islamic counterparts!
    Adina Kutnicki, Israel – http://adinakutnicki.com/about/.

  6. Nanette CohenRayman says:

    even IF the Jewish students were being disruptive, I say: RIGHT ON! so when would be the approprate time to be disruptive? when BDS/HAMAS carries out the real agenda? kill the Jews. Should Jews wait until they did in Nazi Germany? NO! Now is the time to BE disruptive.

  7. Alan Kardon says:

    First, Was this incident taped? If not, why? That will show who is at fault.
    Secondly, this is a public institution funded by tax dollars. It cannot by law descriminate against any person wishing to attend. Lets hold the school adminstration accountable for allowing this to happen on public property.

  8. I attended Midwood High School down the street from B'klyn College in the late 50's and even then it was a foundation for radicalism. Why the surprise now?

  9. Lori, the ACLU is a gang of hypocrites from way back. Ramsey [Ramzi] Clark, LBJ's attorney general, was head of the ACLU back when Khomeini took over Iran. Clark was very favorable towards Khomeini's new regime. He even blamed the American Jews from keeping the US from welcoming and recognizing Khomeini. He was annoyed then with how the American Jews were using their freedom of speech. A Clark ally, the Nation magazine, even claimed that those writing the new Iranian constitution had "impecabble civil libertarian credentials."
    Don't expect any help from the ACLU. They are fake civil libertarians.

  10. spelling error: spell the word "impeccable".

    By the way, if a private group is holding a meeting on public property, such as an SJP meeting at CCNY, can such group exclude whomever they want to?

  11. the brooklyn college president should be removed on the basis of being an imbecile. the low IQ jew hater "in charge of student affairs" should be fired immediately. a civil rights lawsuit would be in order. as would lawsuits filed against individuals and their personal property. how dare our tax dollars be used for this crap.

  12. Jon Erk says:

    Was taped by the Palestinian students. Audience was explicitly told they'd be removed if they taped anything.

  13. Jon Erk says:

    Was taped by the Palestinian students. Audience was explicitly told they'd be removed if they taped anything.

  14. Roy Ben-Moshe says:

    I was there, and two orthodox Jews in front of me were being disruptive just under the threshold necessary for being kicked out. Seriously, if you're planning on disrupting an event, then disrupt it with a political message, and if you're planning on sitting and listening, then just sit down and be quiet. You can't have it both ways – be disruptive at a panel discussion and then expect to maintain your seat.

  15. We must find a way to help our children deal with the hateful, violent culture that Moslem student and professors are bringing to American campuses or our children will not feel safe in public colleges anymore. The same way that Non-Moslems don't feel safe in Islamic lands.
    In Islamic countries like Syria and Iraq, these Moslems are killing and torturing each other, even children, in most savage ways and for them showing hatred toward "others", even when these "others" are Moslems is a normal way of life and a normal cultural mode.
    Maybe the next event in Brooklyn college should be called:" Lets learn how to deal with the hateful, violent culture that Moslem students are bringing with them to our Campuses". Intellectuals with the right experience, specially psychologists must be invited to help us deal with this issue. We don't want Brooklyn to change into an Islamic State.

  16. Sounds like what happened at Rutgers. I WAS THERE. RABBI ROSENBERG WHY IS NO ONE MAKING THE COMPARISON? ARE students afraid?

    Sounds like what happened at Rutgers. I WAS THERE. RABBI ROSENBERG WHY IS NO ONE MAKING THE COMPARISON? ARE students afraid?

  17. Rutgers told to crack down on anti-Semitic threats.

    http://www.wnd.com/2011/07/319805/

    Jul 8, 2011… Rutgers campus The The Zionist Organization of America is demanding that Rutgers University address an anti-Semitic atmosphere it has…

  18. Subject: sounds like rutgers. I WAS THERE. RABBI ROSENBERG WHY IS NO ONE MAKING THE COMPARISON? are students afraid?

  19. I think, that it is not easy to say better. Such authors of legal articles are welcomed on Attorney Online. Moreover, Attorney Directory was created to gather together contacts of the best US lawyers to categories like this rubric of Florida civil lawyers http://attorney-online.info/dir/civil/florida/33 It is free and lawyers shouldn’t pay to submit their contacts to this directory.

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