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Civil Rights Violations, Lies & Audiotape: B’klyn College Still in Spotlight

We are now in a situation where there seems to be no two ways about it - someone is lying, maybe several people. And school officials, both administration representatives as well as faculty members were on the scene - so if the students were unfairly ejected, an apology will hardly suffice.

Jews Who Were Allowed in to Brooklyn College BDS Event

Jews Who Were Allowed in to Brooklyn College BDS Event
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Although at least one obviously Jewish member of the press was denied entry to the event, there were others present, yet their contemporaneous reports of the event did not indicate there were outbursts or disruptions.  That is true for reports from the New York Times and the Chronicle of Higher Education.

An interview printed the day after the event in the Electronic Intifada, a fervently pro-BDS site run by Ali Abunimah, one of the most aggressively anti-Israel media voices today, also confirms there were no audible disruptions.

Alex Kane, an editor at the radical leftist Mondoweiss blog, was at the event and was asked by the interviewer from the Electronic Intifada site to “[s]et the scene for us inside and outside the event, talk about what the speakers said and how they were received by the audience,” to which Kane replied, “the event really went off without any problems.”

After describing the scene outside and the lead-up to the event, Kane finished describing what occurred inside the room at the event this way:

Judith Butler did a fantastic job in refuting the anti-Semitism charge, as did Omar Barghouti. It was great, and the question and answer session was also interesting, there were a few questions that were critical of Barghouti and Butler, but in general the questioners were also friendly to Barghouti and Butler, and Barghouti got a lot of applause when he was speaking.

In general, it was a fantastic event and a real big victory for free speech, for academic freedom, and for the movement for Palestinian freedom.

In an additional report about the BDS event, an online commentator for the New York Times, Stanley Fish, who wrote as if he was present at the event, snarked at those who weighed in against the event.  He wrote, “Had they been in attendance, they would have heard Judith Butler give a letter-perfect account of what academic freedom is. She said to the assembled audience, ‘I presume that you came to hear what there is to be said, and so to test your preconceptions against what some people have to say, to see whether your objections can be met and your questions answered.’”

But the students who wished to test that “letter-perfect” account of academic freedom were unable to do so because of the actions of the very people Fish was so vigorously defending.   And the fact that his column is headlined, “Academic Freedom Vindicated in Brooklyn” suggests that he also did not observe any disturbances.

A leftist blogger who was present at the event, described Butler’s talk: “The philosopher spoke with measured pauses that made audible, in turn, muffled chants from the wall behind her.”  Nothing about any disruption, in fact, quite the opposite.  Salon had a supportive article, which ran nearly 24 hours after the event, the subheadline of which was, “The Brooklyn College event went ahead without disruption, and the Berkeley philosopher [Butler] summed up why it matters.”

SO WHY DID BROOKLYN COLLEGE CLAIM THAT EXPELLED STUDENTS WERE DISRUPTIVE? Before the existence of the audiotape was known, Brooklyn College issued a statement condemning the Expelled Four.

The spokesperson for the college, Jeremy Thompson, was quoted in several news accounts, including the New York Daily News and the Algemeiner, claiming that the pro-Israel students were disruptive and disrespectful. His words were used as support for BDS proponents to prove the pro-Israel students were lying.

Thompson had said, “My understanding is that from the first speaker they began to speak out, they were becoming vocal and disruptive to the members around them and one of the student organizers of the event went to them and said ‘you really need to be quiet you’re disrupting other people around you.’ They then did not comply and a couple of police officers asked them to come out into the lobby.” Thompson also was quoted in the Algemeiner as saying that “school officials in attendance, including Morales, confirmed this account.”

The Jewish Press had a long interview with Thompson, to root out the basis for his statements.

Thompson was not at the BDS event, but several BC administrators were, as were several “faculty marshalls,” although he only heard from members of the administration.  He was careful to make clear that it was unlikely any of the Brooklyn College officials were present in the room during the entire event, and that it was possible that what was reported to him was based upon reports made by students to the administrators who were on site that evening.

About the Author: Lori Lowenthal Marcus is the US correspondent for The Jewish Press. She is a recovered lawyer who previously practiced First Amendment law and taught in Philadelphia-area graduate and law schools.


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20 Responses to “Civil Rights Violations, Lies & Audiotape: B’klyn College Still in Spotlight”

  1. Rav Goy says:

    maybe its time to boycott brooklyn college.

  2. Phil Schiff says:

    Time for a few civil rights suits.

  3. SOUNDS LIKE RUTGERS, BUT WE SPOKE OUT. I WAS THERE.

  4. Johnny Simson says:

    May be its time for Jewish donosr to stop donating to this collage? I am sure the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia will be happy to donate to this collage.

  5. Lori, we are dealing with a situation where the protection, like an etrog, of Islamic dictates is sacrosanct. So much so, that truth and justice is nowhere to be found, particularly within leftist academia.
    Want more heartburn? Take a peek – http://adinakutnicki.com/2013/02/03/the-nexus-between-western-academia-the-international-solidarity-movement-ism-leftist-jews-commentary-by-adina-kutnicki/.
    This jihadi circus is under the umbrella/terror hydra of the ISM, regardless of "this name or that name".
    Time to make them pay – leftist academia and their Islamic counterparts!
    Adina Kutnicki, Israel – http://adinakutnicki.com/about/.

  6. Nanette CohenRayman says:

    even IF the Jewish students were being disruptive, I say: RIGHT ON! so when would be the approprate time to be disruptive? when BDS/HAMAS carries out the real agenda? kill the Jews. Should Jews wait until they did in Nazi Germany? NO! Now is the time to BE disruptive.

  7. Alan Kardon says:

    First, Was this incident taped? If not, why? That will show who is at fault.
    Secondly, this is a public institution funded by tax dollars. It cannot by law descriminate against any person wishing to attend. Lets hold the school adminstration accountable for allowing this to happen on public property.

  8. I attended Midwood High School down the street from B'klyn College in the late 50's and even then it was a foundation for radicalism. Why the surprise now?

  9. Lori, the ACLU is a gang of hypocrites from way back. Ramsey [Ramzi] Clark, LBJ's attorney general, was head of the ACLU back when Khomeini took over Iran. Clark was very favorable towards Khomeini's new regime. He even blamed the American Jews from keeping the US from welcoming and recognizing Khomeini. He was annoyed then with how the American Jews were using their freedom of speech. A Clark ally, the Nation magazine, even claimed that those writing the new Iranian constitution had "impecabble civil libertarian credentials."
    Don't expect any help from the ACLU. They are fake civil libertarians.

  10. spelling error: spell the word "impeccable".

    By the way, if a private group is holding a meeting on public property, such as an SJP meeting at CCNY, can such group exclude whomever they want to?

  11. the brooklyn college president should be removed on the basis of being an imbecile. the low IQ jew hater "in charge of student affairs" should be fired immediately. a civil rights lawsuit would be in order. as would lawsuits filed against individuals and their personal property. how dare our tax dollars be used for this crap.

  12. Jon Erk says:

    Was taped by the Palestinian students. Audience was explicitly told they'd be removed if they taped anything.

  13. Jon Erk says:

    Was taped by the Palestinian students. Audience was explicitly told they'd be removed if they taped anything.

  14. Roy Ben-Moshe says:

    I was there, and two orthodox Jews in front of me were being disruptive just under the threshold necessary for being kicked out. Seriously, if you're planning on disrupting an event, then disrupt it with a political message, and if you're planning on sitting and listening, then just sit down and be quiet. You can't have it both ways – be disruptive at a panel discussion and then expect to maintain your seat.

  15. We must find a way to help our children deal with the hateful, violent culture that Moslem student and professors are bringing to American campuses or our children will not feel safe in public colleges anymore. The same way that Non-Moslems don't feel safe in Islamic lands.
    In Islamic countries like Syria and Iraq, these Moslems are killing and torturing each other, even children, in most savage ways and for them showing hatred toward "others", even when these "others" are Moslems is a normal way of life and a normal cultural mode.
    Maybe the next event in Brooklyn college should be called:" Lets learn how to deal with the hateful, violent culture that Moslem students are bringing with them to our Campuses". Intellectuals with the right experience, specially psychologists must be invited to help us deal with this issue. We don't want Brooklyn to change into an Islamic State.

  16. Sounds like what happened at Rutgers. I WAS THERE. RABBI ROSENBERG WHY IS NO ONE MAKING THE COMPARISON? ARE students afraid?

    Sounds like what happened at Rutgers. I WAS THERE. RABBI ROSENBERG WHY IS NO ONE MAKING THE COMPARISON? ARE students afraid?

  17. Rutgers told to crack down on anti-Semitic threats.

    http://www.wnd.com/2011/07/319805/

    Jul 8, 2011… Rutgers campus The The Zionist Organization of America is demanding that Rutgers University address an anti-Semitic atmosphere it has…

  18. Subject: sounds like rutgers. I WAS THERE. RABBI ROSENBERG WHY IS NO ONE MAKING THE COMPARISON? are students afraid?

  19. I think, that it is not easy to say better. Such authors of legal articles are welcomed on Attorney Online. Moreover, Attorney Directory was created to gather together contacts of the best US lawyers to categories like this rubric of Florida civil lawyers http://attorney-online.info/dir/civil/florida/33 It is free and lawyers shouldn’t pay to submit their contacts to this directory.

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