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Civil Rights Violations, Lies & Audiotape: B’klyn College Still in Spotlight

We are now in a situation where there seems to be no two ways about it - someone is lying, maybe several people. And school officials, both administration representatives as well as faculty members were on the scene - so if the students were unfairly ejected, an apology will hardly suffice.

Jews Who Were Allowed in to Brooklyn College BDS Event

Jews Who Were Allowed in to Brooklyn College BDS Event
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Personally, I came to the event to hear and attempt to understand the BDS movement. Their goals, their aspirations, what would be a success in their eyes. Not to agree, disagree, or debate them. But to understand what they had to say and what they might have to say to their critics (which is what the info sheets had: past criticisms of the movement’s actions and consequences). I came to ask questions and try to understand an opposing viewpoint. There was another student who contacted me who also sat directly in front of me (as can be seen in one of the photos in SJP Brooklyn College’s facebook page album) and he actually needed me to explain to him how we disrupted and why we were kicked out because he didn’t hear any disruption at all.

You’re right, there was a lot of tension in the room, but I fail to see how my behavior, sitting, listening, and taking notes, or even my brother’s whispering to me about an aspect of the info sheet he didn’t understand, can be construed as behavior that would make someone feel “incredibly uncomfortable.”

A CUNY INVESTIGATION INTO THE ALLEGATIONS OF WRONGDOING The Chancellor of City University of New York, Matthew Goldstein, issued a statement on February 11.  He wrote that because there were claims that students were wrongfully ejected, at the request of BC president Gould, he asked CUNY’s General Counsel and Vice President for Legal Affairs Frederick P. Schaffer, to investigate the allegations of wrongdoing.  Schaffer will be working with an unnamed “independent investigator.”

It is hard to imagine that there would have been any investigation, given official school statement immediately after the students were expelled from the event, had an audiotape of the event had not been made, and then revealed by a protected source.

OPEN ISSUES Obviously the investigation should include interviews with all those officials present at the Feb 7 event, including all the “faculty marshalls” who were present.

In addition, photos from the BDS event show that someone was using a videotape recorder, with a microphone.  That recording contains essential evidence.  It is likely that other audiotapes, at least, were made at the event as well and they should be examined for evidence of any disruptions.

Videocamera taping Brooklyn College BDS event, Feb. 7, 2013

Videocamera taping Brooklyn College BDS event, Feb. 7, 2013

Goldberg and the other Expelled Four had documentary evidence that they were confirmed registrants for the event.  How were their names removed from the lists of those who were to be permitted entry at the event?

Part of the evidence adduced by BDS supporters is that there were Jewish people who were not kicked out of the event, therefore the removal of the Expelled Four was not discriminatory.  Several people have said that there were “Orthodox rabbis in the room who asked questions,” as evidence.  Were there “Orthodox rabbis” present who were not members of the notoriously anti-Israel Naturei Karta?  How did those two members of Naturei Karta obtain admission when they are neither members of the Brooklyn College community nor SJP members?  Did someone invite them?  If so, who?  And why?

One New York Jewish Community Relations Council official who was involved with protests outside the event building and who worked with the Hillel students, Hindy Poupko, said she was aware of only one student who was able to ask a critical question during the event.  The response to that student by Judith Butler was, “you obviously didn’t listen to my speech,” and everyone laughed.  According to Poupko, “it didn’t seem like a place open to dialogue or dissenting opinions.”

Goldberg was quoted in a Brooklyn College newspaper article as saying prior to the event that she opposed the co-sponsorship by the political science department because, “If I’m in a political science class, I’d feel afraid to open up and that impacts my freedom of speech.”  Was that why her name was removed from the list of people who should be admitted to the event?

Goldberg also said she had run-ins with SJP at another event in the fall, at which Guzman told her to “shut up.” She thinks she was blacklisted from the event after a confrontation during the Students for Justice in Palestine’s screening of “The People and the Olive” in November of last year, where Guzman claimed she “tried to disrupt and instigate one of our events last semester.”

About the Author: Lori Lowenthal Marcus is the US correspondent for The Jewish Press. She is a recovered lawyer who previously practiced First Amendment law and taught in Philadelphia-area graduate and law schools. You can reach her by email: Lori@JewishPressOnline.com


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20 Responses to “Civil Rights Violations, Lies & Audiotape: B’klyn College Still in Spotlight”

  1. Rav Goy says:

    maybe its time to boycott brooklyn college.

  2. Phil Schiff says:

    Time for a few civil rights suits.

  3. SOUNDS LIKE RUTGERS, BUT WE SPOKE OUT. I WAS THERE.

  4. Johnny Simson says:

    May be its time for Jewish donosr to stop donating to this collage? I am sure the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia will be happy to donate to this collage.

  5. Lori, we are dealing with a situation where the protection, like an etrog, of Islamic dictates is sacrosanct. So much so, that truth and justice is nowhere to be found, particularly within leftist academia.
    Want more heartburn? Take a peek – http://adinakutnicki.com/2013/02/03/the-nexus-between-western-academia-the-international-solidarity-movement-ism-leftist-jews-commentary-by-adina-kutnicki/.
    This jihadi circus is under the umbrella/terror hydra of the ISM, regardless of "this name or that name".
    Time to make them pay – leftist academia and their Islamic counterparts!
    Adina Kutnicki, Israel – http://adinakutnicki.com/about/.

  6. Nanette CohenRayman says:

    even IF the Jewish students were being disruptive, I say: RIGHT ON! so when would be the approprate time to be disruptive? when BDS/HAMAS carries out the real agenda? kill the Jews. Should Jews wait until they did in Nazi Germany? NO! Now is the time to BE disruptive.

  7. Alan Kardon says:

    First, Was this incident taped? If not, why? That will show who is at fault.
    Secondly, this is a public institution funded by tax dollars. It cannot by law descriminate against any person wishing to attend. Lets hold the school adminstration accountable for allowing this to happen on public property.

  8. I attended Midwood High School down the street from B'klyn College in the late 50's and even then it was a foundation for radicalism. Why the surprise now?

  9. Lori, the ACLU is a gang of hypocrites from way back. Ramsey [Ramzi] Clark, LBJ's attorney general, was head of the ACLU back when Khomeini took over Iran. Clark was very favorable towards Khomeini's new regime. He even blamed the American Jews from keeping the US from welcoming and recognizing Khomeini. He was annoyed then with how the American Jews were using their freedom of speech. A Clark ally, the Nation magazine, even claimed that those writing the new Iranian constitution had "impecabble civil libertarian credentials."
    Don't expect any help from the ACLU. They are fake civil libertarians.

  10. spelling error: spell the word "impeccable".

    By the way, if a private group is holding a meeting on public property, such as an SJP meeting at CCNY, can such group exclude whomever they want to?

  11. the brooklyn college president should be removed on the basis of being an imbecile. the low IQ jew hater "in charge of student affairs" should be fired immediately. a civil rights lawsuit would be in order. as would lawsuits filed against individuals and their personal property. how dare our tax dollars be used for this crap.

  12. Jon Erk says:

    Was taped by the Palestinian students. Audience was explicitly told they'd be removed if they taped anything.

  13. Jon Erk says:

    Was taped by the Palestinian students. Audience was explicitly told they'd be removed if they taped anything.

  14. Roy Ben-Moshe says:

    I was there, and two orthodox Jews in front of me were being disruptive just under the threshold necessary for being kicked out. Seriously, if you're planning on disrupting an event, then disrupt it with a political message, and if you're planning on sitting and listening, then just sit down and be quiet. You can't have it both ways – be disruptive at a panel discussion and then expect to maintain your seat.

  15. We must find a way to help our children deal with the hateful, violent culture that Moslem student and professors are bringing to American campuses or our children will not feel safe in public colleges anymore. The same way that Non-Moslems don't feel safe in Islamic lands.
    In Islamic countries like Syria and Iraq, these Moslems are killing and torturing each other, even children, in most savage ways and for them showing hatred toward "others", even when these "others" are Moslems is a normal way of life and a normal cultural mode.
    Maybe the next event in Brooklyn college should be called:" Lets learn how to deal with the hateful, violent culture that Moslem students are bringing with them to our Campuses". Intellectuals with the right experience, specially psychologists must be invited to help us deal with this issue. We don't want Brooklyn to change into an Islamic State.

  16. Sounds like what happened at Rutgers. I WAS THERE. RABBI ROSENBERG WHY IS NO ONE MAKING THE COMPARISON? ARE students afraid?

    Sounds like what happened at Rutgers. I WAS THERE. RABBI ROSENBERG WHY IS NO ONE MAKING THE COMPARISON? ARE students afraid?

  17. Rutgers told to crack down on anti-Semitic threats.

    http://www.wnd.com/2011/07/319805/

    Jul 8, 2011… Rutgers campus The The Zionist Organization of America is demanding that Rutgers University address an anti-Semitic atmosphere it has…

  18. Subject: sounds like rutgers. I WAS THERE. RABBI ROSENBERG WHY IS NO ONE MAKING THE COMPARISON? are students afraid?

  19. I think, that it is not easy to say better. Such authors of legal articles are welcomed on Attorney Online. Moreover, Attorney Directory was created to gather together contacts of the best US lawyers to categories like this rubric of Florida civil lawyers http://attorney-online.info/dir/civil/florida/33 It is free and lawyers shouldn’t pay to submit their contacts to this directory.

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