Yesterday a bus in Tel Aviv blew up injuring as many as 16 innocent people by one count. Israeli sources are saying that it was a via a bomb planted on the bus. What was Hamas reaction? Approval. What was the reaction in the Arab Street? Great joy… as Palestinian mothers handed out candy to children. This is the people we are trying to make peace with.
I am so tired of the apologists who say that this is not the mainstream. I have yet to see that mainstream. Where is the Arab man in the street that has condemned it… or expressed sorrow for the innocent victims and their families? I have not seen a single Arab man in the street condemn it. This is the kind of enemy we are fighting. And I am tired of hearing that the joy expressed at the bombing of a bus full of Jews is only from a small minority.
I haven’t heard one word from any one of them expressing sorrow for that bus bombing.
That said, I still believe that the average Palestinian probably would just as soon make peace with us. Not because they love us. But because they are just plain sick and tired of war. They want to simply get on with their lives.
That they still hate us is abundantly clear and is not going to change. As long as Israel has to take the kind of defensive measures being taken in Gaza, their anger will only increase. And the Hamas leadership in Gaza capitalizes on that anger to perpetuate the status quo… refusing to make any kind of peace with Israel.
I didn’t want to see an Israeli ground invasion. I’m sure that is true for every single Jew in the world that cares about the shedding of Jewish blood. Including Israel’s Prime Minster Netanyahu. But we all wanted to see a peaceful resolution to the current conflict.
The problem is – and I’m sure that this is part of the Prime Mister’s calculus – if we don’t ‘finish the job’ we will have gained very little. Hamas will replenish their arms – probably with even more deadly weapons supplied by Iran and smuggled in to Gaza. They will eventually resume sending rockets into Israel.
These people will not stop until they get what they want: A Jew-free Palestine. That is clearly their objective. What Israel is doing now is just getting them angrier and more determined than ever to reach that goal. All this bombing has just ‘hardened their hearts.’
Some would rhetorically ask, “Was it worth it?” “Did we really gain anything here but more hatred?” Perhaps we shouldn’t have done this. Maybe we should have just left things alone. After all their rockets rarely if ever killed anyone.
The problem is that no country should stand by and allow a hostile neighbor to keep firing rockets at them. One of them may eventually hit a dense population center and kill many people. Even Israel’s ‘Iron Dome Defense System’ is not fool proof. 10 to 20% of those rockets get through the system. And we now know their range includes both Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.
Israel had no choice but to do something. Operation “Pillar of Cloud” which is what the current military offensive is called had to be implemented.
What about the fact that we will just make them angrier by all of this? I don’t think it really makes any difference at this point – if it ever did. Islamists like Hamas take great pride and joy and killing Jews. Nothing will change that. Getting them angrier does make make their resolve greater. But their hostile actions against us won’t increase any more that it is now. I think they are at maximum force – to the best of their ability.
No one wanted a ground war, but the problem is, we can’t leave things as they are now. My own thoughts on the matter is that Israel should have continued bombing hard targets in Gaza. They should have continued to try and avoid civilian casualties as much as possible – but basically bomb Gaza into the stone age. Destroy their infrastructure. Bring Hamas to their knees. Let the Palestinian residents of Gaza see what their leaders policies have wrought. That will certainly be on their minds after such devastation, despite blaming Israel for actually doing it.
Will this make them even angrier at Israel? Of course it will. To that I say, “So what?!”
Let them be mad… they are mad at us anyway. Enough to keep attacking us over the years with suicide bombers, rocket fire, and all manner of terrorism. They have been relentless because of their anger with us. The anger resulting with the kind of devastation I am talking about won’t change that. They will hate us to the max. But they will no longer be able to do anything about it. They will be destroyed as a nation, albeit very much alive as individuals.
I envision a sort of surrender to the victors ala Japan to the U.S. at the end of WWII. Israel will dictate the terms of surrender. The terms being that they stop trying to kill us and clean out Palestine of Jews. Let us live. And we will let you live. That’s the deal.
And then Israel helps them build a nation. One that requires peaceful relations with us. We can do it in the same way the Marshall Plan did it with Germany. It was rebuilt as a nation with no military.
Friday, November 16th, 2012
The Spokesman for the IDF is constantly announcing that the Israeli Air Force is doing pinpoint bombing in order to protect innocent civilians. Prime Minister Netanyahu also says that Israel deserves praise for the care it is taking not to injure innocent civilians.
Apparently to them, these “civilians” are “innocent” even though they house grad rocket launchers in their homes, and it’s their fathers and brothers who are doing the firing. In the meantime, we are bombing evacuated warehouses and underground tunnels, and the Gazans keep firing away, not at all worried about being hit. In the 200 plus forays our fighter bombers have made over Gaza, maybe 20 people have been killed and a couple dozen wounded. Peanuts. So the innocent civilians keep shooting away.
Whose approval are we trying to win? Has America or the United Nations applauded us on our great sense of morality and fair play? Has France or Russia? You’ve got to be kidding. In their heart of hearts, they think that we’re jerks. No one fights a war this way.
Calculations of the death-toll from the Anglo-American bombing of Dresden in February 1945 have varied widely. Figures have ranged from 35,000 through 100,000 and more. The German city of Dresden had a population of three quarters of a million people, plus hordes of anonymous refugees from the Eastern Front. It was destroyed in one night by Allied aircraft armed with more than 4,500 tons of high explosive and incendiary bombs. The devastated area amounted to around 13 square miles – not much different from the size of Gaza. The victims weren’t Nazi soldiers but innocent civilians. No one said a word.
Toward the end of World War 2, following a firebombing campaign that destroyed many Japanese cities, the Allies prepared for a costly invasion of Japan, knowing that thousands of American soldiers would be killed. To avoid this, American airmen dropped the “Little Boy” atomic bomb on the city of Hiroshima on 6 August 1945, immediately killing 66,000 innocent civilians. Then they dropped the “Fat Man” bomb over Nagasaki on 9 August, killing 40,000. Six days later, the Japanese surrendered without the loss of one American soldier in Japan. Within the first two to four months of the bombings, the acute effects killed 90,000–166,000 people in Hiroshima and 60,000–80,000 in Nagasaki. Once again, no one said a word.
If you ask me, it’s time we took a lesson from the goyim. Before even one of our soldiers steps foot in Gaza, instead of bombing vacant warehouses and tunnels, we should level a few eight-story buildings filled with “innocent civilians.” That will stops the rockets, believe me.
Wednesday, October 31st, 2012
During the early morning hours on Monday, residents of Cairo, Alexandria, Damietta and other areas reported in panic that they were hearing explosions and planes flying at low latitude over heavily populated areas, reports Yoni Alper’s Terror Watch. It turned out to be a surprise exercise carried out by the Egyptian Air Force, to test the aerial defense system in various regions, in the wake of the alleged Israeli attack on the Yarmouk factory complex, which produced weapons for the Sudanese army and Iranian rebel guards, in the Khartoum area.
The alleged Israeli attack on the factory apparently caused damage to containers of advanced weapons systems to be smuggled to Iranian terror organizations in Gaza or other Iranian-backed groups. On their alleged bombing mission, the Israeli planes, using advanced electronic devices, succeeded in avoiding detection by the Egyptian radar system while flying over the Red Sea.
On Monday, the Egyptian army put out an announcement saying it was conducting a surprise exercise where, among other things, planes broke the sound barrier, to test the efficiency of the aerial defense forces in light of current developments and threats to the area.
Although the Egyptian army referred to it as an exercise, Egyptian sources on social media networks denied this and claimed that Israeli Air Force planes infiltrated Egyptian air space. They claimed that Israel deployed stealth F-35 fighter aircraft. They further claimed that conducting a large scale exercise during the holiday period (Feast of the Sacrifice) was unusual and that the army’s announcement sounded very strange.
The Egyptian army denied reports on the matter and referred to them as lies. An army spokesman further explained that according to an agreement with the United States, the IDF would not make use of the F-35 aircraft before 2016.
Incidentally, there already have been claims regarding Israel’s utilizing Egyptian air space for attacks on the Gaza strip during the IDF’s Operation Cast Lead in late 2008 and early 2009, under former President Hosni Mubarak.
The Lockheed Martin F-35 is a single-seat, single-engine, multi-role fighter that can perform ground attack, reconnaissance, and air defense missions with some stealth capability.