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Saudi Blogger Faces Jail and 600 Lashes For Insulting Islam

Wednesday, July 31st, 2013

Only 600 lashes? The libs will say that is progress. The question is, how many lashes can any human being withstand? I think beheadng is more …. humane.

“We believe that when public speech is deemed offensive, be it via social media or any other means, the issue is best addressed through open-dialogue and honest debate,” said US State Department spokeswoman

As for the State department’s hollow remarks, I submit that the State Department should cease meeting with the OIC in Washington in order to impose restrictions on speech in accordance with the blasphemy laws under the sharia. I submit that the State Department should withdraw the Secretary of State’s remarks. I submit that the Department of Justice should withdraw its vow to criminalize postings on social media that offend Muslims. I submit that Obama should cease blaming youtube and freedom of expression for murderous attacks on Americans in Benghazi and beyond. I submit that Obama should stop championing the adoption of anti-free speech resolution by the UN.

“Saudi Blogger Raif Badawi Faces Jail and 600 Lashes For Insulting Islam” IBTimes, July 31, 2013

An international outcry was triggered by a Saudi Arabian court that handed a seven-year jail and 600 lashes sentence to the editor of a liberal website for violating Islamic values.

Raif Badawi has been in detention since 2012, after being arrested on cyber-crime charges related to Free Saudi, the website he founded which hosted discussions on religion in the ultraconservative Islamic kingdom.

The US and France expressed deep concerns at the punishment also slammed by human rights groups.

“We believe that when public speech is deemed offensive, be it via social media or any other means, the issue is best addressed through open-dialogue and honest debate,” said US State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki.logger makes a mockery of Saudi Arabia’s claims that it supports reform and religious dialogue,” said Nadim Houry, deputy Middle East director at Human Rights Watch.

“A man who wanted to discuss religion has already been locked up for a year and now faces 600 lashes and seven years in prison.”

Judges at Jeddah criminal court reportedly dropped the heaviest charge of apostasy - which carries an automatic death sentence – after Badawi, gave assurances he was a Muslim.

“The judge asked Raif, ‘Are you a Muslim?’ and he said ‘Yes, and I don’t accept anyone to cast doubt on (my belief)’,” Badawi’s wife, who moved abroad in 2012 with her children, tweeted.

However, the court found Badawi guilty of insulting Islam and ordered the closure of the website, Al-Watan newspaper reported.

Judges also gave Badawi an additional three months in jail for disobeying his father, a crime in Saudi Arabia. The two allegedly had numerous public confrontations over the years.

Part of prosecutors’ evidence consisted in postings by Badawi and anonymous members of his site critical of senior Saudi religious figures, HRW reported.

Badawi’s troubles with the authorities started shortly after he started Free Saudi in 2008.

He was forced to leave the country in May that year, after authorities charged him with “setting up an electronic site that insults Islam”.

As the charges were dropped he returned to his homeland but continued his online activity, HRW said.

In March 2012 he was designated as an “unbeliever and apostate” by a well-known cleric Sheikh Abdulrahman al-Barrak.

Al-Barrak reportedly claimed Badawi was guilty of saying “that Muslims, Jews, Christians, and atheists are all equal”.

In accordance with a strict interpretation of Islamic law, Saudi courts implement a series of corporal punishments, of which flogging is considered the most lenient. 

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Should IDF Soldiers Receive Lashes as Punishment for Forced Draft?

Sunday, June 2nd, 2013

Well… if this doesn’t take the cake, I don’t know what does.  Perhaps the next step will be putting pressure cooker bombs in army barracks. From Arutz Sheva:

Posters appeared in Jerusalem on Thursday claiming that for every yeshiva student who is drafted into the IDF, a group calling itself “The Underground Organization Against the Draft of Hareidim in the Land of Israel” would attack an IDF soldier.

 Addressing the “military authorities,” the poster says that “you will realize that you made a mistake” in authorizing jail time for hareidi yeshiva students who refuse to join the IDF. “For every hareidi youth forced to go to prison over his refusal to join the army, the hareidim will take revenge.”

 The poster says that the “revenge” would come in the form of lashes. “For every hareidi youth imprisoned, and for each day he is imprisoned, an IDF soldier will receive 18 lashes with a whip. You have been warned,” the poster adds.

So much for calling comparisons to the Tsarneav brothers ‘over the top’. I don’t think the comparisons are that far off.

Of course there is absolutely no way in the world that this group has any support from even the most right wing rabbis of the Eida HaCharedis. I fully expect a strong condemnation of it. I would in fact be surprised if it were not forthcoming. The people behind this are truly the dregs of their society… of any society.

But as I constantly say, their motivation comes from the very same rabbinic leaders who will no doubt condemn them. What do you expect from people who constantly hear from their rabbis and newspapers – the worst possible epithets and curses about the government… often calling them Nazis and spitting on government officials… sometimes even the Charedi ones! It was not that long ago where mainstream Meah Shearim type Jews wore Holocaust prison clothing in a public protest against the government. The hateful rhetoric is there… all in place for these people to draw their inspiration from.

That said, I’m sure this is an empty threat. No one is going to get lashes. It is just a scare tactic. Or is it?If there are people who in ‘the name of the Torah’ can throw acid at joggers – or torch clothing stores… or burn dumpsters creating toxic fumes, or beat up women who sit in the wrong part of a bus… or beat a store owner to a pulp because he sold an electronic device that was video capable… can kidnapping a soldier and giving him lashes be all that unexpected?

God forbid that this should ever happen. Unfortunately it would not surprise me if it did. Why wouldn’t it? If you are constantly being told that the country you live in is an evil empire, why would you not do everything in your power to eradicate it? The IDF soldier is after all the enemy!

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