web analytics
July 4, 2015 / 17 Tammuz, 5775
At a Glance
News & Views
Sponsored Post


Too ‘Hot’ for Comfort, Temp Sues Orthodox Bosses in Failure to Communicate


Lauren Odes with her celebrity lawyer Gloria Allred at Monday's press conference.

Lauren Odes with her celebrity lawyer Gloria Allred at Monday's press conference.
Photo Credit: Screen shot

If the Asifah last Sunday had touched on that – empowering Haredi men to spell out that which disturbs them about another person’s attire or behavior or even physical attributes, directly and honestly, without forgetting the other’s image of God – it would have been a smashing, historic success.

I fear that the opposite was true, and the Asifah was about getting even more insular and secluded culturally.

About the Author: Yori Yanover has been a working journalist since age 17, before he enlisted and worked for Ba'Machane Nachal. Since then he has worked for Israel Shelanu, the US supplement of Yedioth, JCN18.com, USAJewish.com, Lubavitch News Service, Arutz 7 (as DJ on the high seas), and the Grand Street News. He has published Dancing and Crying, a colorful and intimate portrait of the last two years in the life of the late Lubavitch Rebbe, (in Hebrew), and two fun books in English: The Cabalist's Daughter: A Novel of Practical Messianic Redemption, and How Would God REALLY Vote.

The author's opinion does not necessarily reflect the opinion of The Jewish Press.

If you don't see your comment after publishing it, refresh the page.

Our comments section is intended for meaningful responses and debates in a civilized manner. We ask that you respect the fact that we are a religious Jewish website and avoid inappropriate language at all cost.

If you promote any foreign religions, gods or messiahs, lies about Israel, anti-Semitism, or advocate violence (except against terrorists), your permission to comment may be revoked.

16 Responses to “Too ‘Hot’ for Comfort, Temp Sues Orthodox Bosses in Failure to Communicate”

  1. Muriel Coudurier-Curveur says:

    I am afraid that, the attraction a man may feel for a woman, is in no way the responsibility of the woman. It is the man's responsibility to train himself to resist temptation. The attractiveness of women has so far been used as an excuse for everything from marrying them before their 12th birthday, to raping them, denying them the right to vote, drive, read, work, etc., or forcing them to hide from scalp to toes under a moving tent. Enough already. Men, control yourselves and stop putting the responsibility for your lust on us. When come the time to face Hashem, I doubt you will find much indulgence for your twisted thinking and forcing the companion he gave you into servitude.

  2. Yori Yanover says:

    Dear Muriel,

    With all due respect, your advice is "Just say no," in the immortal words of Nancy Reagan. But as forceful and righteous as that sentiment may be, it has not proven to be effective in curbin human vice.

    However, honesty about the issue can go a long way. Where control may be out of reach, admitting that control is not the way to go has yielded many a success story regarding a plethora of undesired behavior.

  3. Muriel Coudurier-Curveur says:

    It's not that simple. As a daughter, a sister, a wife, the mother of 4 sons (now grown), and an employee for many years, I've observed that the large majority of men are perfectly able to accept when a woman is off limit and do not suffer any trauma from resisting temptation. Self-control may be too hard for some men, but it doesn't give them the right to saddle women with the responsibility for their lust, nor does it allow men to exile women from society. If a man is unable to control his lust, then he should remove himself from the temptation and telecommute from home. In the case of this employer however, the solution was even simpler: he could have provided his employees with a decent uniform.

  4. Bub Gold says:

    Muriel spouts hypocritical narishkeit. The furthest extension of her position is that women may worked naked, or with pasties and a string bikini, with impunity. B.S. straight from the playbook of N.O.W. and other feminazis. It is a simple, incontrovertible fact of nature that women – their shape, their appearance – are highly, distractedly sexually attractive to normal men. Women – including con-artist deniers like Muriel – are well aware of this. As the article notes, what about the other workers' rights?!

  5. A dress code policy is perfectly legitimate for a business to enforce. Their mistake is probably in not officially publishing one.

    Typical small business boo-boo.

  6. No. A dress code that has nothing to do with health or safety on an employee who works in a warehouse is not legitimate. This company does not require uniforms. Saying someone is dressing too "hot" is not legal and she will rightly win the case.

  7. Ken Sperber says:

    I am an owner in a small business. The overwhelming majority of our employees are women in their 30s and 40s. There is nothing "typical" about this "mistake." It doesn't take a Ph.D. in law to recognize the hazzards here. We have a dress code. It absolutely requires professional attire–not merely for "health" but also for professionalism. Sexy/revealing is not cool. If it becomes a problem, feedback is given *and documented meticulously." A clear file of communication must be created before firing someone or we will be sued. And we know it. Because it's obvious.

  8. Yosef Chiger says:

    I just wonder why so-called Super Frum Jews are making lingerie? Especially the kinds of lingerie I heard they make.

  9. Is the law going to require that every employer — no matter how big or small — publish a dress code?

    If I were to ask my cleaning lady or nanny to dress or not dress in a certain way when she's working in my house, am I to expect Gloria Allred knocking on my door? Am I required to publish a "dress code" and post it on my front door?

  10. No, but you'll suffer the consequences if you don't. This is what a litigious society creates. There's no personal responsibility.

    I would love to see Allred walk into court wearing some hoochie outfit, or a pair of sweats and a workout top, and see if the judge doesn't throw her ass into a cell for contempt.

    Better yet, the DEFENSE lawyer should, and say, "if you hold me in contempt, you've rendered the verdict on this case."

    David Berenthal, thoughts?

  11. Ken Sperber says:

    Daniel Melman Yes. If you want to avoid (and/or successfully defend) wrongful termination and/or sexual harrassment suits, an ounce of risk management in the first place goes a long way.

  12. Lisa Geller says:

    Agree with Marc (at least on this one!). They can enforce a dress code, if they have one. Their problem is that this seems to have been handled as a one-off situation. Further, even when they complained, it does not sound as if they were specific enough about how she should dress. Not everyone has the same interpretation of "modest". They can't criticize her body shape, but they can have a universally-applied dress code that specifies things like sleeve length, collar height, skirt length, etc. It isn't hard, my kids' elementary schools even publish those guidelines in their student handbook.

  13. Ken Sperber says:

    I actually also agree–they can absolutely have a consistently applied and clearly communicated dress code.

  14. Yarden Frankl you're absolutely wrong.

  15. Gideon Jones says:

    This has nothing to do with men not being able to control themselves. Sheesh, we aren't muslims. (that is their reasoning). It has to do with men being around immodesty. They can control themselves fine, but such is not the place for a Holy person.

    But that being said, this issue is about the rights of a business owner. The woman has no right to dress however she wants in someone else's business. I have no idea what these guys were thinking when they hired her, but she has no right to sue.

    If she had any class, (she worked there what? A few months at most? maybe less?) she would have left without issues.

    This isn't about her rights, or women's rights, or discrimination it is about MONEY!

  16. Muriel Coudurier-Curveur says:

    exactly. With a coherent dress code, there would have been no problem

Comments are closed.

Current Top Story
UN Human Rights Council
UN HRC Condemns Israel (But Not Hamas) for War Crimes
Latest News Stories
UN Human Rights Council

US alone voted no on UNHRC Resolution condemning only Israel for wrongdoing in last summer’s conflict.

Rocket that hit a field in the Eshkol region on July 3, 2015

Sinai terrorists expanded their range of attack Friday, aiming rocket fire at southern Israel as well.

breaking the silence

5:21 PM The rocket landed in a field in the Eshkol region. Apparently from Sinai. 5:06 PM Channel 1 reports that citizens say they saw the rocket fly over from Sinai. 4:49 PM IDF Spox says they believe only 1 rocket was launched. The IDF is examining if the rocket was launched from the Sinai. […]

US Secy of State John Kerry and Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif shake hands.

Iran is not budging in nuclear talks on its refusal to allow spot inspections of military sites.

Nothing like a Kosher frank for the 4th of July, even if this year, you have to cook it before Shabbat.

Nothing quite like Hamas terrorist supporters on the Temple Mount openly waving their flags..

Machsom Watch women came to harass IDF soldiers in Hebron but embarrassed themselves instead.

A Palestinian Authority Arab was shot and killed after he attacked an Israeli army commander driving in near Jerusalem.

The US Mennonite church votes to table an anti-Israel BDS resolution for two years.

Israel has tightened security and is on high alert for Friday Ramadan prayers.

An Arab man was caught by Border Police on his way to committing a terror attack in Hebron on Thursday night

PM Binyamin Netanyahu warns that Israel now faces a double threat: from ISIS and Iran.

The closing of the highway, comes after Israeli security officials voiced concern that Waliyat Sinai, the ISIS-affiliated terror group responsible for the attacks, may be planning to strike Israel as well.

Jerusalem’s Light Rail was attacked at least twice Thursday by Arabs hurling rocks in Shuafat — again.

Neo-Nazis who planned to march July 4 through London’s Golders Green section must now relocate to the city center.

Hamas apparently aided ISIS-linked Sinai terrorists in attacking Egyptian Army soldiers.

More Articles from Yori Yanover
rain ATM

A Jerusalem woman is trying to hold on to her umbrella while withdrawing some cash at a Meah Shearim ATM, Sunday, March 9, 2014. The rain appeared out of the blue (which is how rain should), after a warm week that started to feel like summer. Well, it don’t feel like summer no more. Last […]

Rabbi Meir Mazuz (seen visiting a synagogue in Crown Heights, Brooklyn) declared in a public Internet psak that it is legal for a Jew to go up to temple Mount.

Needless to say, Shas, the Haredi Sefardi party, is not happy.

“The only difference between this world and the time of Meshiach is our bondage to the gentile kingdoms.”

Here’s the Israeli Navy boat INS Hanit arriving in Eilat on Saturday, March 8, 2014, after capturing the Klos C, which was carrying dozens of advanced Iranian-supplied weapons made in Syria and intended for Palestinian guerrillas in the Gaza Strip. Here’s Israeli Navy Commander Vice Admiral Ram Rotberg speaking with the INS Hanit soldiers in […]

Pat Condell has a new video out, so, sit back, have fun. By the way, Message to Offended Muslims should not be confused with Message to Off Handed Muslims. Also, I’d love to hear what he has to say about Haredim.

The description that came with this picture says: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu speaks with American actor Bette Midler during an event at the house of Hollywood producer Arnon Milchan in Hollywood on March 6, 2014. But Bette Midler is not really an actor, she’s a singer who made movies for the LGBT community and […]

We will shut them up in the campuses, we will shut them up in the high schools, we will shut them up at the 92nd St. Y.

An Israeli female soldier (because they’re better at removing babies from their homes) evacuates a baby from a settlement in Judea and Samaria some time in the recent past. I’m thinking, if the baby was angry enough, couldn’t he evacuate in return, right there in her arms? Imagine the same picture, except with a settler […]

Printed from: http://www.jewishpress.com/news/yoris-daily-news-clips/too-hot-for-comfort-temp-sues-orthodox-bosses-in-failure-to-communicate/2012/05/22/

Scan this QR code to visit this page online: