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Q & A: A Matter Of Custom? (Conclusion)


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QUESTION: We are a happy newly married couple who have a few disagreements concerning the upcoming holidays. My wife insists that on Erev Yom Kippur there is no need to eat more than one meal – right before the fast. She also insists that there is no need for her to eat in the sukka on Sukkot, while my custom is for a woman to do so. Who is correct?
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ANSWER: We began our discussion last week with the Biblical source for the mitzva of Yom Kippur. Two verses in the Torah were mentioned, Leviticus 23:27 and 23:32. Based on these verses, the Gemara (Berachot 8b) explains that we are to feast on the ninth of Tishrei and fast on the tenth. One who does so is considered to have fasted on both days. We referred to R. Shlomo Kluger’s commentary (Chochmat Shlomo, Orach Chayyim 604) as to whether women are obligated to eat on Erev Yom Kippur (women are usually exempt from mitzvot such as this one – positive commands that are time-dependent). R. Kluger’s reference to Sukka 28b seems to indicate that women are not obligated in the feast but are obligated to fast. However, his conclusion was that a hekesh, an analogous comparison, is used. Just as women are obligated in the fast, so they are obligated in the feast, similar to the rule that women are included in the mitzva to eat matza because they are included in the mitzva to abstain from chametz on Pesach.We conclude our discussion this week with a further look at women’s requirement to eat on Erev Yom Kippur in anticipation of the fast, as well as the customs women follow for eating in the sukka on Sukkot.

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The Gaon R. Akiva Eger discussed a similar issue in response to a scholar whose daughter was quite ill, so much so that all food was harmful to her, and for many weeks she had been living on medicines. The question was whether she was required, according to Halacha, to eat on Erev Yom Kippur (Responsa by R. Akiva Eger, 16).

R. Eger answered, “Chalila vechalila – Heaven forbid that she should eat. And since you write that she is learned, very observant and G-d-fearing, she will probably, though very reluctantly, listen to you.

“My advice is that you should take one or two individuals along with you to tell her that this letter of mine contains the following ruling in her regard: she is not allowed to eat anything more on this day than she would on any other day.”

He continues, “I am a bit confused as to whether women [who are not ill] are required to eat on Erev Yom Kippur. [Obviously they will eat in preparation for the fast of Yom Kippur, but are they actually required to eat?] Perhaps they are relieved from this mitzva as in all other situations of mitzvat aseh sheha’zeman grama – a time-driven mitzva.'”

“Note as well that the Kesef Mishneh commenting on (Hilchot Shevitat Asor 3:9) ponders whether the exegesis of ‘Ha’ochel veshoteh ba’teshi’i … – He who eats and drinks on the ninth is considered as if he fasted both on the ninth and on the tenth,’ is a solid, steadfast exegesis or whether it is only an asmachta – a supporting source – and thus it would only be a mitzva that is time-driven and women are relieved of that requirement. Or perhaps this is not so, since the verse states ‘On the ninth day of the month in the evening,’ to teach us that it is considered as if they fasted on both the ninth and the tenth, and whoever is required to fast, women included, are also required to feast (eat) on Erev Yom Kippur.”

Thus we see that even according to R. Akiva Eger it would seem that we might find reason to require a healthy woman to eat on Erev Yom Kippur due to doubt about the requirement, and he is lenient only in the case of a woman who is seriously ill.

Regarding the requirement for women to eat in the sukka, the Mechaber (Orach Chayyim 640), based on the mishna in Tractate Sukka 28b, rules that women are not required to perform that mitzva.

Yet the Mishna Berura (ad loc.) states that while they are exempt from this obligation, if they choose to eat in the sukka and wish to utter the blessing “leishev basukka,” they must do so themselves; a man may not do it for them. (This means that if the man already ate he may not recite this blessing solely for the woman who did not eat yet – see Ba’er Heitev ad loc.)

The Rema (Orach Chayyim 589) states as follows: “The custom is that women bless on mitzvot aseh sheha’zeman grama,” disputing the Mechaber, who rules that they do not.

Thus we see that even though there is no Biblical mitzva for women to eat in the sukka, there is a halachic precedent. Additionally, the greatest simcha on Yom Tov is when the entire family sits down and enjoys the Yom Tov meals together. Since men must eat in the sukka, it logically follows that the women will eat there as well – but only at their discretion.

However, there are many Chassidim who are very strict that women do not eat in the sukka. The men make Kiddush aloud and the women stay outside the sukka and listen. It is possible that your wife comes from such a family. Usually, a couple follows the husband’s customs. What is unique here is that eating in the sukka is a custom that is dependent on the woman; it is her prerogative.

However, for shalom bayit purposes, you may try to gently persuade your wife to sit with you in the sukka, at least in your home. Understandably, when you are at her parents’ home, it would be proper for you to abide by their customs.

About the Author: Rabbi Yaakov Klass, rav of Congregation K’hal Bnei Matisyahu in Flatbush, Brooklyn, is Torah Editor of The Jewish Press. He can be contacted at yklass@jewishpress.com.


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