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An Open Letter to Sarah Silverman

I wouldn't be writing these words had your most recent video not been framed in biblical language. Its title held deep significance to me, as I am sure was your intention... I believe I have your number...

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Dear Sarah,

You have grown political as of late, and your politics have traction. Your YouTube video “Let My People Vote” has been viewed more than 1.4 million times. You have 3.4 million Twitter followers apparently eager to consume your mix of sexual references and political barbs.

I wouldn’t be writing these words had your most recent video not been framed in biblical language. Its title held deep significance to me, as I am sure was your intention.

Your name is Silverman. My name is Rosenblatt. We both have Jewish ancestors; I am not sure what else we share. You are good at what you do – comedy – and I try to be good at what I do – being a husband, dad, rabbi, and manufacturer of kosher meat. My wife and I are blessed with six children and my day is spent earning for the brood.

You stand out among comedians because your comedy is sharper than theirs. It is crude and clever, simple and punishing; your perception of the human condition is acute, which is why your punch lines bite deeper and hurt longer. You have a knack for finding faults and inconsistencies in people and blowing them wide open with carefully plotted language and cleverly nuanced pauses.

If I were to be gratuitous, I would say you mock what is imperfect because you know what perfect should look like and you seek the ultimate perfection.

But I won’t be so gratuitous. You are in show biz. I am in the rabbi biz. You entertain people. I serve people. I believe I have your number. You will soon turn 42 and your destiny, as you stated, will not include children. You blame it on your depression, saying you don’t want to pass it on to another generation.

I find that confusing, coming from someone as perceptive as you are in dissecting flawed arguments. Surely you appreciate being alive and surely, if the wonder of your womb were afflicted with your weaknesses and blessed with your strengths, it would be happy to be alive, too.

You said you wouldn’t get married until gay people can. Now they can. And you still haven’t married. I think, Sarah, that marriage and childrearing are not in the cards for you because you can’t focus on building life when you spend your days and nights tearing it down.

You have made a career making public that which is private, making crude that which is intimate, making sensual that which is spiritual. You have experienced what traditional Judaism taught long ago: when you make sex a public thing it loses its potency. When the whisper is replaced with a shout there is no magic to speak about. And, in my opinion, Sarah, that is why you have had trouble forging a permanent relationship – the most basic desire of the feminine soul.

Human beings have many acquaintances and fewer friends, but only one spouse. Judaism celebrates the monogamous, intimate relationship with a spouse as the prototype of the intimate relationship with God. Marriage, in Judaism, is holy. Family, in Judaism, is celebrated. But for you, nothing is holy; in your world, nothing is permanent. Your ideology is secular. Your culture may be Jewish, but your mind is not.

I think you have latched on to politics because you are searching for something to build. There is only so much pulling down one can do without feeling utterly destructive. You want to fight for a value so you take your belief – secularism – and promote it. As an Orthodox rabbi, I disagree with just about everything you say, but respect your right to say it. All I ask, respectfully, is that you not use traditional Jewish terminology in your efforts. Because doing so is a lie.

Nothing you say or stand for, Sarah, from your sickening sexual proposal to a Republican donor to your equally vulgar tweet to Mitt Romney, has the slightest thing to do with the most basic of tenets which Judaism has taught the world – that the monogamous relationship is the most meaningful one and that a happy marriage is the key to wholesomeness.

You are driven. You are passionate. I pray that you channel your drive and direct your passion to something positive, something that will make you a better and more positive person, something that will allow you to touch eternity and truly impact the world forever. I pray that you pursue marriage and, if you are so blessed, raise children.

About the Author: Yaakov Rosenblatt, the author of two books, is a rabbi and businessman in Dallas.


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890 Responses to “An Open Letter to Sarah Silverman”

  1. Hey Rabbi Idiot: Is your wife allowed to go to a minion or sit at the front if a bus or choose between abortion or birth. Take your false god and shove god up your judgmental ass. Check your wonderful bible and learn about your cruel god from a book you believe in literally.

    http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/BibleViolence.htm

    Donald Silverman
    http://donaldsilverman.com/DonaldSilverman/Donald_Silverman_Web.html

  2. Lori Zibel says:

    Wow. Dude, seriously take a chill pill. Sarah Silverman is the ultimate lawl cat and if you don't think so – don't listen to /watch her material. Poeple need to learn how to take a joke.

  3. Beryl Cohen says:

    I AGREE WITH U> BUT< HOW COME U R WATCHING AND LISTENING TO SARAH? THAT SURELY IS A STRANGE WAY TO SPEND YOUR TIME!

  4. Anonymous says:

    Wow, does Sarah really need her dad to come to her defense, against a rabbi no less? How embarrassing for her! Did she give you her permission to speak in her name, insulting Judaism and all those who believe in God and treasure the Torah? All for her? Or are you just trying to capitalize on her success (if she really is your daughter)?

    Take your own judgmental ass back to your godless freaks, with their tired, debunked, simplistic biblical criticism. Why is it that so many self-identified atheists are obsessed with religion? Are you a form of parasite?

  5. Hey *******: Daughter #1 is a rabbi. Not by your standards. She's reform. How dare she, a lowly woman think god wants her to be a rabbi, created from a mere rib. Her hubby, three times nominated for a nobel peace prize was listed by the Jerusalem Post as the 49th most influential jew in the world built the worlds largest solar field in israel. By the way, Sarah was also on the list. I missed your name. Oldest granddaughter is serving in the Israel Defense Forces. I'm sure you also served.Oh I forgot the orthodox don't do that. You don't **** with my family.

  6. Joe L. Suttie says:

    Thank You Rabbi Rosenblatt.
    And Please Forgive The Hatrers (Fathers Too).
    They Are Trapped By Some Little godlet And Can't Get Up.

    May The Living God Of Abraham, Isaac And Jacob.
    Bless His Beloved Israel And The U.S.A. Too
    And Even Angry Dads Defending.
    The Indefensible

    With Love
    Joe

    And May The LORD God Almighty Bless The IDF.
    The Home Of The Fighting Jew.
    And Bless Those Who.
    Love Them
    Too

  7. Joe L. Suttie says:

    Donald Silverman, Great Job~!

    May You Be Blessed Beyond All Expectations
    Now And Forever, Amen

    As For Me

    "Set a watch, O LORD, before my mouth; keep the door of my lips." Psalms 141:3

  8. Mr. Donald Silverman, you have undermined anything you might say somewhat intelligently (it was not) by starting off your rant with slanderous filth. Rabbi Rosenblatt was respectful, discreet, and candid about the insult flung about in the name of entertainment by a very sad, little woman who is ashamed of her heritage. Rabbi Rosenblatt is not a self appointed prophet to answer your bone-headed questions about why your daughter cannot sit in on a minyan. He is the keeper of the Faith, not the Creator. Take up your issues with God and the thousand of Rabbis and scholars who preserved this Tradition so that you, in all your arrogance, can bad-mouth all that it stands for. A Jewish army? A Jewish State? Redundant, obsolete, a lost dream, a wisp of smoke (over the ashes of the millions who've died, in Europe, Spain, North Africa, and the Middle East) were it not for our little yidd-lach who may have offended you by discounting women in a minyan, but who wholeheartedly respect, accept and encourage so much flourishing, stunning in volume, learning of the Law by women. Funny thing, that is. The more you learn, the more you respect, the more you can really be included, not in a minyan, but in the golden line of jewish scholars who uphold the Faith. Man or woman. Think on it, and please, try to keep your language clean no matter how angry you may be.

  9. Need I even remind you that not only do Orthodox men AND women serve in the IDF, they serve in the elite units, the fighting units, because they have the Vision of a Jewish nation in the Land given by God, destined for us. You and me, both.

  10. Donald, Wish you would address the issues I raised instead of calling me names. It would be an interesting dialogue. Cordially, Yaakov

  11. Anonymous says:

    Donald Silverman Who wants to **** with your family? We just don't want you, sewer mouth, sewer mind, infecting this space with your pathology. And no, you cannot use the achievements of your family members as an excuse for your own disgusting language and behavior.

    As for Rabbi Rosenblatt, he has a right (even an obligation, as an established authority within the Jewish community) to defend the Jewish faith against slander. His point is that Sarah was lying. She was misrepresenting Judaism to her audience. I would go further and say that she was exploiting her Judaism, smearing it for personal gain. But the bottom line is, she's a public figure. Criticism goes with the territory, and she didn't get where she is by being thin-skinned (with you as a father, how could she have been?) Nevertheless, as Roni Joy Schwartz pointed out above, the rabbi was respectful and discreet, unlike you, butthead.

  12. Jeff Mandell says:

    Does Sarah need her Dad to defend her? Absolutely not.

    But that's what good dads do. If anyone spoke that way about my daughter, I would do the same damn thing.

  13. Jeff Mandell says:

    Yaakov – my Hebrew school teacher taught me that a Jew is a Jew is a Jew. Eichmann never asked how Jewish someone was before he sent them to the gas chamber.

    I know that the concept of love is foreign to your kind of Jews, but for the rest of us, it's kinda important before you commit to marrying someone.

    So keep it to yourself and may your poor, many children break from "tradition" and actually love someone before breeding.

  14. Gila Weiss says:

    I don't know-I found the rabbi's article rather off putting. You know-if you were a REAL woman, you would find a guy, pop out some babies and this will solve all your problems.

    First, not all women want. Second, plenty of twisted and ****ed up moms out there.

    He really did come across misigynist.

  15. Anonymous says:

    Gila Weiss I completely agree! It was very condescending toward women, i.e. the line, "a permanent relationship [is] the most basic desire of the feminine soul." I don't think anyone here would deny that the rabbi has traditional (misogynist) attitudes toward women. And that he's too young to be so arrogant and old-fashioned. But personally I think the vulgarity of Donald Silverman's insults is demeaning to all Jews. What good does it do to denounce the bible and say 'shove god up your ass'?

  16. Gila Weiss says:

    I don't know Ms. Silverman and am utterly unfamiliar with her work. However, speaking as a 42 year old single, childless woman, and having friends who share this demographic, I cannot help but ask myself if this status is difficult for Sarah Silverman as it is for my friends and I? Yes, sometimes G-d gives us what we ask for. And sometimes we ask, and the answer is "no". For that matter, G-d also creates people who really don't want marriage and/or children, and who have the strength and good sense to acknowledge that, rather than going along with the flock and popping out some unwanted children because "hey, that's what you are supposed to do". I know people like that as well. In either case, based on the rabbi's article, it appears that Ms. Silverman is either making the best of a tough situation or has decided that, if she does not wish to go down the family route, she is going to dedicate some of her time, her energy and her fame to something bigger than herself. I may not agree with her politics, but either of the above is worthy of respect, not scorn.

    As for Mr. Silverman's language… I'm a big fan of the F-bomb myself. :) And if you don't get caught up in the language and understand his anger, the man has a point. He has two successful daughters-one of whom is a rabbi and the other is using her status as an entertainer to try to change the world- and some self-appointed expert writes a public missive chock-full of personal insults? And perhaps (really reaching–again–I don't know the first thing about Ms. Silverman) saying things that are extraordinarily painful for her? Or at least extremely annoying, intrusive and disrespectful. (If I have one more random person come up and extol the virtues of having children solo, I am going to go postal).

    In a nutshell, I am biased. But I would like to think that if someone were to attack me in such a manner (and based on the standards of our esteemed religious leader, I am worthy of such an attack), my father would be angry too.

    Now, suppose that the rabbi written an article explaining why he disagreed with Sarah Silverman's politics, her comedic style or with her use of biblical imagery in her political message, but he was able to base this on, say, actual arguments? In short, had he addressed her as an equal–as a person who is entitled to an opinion–as opposed to some desperate female who is mentally unbalanced by her single, childless state, that would be different. I suspect her father's reaction would have been different and if not, his anger would be inappropriate.

    As for the religious serving or not serving–last time I checked, the issue of the Haredim not serving was a major issue around here.

  17. Stephen Leavitt says:

    Check out the new poll on Sarah Silverman: http://www.jewishpress.com/the-poll/.

  18. Ivan Rott says:

    Rabbi Rosenblatt,

    I can't understand why you would criticize Sarah Silverman for "making crude that which is intimate", all the while penning an article specifically aimed to attack the reason(s) why Sarah has chosen not to have children: at it's very core, this is a serious and "intimate" decision on her part. Sarah's humor may be vulgar and, yes, divisive. Some people like it, some people don't. But I'm deeply saddened to witness you, a rabbi, being far more divisive. Sarah's aim is to shake up cultural norms, for better or for worse. Your aim is to divide the Jewish community by condemning Sarah for her political views and her choice not to bear children. What is your motive? Recognition? If you truly cared for Sarah's spiritual well-being, you would have tried to contact her directly and make your plea privately and not, as you've done, to make a public mockery of a very sensitive and private issue.

    Ask yourself, rabbi: Why are you being so divisive? Why are you being so vindictive? One might think Sarah Silverman offended you directly on a personal level. After all, you've retorted with a cruel, personal attack of your own. I would hope and expect that your number one priority, as a rabbi and community leader, would be to continue the proud Jewish tradition of "being a light unto the nations." Instead, you've presented yourself as nothing but a big joke. And it's not even funny.

    Finally: Please don't jump into the political foray, rabbi. It's unbecoming of your title.

    Thank you.

  19. Anonymous says:

    Gila Weiss I think the rabbi did try to explain what he found offensive about Sarah's routine; I think he was trying to say that being Jewish is part of Sarah's act, so her vulgarity is perceived to some extent as a reflection on the religion and that's not fair. But I can only guestimate his POV, because, frankly, the rabbi is not a very good writer! Which is why Donald Silverman's attack of him seems even more vicious, because Donald is a writer!

    Anyone who had spent any time at all crafting a piece of writing could not help but see that the rabbi really struggled to write this letter. And that he was very distraught. And that he bravely put himself at risk, going public with his reproach, because the issue is so important to him. And he did address Sarah as an equal, or tried to. He complimented her intelligence and wit, he deferred to her worldly influence and success – even though he hates what she stands for! That he lapsed into a misogynist rant is unfortunate, but, more than anything, it really pointed out his powerlessness.

  20. Woody Schulz says:

    wait a minute? did you say: "a permanent relationship is the most basic desire of the feminine soul"? Are we a bit misogynetic today, Sir?

  21. Anton Shmerkin says:

    Issues? By all means. Essentially, according to the good rabbi, the only issue here is "go marry, breed and stop using excerpts from "The Guide" (reference to Seinfeld, sorry, couldn't help it) in your comedy". Why should she? Rabbi has an answer to that as well: it's your heritage, your calling, your mitzvah. Right. Well, I guess rabbi assumes that since the Universe is better served by him breeding rug rats and slicing cows the right way, Sarah has to do her part too. As just about any other cleric before him, he knows. He is in the know. He possesses the knowledge which we do not simply because he likes reading old books and we use cell phones on Saturday. "Let My People Go", really? For God's sake, its a SONG TITLE! A collection of letters! However, the story in Exodus, although just as entertaining as the old Loui Armstrong's tune, is not too flattering for Moses and God. Exodus 4:21: "…The Lord said to Moses, "When you return to Egypt, see that you perform before Pharaoh all the wonders I have given you the power to do. But I will harden his heart so that he will not let the people go". Why won't God allow the Pharaoh to let the Jews go before he has a chance to kill a ****load of Egyptians, including their firstborn? Simple. Unless I kill and devastate, people won't believe in me. And you mean to tell me that this is the kind of moral fiber Sarah has to munch on? All due respect, **** that noise!

  22. Donald Silverman, You are awesome! Who cares how closely these ass hats follow Torah or Talmud if they don't show other humans love and respect? Hypocritical? Obviously. Your family is amazing and you must be swelling with pride! Don't ever let judgmental lemmings get you down!

  23. When I clicked on the link, I thought I was going to be reading an Onion article. And it was only about half way through that I realized it wasn't.

    Seriously Mr. Rosenblatt, what were you thinking?

    Sarah is funny as hell, and an activist for great causes. You, on the other hand, appear to me a holier-than-thou douchebag.

    Judge not, lest you be judged is in some book I suspect you have read.

    In my "judgement" Sarah is awesome, and you are a twerp fighting out of your league.

    Stick with the man in the sky stuff, and leave the real world to the better grounded. You know, like Sarah?

  24. Discreet? I'm not sure you know what that word means.

  25. Although I don't think Donald Silverman was right to bash traditional Judaism or Orthodox Jews (of whom he is clearly ignorant as we disproportionately serve in IDF combat units), this piece is basically a sucker punch by Rabbi Rosenblatt. Sarah Silverman's work is fair game, but a long screed about her not getting married is way out of line. As a parent I have sympathy for Donald.

  26. I'm a non-believer and a non-Jew — and I have to agree with the rabbi.
    I don't know Sarah Silverman, and I realize that her character is not really supposed to be her. But I watched 2-3 episodes of her show when it started. Her character was such an unpleasant, callous jerk that I couldn't stand having her in the same room.
    It was also not funny.
    And what's bad about seeking a permanent relationship? Is that worse than seeking money, power, and hundreds of casual partners, as men often do?

  27. Chaim Reich says:

    Now that we have seen her father's comments, one can't blame Sarah Silverman for her vulgarity. She comes upon it honestly.

  28. Chaim Reich says:

    Now that we have seen her father's comments, one can't blame Sarah Silverman for her vulgarity. She comes upon it honestly.

  29. Chaim Reich says:

    Now that we have seen her father's comments, one can't blame Sarah Silverman for her vulgarity. She comes upon it honestly.

  30. Chaim Reich says:

    Now that we have seen her father's comments, one can't blame Sarah Silverman for her vulgarity. She comes upon it honestly.

  31. Chaim Reich says:

    Now that we have seen her father's comments, one can't blame Sarah Silverman for her vulgarity. She comes upon it honestly.

  32. Chaim Reich says:

    Now that we have seen her father's comments, one can't blame Sarah Silverman for her vulgarity. She comes upon it honestly.

  33. Chaim Reich says:

    Now that we have seen her father's comments, one can't blame Sarah Silverman for her vulgarity. She comes upon it honestly.

  34. Yori Yanover says:

    Why is it misogynistic to repeat a truth which is stated by every chick flick since the inception of Hollywood? He didn't say it's the obligation of every woman to marry, he said it's the natural inclination. Do you believe that womb thing is an extra appendage in there for storage? Women are hard wired to be wives and mothers — and two centuries of emancipation have not managed yet to beat it out of them.

    Again — the planet is full of fine women who opt not to marry and give birth, and they're within their rights. But what a waste.

  35. Anonymous says:

    I came expecting something amusing, but came away sad. I mean, how does someone place an op-ed in a paper where the only argument is an ad hominem?

    I mean, I expect that some Orthodox curmudgeons (i.e. The Editorial Board) find misogyny with a reactionary spirit edifying. But I'm shocked that the same have such a low low opinion of the intelligence and education of its readers.

  36. Shahaf John Klein says:

    if you do not agree with the autor of this letter you have the right to voice that opinion but why are the degrading name calling? why don't you ask yourselves is the reason you don't agree is it ignorance?

  37. Shahaf John Klein says:

    if you do not agree with the autor of this letter you have the right to voice that opinion but why are the degrading name calling? why don't you ask yourselves is the reason you don't agree is it ignorance?

  38. Shahaf John Klein says:

    if you do not agree with the autor of this letter you have the right to voice that opinion but why are the degrading name calling? why don't you ask yourselves is the reason you don't agree is it ignorance?

  39. Farmer Jim says:

    me Oooh, big words from an anonymous commenter. Pesonally I don't care that much for Silverman's comedy, but that's no excuse for this rabbi's pathetic attempt to latch on to her bully pulpit via some barstool psychology. I suggest you and your rabbi work to convince the orthodox in Israel to stop making secular Jews die for them in the army while they dodge the draft in order to study the Talmud.

  40. What a great idea — pressuring someone to become a parent when they tell you flat-out that they don't want to.

    Good thing this is 2012, and Sarah (as well as all women) can disregard your presumptuous opinion. These days, we can decide what makes us happy and pursue that, rather than having religious leaders decide it for us.

    Go Sarah (and "crude" girls everywhere)!

  41. Farmer Jim says:

    "Addressing the issues" would honor your attempt to use Silverman's fame to promote your misogyny. How do you know that women don't have a stronger urge to do social justice than find a man? Did the Lord tell you?

  42. Samuel R. Srs says:

    Uh…that guy is a disaster.

  43. Daniel Katz says:

    Attacking Ms. Silverman's comedy act by attacking her entirely personal choices regarding family life? I think someone is going to need to think really hard between now and next Selichot.

  44. What a WASTE? Yori, that is a reprehensible thing to say, as if the only use women have is as a vessel to produce children! I have been married for 27 years but my husband and I chose not to have children. So apparently my career and my involvement with my community, animal rescue, and other causes are worth nothing because I have "wasted" my life by not allowing my uterus to produce a child? There are more than enough children in the world – there are plenty of people having them who don't even take care of them once they're here. I feel my efforts to ensure the Democrats are reelected help those children a lot better than if I'd had one myself. To me having a child is a selfish act, not a selfless one. If you want to be selfless and a raise a child, adopt an unwanted one.

  45. Nice try, rabbi. At least his critiques aren't veiled in patronizing rhetoric and demeaning self-righteousness. Your sanctimonious "open letter" left an awful taste in my mouth.

    I am disgusted by you, much more than anything Sarah silverman has ever uttered. This is how you fail.

  46. Nice try, rabbi. At least his critiques aren't veiled in patronizing rhetoric and demeaning self-righteousness. Your sanctimonious "open letter" left an awful taste in my mouth.

    I am disgusted by you, much more than anything Sarah silverman has ever uttered. This is how you fail.

  47. she means you're supposed to shut up and take it when someone insults you if the person insulting you is a right wing *******.

  48. John Tillinghast: You don't think she is funny, and that she is too vulgar, and therefore you agree with the rabbi on his opinions about her personal life? Does not compute. Also, no one is saying it is bad to want a relationship – but F him for trying to make it seem like the only thing worth doing in the world (for a woman). Not everyone wants that. Having a love life is great – but he needs to BUTT OUT of hers.

  49. Yori Yanover: Yeah, you are obviously not a mysoginist. All those rights for women are such a waste, aren't they? Like seriously, who needs them anyway? It would be so much better if those damned wenches just did as they were bid by rational and englightened men like they're 'spose to.

  50. D'va Grrl says:

    Rabbi Rosenblatt,

    As a 44 year old Jewess who is married and childless by choice, I would like to offer this thought –

    Anything you may have said in your "open letter" that was of value is completely drowned out by your misogynist leanings and tunnel vision.

    Children and marriage are choices like so many things in life (including religion and the orthodoxy therein). To state that a woman is somehow less than because she chooses differently than you or your family might is not only an insult to your wife, but is as detrimental as any other form of prejudice as it informs your world view and affects anyone who comes into contact with you.

    You believe Sarah Silverman is wrong. You believe she is not an authentic voice for the Jewish people. That is your right. As it is her right to speak her mind and share her thoughts on religion.

    It is why we live in America, Rabbi. Freedom of speech and freedom of religion. Freedom, Rabbi. Which means she has as much right to say what she says and believe what she believes as you do.

    You suggest she get married and have kids to be happy. I suggest that if you prefer to have it otherwise, feel free to live elsewhere.

  51. D'va Grrl says:

    Rabbi Rosenblatt,

    As a 44 year old Jewess who is married and childless by choice, I would like to offer this thought –

    Anything you may have said in your "open letter" that was of value is completely drowned out by your misogynist leanings and tunnel vision.

    Children and marriage are choices like so many things in life (including religion and the orthodoxy therein). To state that a woman is somehow less than because she chooses differently than you or your family might is not only an insult to your wife, but is as detrimental as any other form of prejudice as it informs your world view and affects anyone who comes into contact with you.

    You believe Sarah Silverman is wrong. You believe she is not an authentic voice for the Jewish people. That is your right. As it is her right to speak her mind and share her thoughts on religion.

    It is why we live in America, Rabbi. Freedom of speech and freedom of religion. Freedom, Rabbi. Which means she has as much right to say what she says and believe what she believes as you do.

    You suggest she get married and have kids to be happy. I suggest that if you prefer to have it otherwise, feel free to live elsewhere.

  52. Chaim Orent says:

    What dialogue? You're saying someone disagrees with you because in their natural, healthy state they wouldn't have that opinion and would hardly have any opinion! How can you claim to serve people if after insulting someone's daughter–if I were enough of an idiot to be dan l'chaf zchut I'd say unintentionally–you follow up with a request to respond to the *substance* of your comments?! That's sick, unrepentant, vicious bullying! Does that seem normal to you? To have insulted someone's child publicly and call them out for not participating the the "discussion" right? The only way your behavior is in any way consistent is if by serving people, you really mean serving *your own* people.

  53. Ahaaaa! I see how it works: This rabbi and all the other OJ's OWN Judaism and therefore it is prohibited to criticize it… But what about Sarah's personal life? Her relationship choices? Those belong to us all – so let's call it a party and start belittleing her!

  54. Ahaaaa! I see how it works: This rabbi and all the other OJ's OWN Judaism and therefore it is prohibited to criticize it… But what about Sarah's personal life? Her relationship choices? Those belong to us all – so let's call it a party and start belittleing her!

  55. Ahaaaa! I see how it works: This rabbi and all the other OJ's OWN Judaism and therefore it is prohibited to criticize it… But what about Sarah's personal life? Her relationship choices? Those belong to us all – so let's call it a party and start belittleing her!

  56. Ahaaaa! I see how it works: This rabbi and all the other OJ's OWN Judaism and therefore it is prohibited to criticize it… But what about Sarah's personal life? Her relationship choices? Those belong to us all – so let's call it a party and start belittleing her!

  57. You're the editor here, Mr. Yanover? That's disgusting.

  58. You're the editor here, Mr. Yanover? That's disgusting.

  59. Yori Yanover : And also, when the hell did hollywood chickflicks become a beacon of truth??/ In what universe? You do realize those movies are mostly made by man too right? What a load of crap you spur.

  60. Lewis Fein says:

    Whatever the merits of Donald Silverman's points, he starts with an ad hominem attack — and his responses worsen from there.

  61. Gila Weiss says:

    Yori–you do realize that chick flicks are movies, right? As in, make believe? And that they may or may not be representative of all women?

  62. Gila Weiss says:

    Yori–you do realize that chick flicks are movies, right? As in, make believe? And that they may or may not be representative of all women?

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    I wish I could click 'Like' on Mimi's post many more times.

  67. Anye Mercy says:

    I wish I could click 'Like' on Mimi's post many more times.

  68. Anye Mercy says:

    I wish I could click 'Like' on Mimi's post many more times.

  69. Anye Mercy says:

    I wish I could click 'Like' on Mimi's post many more times.

  70. Anye Mercy says:

    I wish I could click 'Like' on Mimi's post many more times.

  71. Donald Silverman best Dad ever.

  72. Roman Kogan says:

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  73. Mark Emery says:

    Those who are dead inside will kick and scream as you hold a mirror to their emptiness. They may claim to defend Silverman, but they're really upset that they've bought the lies and are now living shallow lives. Their anger is at their own choices.

    Praying for those who are lost? Righteous, not misogynist. Warning the next generation about the long-term consequences of pursuing selfish living is honorable.

    Rock on, rabbi.

  74. Denver Tina says:

    Rabbi – God isn't real. Sorry.

  75. Jason Feifer says:

    Thank you, Rabbi Yaakov Rosenblatt, for continuing to prove that religious intolerance such as yours is completely disgusting, no matter what religion it comes from.

  76. Also, while I don't know Sarah Silverman personally, I'm a HUGE fan of her work and from what I've read in her book (which is so honest and so brilliant) and what I've seen of her in interviews, she seems like she has the biggest heart, which is more valuable than religion any day. Everyone who has met her has said that she is very kind, very smart and very caring. I've also heard that she loves children and is very interested in being a parent eventually through adoption. So I'm not sure where this idea that she's against being a parent comes from, unless you're under the impression that adopted children "don't count," in which case, and I'm saying this as an adopted individual, that would be extremely offensive. But I won't put words in your mouth ;). Anything she says that might be deemed "offensive" is said in humor and with a bigger picture in mind. She aims to combat the social ills of our society, which is noble regardless of what format she uses. It's wonderful to see a kind and aware person not be afraid to speak up about prevalent issues and I think she is so brave and influential.

  77. Donna Barstow says:

    I can't respect the Rabbi who wrote this, because he has chosen to kill animals for a living. And his decision to have 6 kids is selfish and obnoxious.

    On the other hand, he makes a good point about Sarah S being vulgar insulting, and inappropriate. I guess it's no secret now, she must get it from her Dad!

  78. Donna Barstow says:

    I can't respect the Rabbi who wrote this, because he has chosen to kill animals for a living. And his decision to have 6 kids is selfish and obnoxious.

    On the other hand, he makes a good point about Sarah S being vulgar insulting, and inappropriate. I guess it's no secret now, she must get it from her Dad!

  79. You're acting like a child, especially considering you've got to be older than 50. In any case, Jewish women can have abortions. Stop conflating Evangelicalism with Orthodoxy.

  80. The best thing about angry people who don't want to have kids is that he/she won't be reproducing any. Doesn't that apply to Ms. Silverman as well? I don't agree that there was a need to write this article but Sarah Silverman has made her life public. She is a public figure. As such, she has given up a lot of privacy about her life choices. Why can't someone question them and try to offer some solutions for her unhappiness? Disagree if you want but say something intelligent, not angry.

  81. Adam Shprintzen says:

    You ask for a dialogue now after patronizing his daughter in the most horrific, needless, personal attack. And somehow that isn't lashon hara? Kol Ha'Kavod to Sarah's dad for standing up to your intellectual thuggery.

  82. Adam Shprintzen says:

    You ask for a dialogue now after patronizing his daughter in the most horrific, needless, personal attack. And somehow that isn't lashon hara? Kol Ha'Kavod to Sarah's dad for standing up to your intellectual thuggery.

  83. Anonymous says:

    I'm wondering what an orthodox Rabbi is doing listening to or watching another woman other than his wife. That totally goes against the Orthodox value system, right/ As far as discussing sex in public, I seem to recall a bunch of Orthodox women on Oprah discussing it among other things I'm sure you think should be kept private. Oh, and as far as politics go, I see you publicly support Rick Perry. I bet you support those Orthodox men who throw stones at women and vandalize property if the women and pictures aren't dressed modest according to you. I'm really tired of the Orthodox (not all, but many) thinking that it's their right to tell all Jews how to live their lives. Just curious if you support the Neturei Karta as well.

  84. Judi O'Neil says:

    You go girl. I'm not a fan of Sarah Silverman but she doesn't need a rabbi to tell her to have marry or have children just as the Pope doesn't need to tell his flock to have babies no matter what.

  85. Jordana Brown says:

    It may be nice to defend one's daughter, but I would be MORTIFIED if mine did it in such an undignified and hateful way. You do not need to denigrate and rabbi, Orthodox Jews, the Torah or G-d to make your point. People may be "liking" your comment but that is likely because they think it's cool that a famous person's dad is writing on this website. It's such a shame that instead of talking about what's great about your daughter, you feel the need to shame a rabbi for his opinion.

  86. Jordana Brown says:

    What is mysoginistic about the rabbi pointing out that it is normal and proper for a Jewish woman to want to marry and have babies? All you women screeching about being happy to be single and childless GOOD FOR YOU. It is NOT the Torah ideal, so get over yourselves. It's great you love Sarah Silverman, and want to defend her- but at the expense of another Jew? Who ARE you to do that? There is so much anti-Orthodox sentiment on here, it is REVOLTING. You are all SO "open-minded" when the person shares your views, but HEAVEN FORBID and Orthodox person, or a right-wing person has an opinion and suddenly, they are not entitled? It makes me unendingly sad.

  87. Jordana Brown says:

    Hey buddy- you have problems your should definitely address. Denigrating a rabbi may make you feel better for a minute, but your issues run deep.

  88. Adam Shprintzen says:

    And what of those women who do try and are not able to have a baby? Pathetic.

  89. Adam Shprintzen says:

    Yori Yanover And what of those women who are not able to have a baby? Are they a waste as well? What garbage is being spewed on this pathetic little site and publication.

  90. Adam Shprintzen says:

    Yori Yanover And what of those women who are not able to have a baby? Are they a waste as well? What garbage is being spewed on this pathetic little site and publication.

  91. Adam Shprintzen says:

    Yori Yanover And what of those women who are not able to have a baby? Are they a waste as well? What garbage is being spewed on this pathetic little site and publication.

  92. Adam Shprintzen says:

    Yori Yanover And what of those women who are not able to have a baby? Are they a waste as well? What garbage is being spewed on this pathetic little site and publication.

  93. Adam Shprintzen says:

    Yori Yanover And what of those women who are not able to have a baby? Are they a waste as well? What garbage is being spewed on this pathetic little site and publication.

  94. Adam Shprintzen says:

    Yori Yanover And what of those women who are not able to have a baby? Are they a waste as well? What garbage is being spewed on this pathetic little site and publication.

  95. Rich Wise says:

    Slanderous filth? The rabbit is an idiot – facts are not slander.

  96. Shahaf John Klein says:

    assuming you are right in all your points, again just assuming. dont you think that you may get your points acrossed if you were a bit more civil? and another question, why are the tolerant liberals can never debate a subject? you guys are always right away start with name calling and become emotional rather then actually debate the merit of the matter?

  97. Rich Wise says:

    Rabbi is being a cyberbully. My advice to Sarah would be to turn the other cheek. ;0

  98. конкретно сегодня я слишком слаб физически и в английском,чтобы осилить. ты обобщи, ты консерватор и за ромни? или чо там после второго абзаца про как ей шутить дальше?

  99. I used to live this bull**** that the rabbi spewes, so don't give me any of that twisted logic. You fail to realize that showing anger at injustice and speaking up against it does not equal being an angry person in general. We just have a conscience and want to defend what should be defended (not archaic and misogynist ideas that seek to conform everyone into homogenity under the name of holiness). Bite me.

  100. Shaun Duke says:

    Meanwhile, you have no problem with the author of the above post suggesting that Sarah Silverman isn't fulfilling her duty (or able to have a fulfilling life) because she hasn't married and become a baby factory yet (and may or may not have the desire to do so in the future). Sexist drivel? Yeehaw. Dad defending his daughter w/o mincing words? How dare you be so uncivil!

    We have a name for such things. Bias blinders. They should remain off, thank you very much.

    What you're asking is for someone to have a rational debate with someone who has *already* failed to open the discussion civilly and rationally. That's like asking someone to use a TV that someone has bashed with a hammer.

    It's fine to want a civil discussion, but that requires civility from *both sides* at the moment of discussion. That was not provided here.

  101. That it's not the Torah ideal is IRRELEVANT. That's the whole point lady. Do you fail to see how Sarah has chosen NOT to live under archaic halacha for a reason? That's her private business. The rabbi brought it up – not Sarah -when he attacked her intimate and personal life. "WHO IS HE?" is the real wuestion. Now he has to deal with the backlash. It is BAD to point it out because she obviously DOESN'T want that – and he is pushing her to do it (not that it would ever work). It's blantantly disrespectful!

  102. Woody Schulz says:

    @Yori: Sir, may I assume that your opinion stated here is the official opinion of the jewish Press?

  103. Jordana Brown says:

    It most CERTAINLY is relevant. That's the place he's coming from. He's making an observation that may be QUITE true, but that you don't like. Why on Earth are YOU correct? I think he is all good with the backlash- as 99% of it are coming from people who seem to care not a whit about respect, morals or the strictures of the Torah. He is pushing her? He's suggesting an idea he had. It's possible that you have a strong inclination to hate on a rabbi's differing morals (because that's what they are) just as I have the inclination to respect a Torah authority. Be well.

  104. Woody Schulz says:

    @Donald: Sir, may I say: you rock!

  105. Liz Haag says:

    Mr. Rosenblatt,

    I am sure you do not see yourself as a bad person. I am also sure you have helped many people throughout the course of your life. No person is all bad or all good. Unfortunately this article is bad. It is extremely damaging in ways, that as a man, you will never fully understand.

    Your words reinforce a system that values women through the very limited vision of men. Not to say that unfair standards do not appear in the secular community as well, in their own way – they do. But you should be held accountable for your hand in the damage if you are going to speak on behalf of the Jewish community.

    It is likely that the views on women, and their roles and choices, voiced in this article are genuinely shared by many of the women in your life. It is also likely, that because of the community they are raised in, they will never be informed of their other options.

    However, know this, if your wife or daughters do disagree with you, and want something different for themselves, they will never have be able to tell you, for fear of rejection from you. Because of this, you will always live in a world that risks dishonesty. It is this type of subtle bullying, “slut shaming” as it has come to be known (a phrase that well represents the vulgarity of which it describes) and manipulation that has allowed women to be controlled by men for so long. It is the reason that so many Jewish women have issues dating and marrying so many Jewish men. These misogynistic ideas have been drilled into their heads since they were boys. It’s enough. The time for these ideas have come and gone.

    Please know, from Jewish women that worship differently from you: You are officially as irrelevant to us, as you have shown us we are to you. Tonight I will pray for your daughters.

    All the best.

  106. Anonymous says:

    dear rabbi,
    As I understand the laws of tochacha (rebuke), a person must being given rebuke 'available' to receive the words of rebuke, and they should come from a place of loving- kindness.
    Respectfully, I don't believe the manner that you delivered your message meet this criteria.
    Word such as these ought to be delivered in person, where there is the best chance to 'know' id someone is available to receive such words.
    You may believe that your words do in fact come from a place of love, and its not so much an issue of your opinion, but I believe that what you may have done is plant the seeds for more 'baseless hatred'. Please consider as it makes my job to bring about tikun olam more difficult.

    Leib Getzel

  107. Liz Haag says:

    Mr. Rosenblatt,

    I am sure you do not see yourself as a bad person. I am also sure you have helped many people throughout the course of your life. No person is all bad or all good. Unfortunately this article is bad. It is extremely damaging in ways, that as a man, you will never fully understand.

    Your words reinforce a system that values women through the very limited vision of men. Not to say that unfair standards do not appear in the secular community as well, in their own way – they do. But you should be held accountable for your hand in the damage if you are going to speak on behalf of the Jewish community.

    It is likely that the views on women, and their roles and choices, voiced in this article are genuinely shared by many of the women in your life. It is also likely, that because of the community they are raised in, they will never be informed of their other options.

    However, know this, if your wife or daughters do disagree with you, and want something different for themselves, they will never be able to tell you, for fear of rejection from you. Because of this, you will always live in a world that risks dishonesty. It is this type of subtle bullying, “slut shaming” as it has come to be known (a phrase that well represents the vulgarity of which it describes) and manipulation that has allowed women to be controlled by men for so long. It is the reason that so many Jewish women have issues dating and marrying so many Jewish men. These misogynistic ideas have been drilled into their heads since they were boys. It’s enough. The time for these ideas have come and gone.

    Please know, from Jewish women that worship differently from you: You are officially as irrelevant to us, as you have shown us we are to you. Tonight I will pray for your daughters.

    All the best.

  108. Liz Haag says:

    Mr. Rosenblatt,

    I am sure you do not see yourself as a bad person. I am also sure you have helped many people throughout the course of your life. No person is all bad or all good. Unfortunately this article is bad. It is extremely damaging in ways, that as a man, you will never fully understand.

    Your words reinforce a system that values women through the very limited vision of men. Not to say that unfair standards do not appear in the secular community as well, in their own way – they do. But you should be held accountable for your hand in the damage if you are going to speak on behalf of the Jewish community.

    It is likely that the views on women, and their roles and choices, voiced in this article are genuinely shared by many of the women in your life. It is also likely, that because of the community they are raised in, they will never be informed of their other options.

    However, know this, if your wife or daughters do disagree with you, and want something different for themselves, they will never be able to tell you, for fear of rejection from you. Because of this, you will always live in a world that risks dishonesty. It is this type of subtle bullying, “slut shaming” as it has come to be known (a phrase that well represents the vulgarity of which it describes) and manipulation that has allowed women to be controlled by men for so long. It is the reason that so many Jewish women have issues dating and marrying so many Jewish men. These misogynistic ideas have been drilled into their heads since they were boys. It’s enough. The time for these ideas have come and gone.

    Please know, from Jewish women that worship differently from you: You are officially as irrelevant to us, as you have shown us we are to you. Tonight I will pray for your daughters.

    All the best.

  109. Idiot (the one name he called you) a stupid person.
    I believe he used the right name for you. You make me sad.

  110. Idiot (the one name he called you) a stupid person.
    I believe he used the right name for you. You make me sad.

  111. I think you're the kinda woman that makes Rosenlatt hard.

  112. The "open letter" is the vulgar posting. It's the content that is important not the words. Cum.

  113. How is it up there all by yourself?

  114. How is it up there all by yourself?

  115. You are projecting anger into what you read. For the most part there is no anger in the comments denouncing Rosy. Remember that through all Rosys condensation he is trying to start a fight.
    I would never condescend to anyone that I wanted to get through to.

  116. Rosy made much more of a vulgar assault in his open letter than any word could conger up.

  117. Shahaf John Klein says:

    disagree completely

  118. Shahaf John Klein says:

    he is not by himself, but i guess if you are not a bleeding liberal you are thought if being by yourself

  119. Shahaf John Klein says:

    the beauty of this country, you can agree to disagree

  120. When you speak down to or "pray" for others it's condescending and not conducive to open dialogue. When you believe in a club that keeps others out or wages wars on others who don't think like you, you tend to be someone who thinks them self better than others. But guess what, you guys are down here in the muck with us. Stop judging us and start living with us.

  121. Shahaf John Klein says:

    see that is where you are wrong! i do not judge nor do i want to be judged. i do not start wars. my clubs does not keep people out, all are invited to join. the right is being called all kinds of names. we dont think we are better, we strive to be the best we can and hope that others will do the same. as i watch the media and what i see in my own neighborhoods is that the left can not argue on merits and become emotional and are the most intolerant people. i know you will disagree and that is ok, its not my job to change your mind

  122. What are the left intolerant of? I think they just want to be left alone and not have religion affecting our political process. The left is a broad and vague term of which accounts for 50% of people and not always the same people. The left are made up of the same people that the right are as in religious, intellectuals, athletes and what have you. The left and right are attached to the same body and share more than they differ. Maybe we need to look at our common core connections rather than squabbling over words.
    The devil is in the details.

  123. Ari Moss says:

    Rabbi,

    Your position is intolerant, hostile and lacks the sensitivity demanded of us by Torah. You are using your narrow selected reading of Jewish texts to support an ideology that wants the poor to remain poor, the powerful and wealthy to remain as such, and he stranger to be ostracized. Lest you forget, Sarah Silverman, and liberals are like you, children of Adam–created in the image of HaShem.

    Your comments about monogamy are offensive and inaccurate. Lest you forget Avram Avinu has multiple wives, as did Ya'akov. Monogamy was not a traditional Jewish value from Torah–but a later adopted one. I am certain you know this–you are a Rabbi.

    To attack a Jew for using her Judaism for political action is to attack all Jews who use Torah to help them make political decisions. For example, my Torah teaches VE'AHAVTA LERE'ACHA KAMOCHA–love your neighbor as yourself–it is Torah that commands us to see our neighbors of other backgrounds (not specifically ashkenazi Jewish) as worthy of divine love–as worthy of our love and our help. My Torah (and yours for that matter) also teaches, "These are the generations of Adam" which Ben Azzai taught was the greatest lesson of Torah–because no one's fatehr is better than any others (although you seem to have ignored this).

    It appears that Sarah Silverman and I vote with these values in the front of our minds when we embrace progressive candidates. The better question is why do you ignore these?

    Who are you to castigate her when other Jews are far worse? Where is your moral outrage at the thousands of Orthodox Jews siphoning money from the United States in welfare payments, so they can learn in Kollel rather than earn livings and provide for their families? How many articles have you written attacking the Skverer Rebbe for forbidding secular marriage licenses so that his congregants can get welfare as single mothers? None. How many articles have you written castigating the parasites in the Jewish State who refuse national service, military service, but demand welfare payments in Israel? None. You selected Sarah Silverman because her politics differ from yours.

    Picking on Sarah Silverman makes a political point masked as a Jewish argument–it would be laughable if it was not so dumb.

    L'Shalom.

  124. frankly not much jewish about reform. and i am not ortho reform is a sept religion now. they should just be honest about it but they aren't.

  125. Steve Dallas says:

    Missed whatever all this is about, but I really don't go to Sarah Silverman for my political or religious advice. This is what I think of when I think of Sarah Silverman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xsaMcw69D8

  126. Steve Dallas says:

    Missed whatever all this is about, but I really don't go to Sarah Silverman for my political or religious advice. This is what I think of when I think of Sarah Silverman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xsaMcw69D8

  127. Liz Alward says:

    Beautifully stated Mr. Rott.

  128. Tim Rik says:

    Sarah Silverman is not funny, that is her real problem, she is pathetic and not funny.

  129. Aqibha Y. Weisinger Etc says:

    I saw this and honestly wanted to respond to you, from an Orthodox Jewish perspective, on behalf of Mr. Silverman. Unfortunately, I'm being honest here, I searched in vain for substantial arguments, and I could find none, just presumptuous, condescending, judgmental rhetoric. So, I ask you, if you could provide some substance that I can work with, that would be really appreciated.

  130. Sarah Danya Livingston says:

    gays can't legally get married in our state of residence., to fact check tone of many ignorant statements here.

  131. Hannah Stander Riederer says:

    I found this article rather insulting as a Jew and a women.
    Sarah Silverman is standing up for justice. This article is just judgmental.

  132. Cam Eo says:

    JEW TANG CLAN… srsly though, let this woman speak.

  133. Deborah Goldstein says:

    Among the suffocating self right righteous loathing of this unsolicited letter. One wonders exactly what bible is Rosenblatt referring to? ( I refuse to call him Rabbi, no Rabbi I know could be so full of 1939 reminiscent sounding hate). One spouse? A woman having political valor proves to be a non- Jewish attribute? What? Remember Esther? But really what bible are you looking at? "Human beings have many acquaintances and fewer friends, but only one spouse. Judaism celebrates the monogamous, intimate relationship with a spouse as the prototype of the intimate relationship with God. Marriage, in Judaism, is holy. Family, in Judaism, is celebrated. But for you, nothing is holy; in your world, nothing is permanent. Your ideology is secular. Your culture may be Jewish, but your mind is not." What?

  134. Deborah Goldstein says:

    Among the suffocating self righteous loathing statements in this unsolicited letter, one wonders exactly what bible is Rosenblatt referring to? ( I refuse to call him Rabbi, no Rabbi I know could be so full of 1939 reminiscent sounding hate). One spouse? A woman having political valor proves to be a non- Jewish attribute? What? Remember Esther? But really what bible are you looking at? "…Judaism celebrates the monogamous, intimate relationship with a spouse as the prototype of the intimate relationship with God. Marriage, in Judaism, is holy. Family, in Judaism, is celebrated. But for you, nothing is holy; in your world, nothing is permanent. Your ideology is secular. Your culture may be Jewish, but your mind is not." What?

  135. Brian Cooperman says:

    I hope he writes a letter for me. I LOVE free advice.

  136. And also, couldn't the good rabbi's time be spent in ways more productive than this? I'm embarrassed for him.

  137. Daniel Brezenoff says:

    Wait a minute, the basic tenet of Judaism is monogamy?

    The 13 Articles of the Jewish Faith proposed by Maimonides are these:

    God exists
    God is one and unique.
    God is incorporeal.
    God is eternal.
    Prayer is to God only.
    The prophets spoke truth.
    Moses was the greatest of the prophets.
    The Written and Oral Torah were given to Moses.
    There will be no other Torah.
    God knows the thoughts and deeds of men.
    God will reward the good and punish the wicked.
    The Messiah will come.
    The dead will be resurrected.

    The Torah provides very little guidance with regard to the procedures of a marriage. The method of finding a spouse, the form of the wedding ceremony, and the nature of the marital relationship are all explained in the Talmud.

    AND:
    Judaism believes in the concept of soul mates, called bashert.
    The primary purpose of marriage is love and companionship, not just childbearing.
    A contract called a ketubah spells out terms of marriage and divorce.
    Marriages between certain close relatives are prohibited.
    Children born out of wedlock are not bastards in Jewish law.

    So, actually, monogamy isn't "the most basic of tenets which Judaism has taught the world ".

    More importantly: Who asked you?

  138. Yori Yanover says:

    Mimi Peizer Michalski — There are not enough children in the world. Ask any economist — a country thrives in direct correlation with its birthrate. The reason Europe is in dip trouble is its negative birthrate, with the vacuum being filled with the very people who will some day destroy it. The U.S. is not as bad off, but we need more children because children mean prosperity and a blessing on the spiritual, emotional and physical level.

    You define yourself, essentially, as a childless minder of society, the modern equivalent of the eunuchs that used to work for ancient kings. Now, every society must have a few eunuchs, but when you have more eunuchs than "breeders" you get a society fast reaching its demise.

    Most readers would rather call me names for uttering these unthinkable truths, but some might actually agree with me.

  139. Yori Yanover says:

    Donna Barstow — when you say the rabbi's choice to have 6 children is "selfish and obnoxious" — whose moral yardstick are you employing?

  140. Yori Yanover says:

    Denver Tina — I called, He says He is real and He's coming for tea.

  141. Yori Yanover says:

    Yalda Bat Chofesh — On the other hand, you could actually read what I wrote saying that women are within their rights to do whatever they want — but I'm sure you don't let facts confuse you.

  142. Yori Yanover says:

    Adam Shprintzen — as the father of an adopted child, I believe I've found a remarkable solution. She is beautiful, she is 21 and I hope to babysit many grandchildren soon enough.

  143. Yori Yanover says:

    Gila Weiss — What I meant is that they make billions of dollars because chicks flock to them. They represent the aspirations of young women, or they won't be made.

  144. Yori Yanover says:

    Woody Schulz — naaa, I only clean around here.

  145. Yori Yanover says:

    Yalda Bat Chofesh — who fills up the theaters to the tune of $15 a pop? Martians?

  146. Susan Moore says:

    Rabbi, how dare you attempt to admonish Ms. Silverman publically!

    Nice job, Dad!

  147. Colby Phelps says:

    Shahaf John Klein : your rebuttal is based off of your judgement, correct? So all of your reasoning's and crafted words are there to back up one basic thing you offer: your own judgement of somebody else. Nice. Very high minded.

  148. Beth Greene says:

    I wish religious people would stick to feeding the hungry and helping those who want and need help. Stop being judgmental and divisive. It is so hypocritical. Sarah is brilliant and funny and not hurting anyone. And her personal life is nobody's business.

  149. Colby Phelps says:

    Discreet???! He posted an open letter on the INTERNET. You know, the internet? Roni, I am sorry to share this with you, but the huge paragraph that follows is sketchy at best. You too take a judgmental path thinking maybe that will render your opinions true, or more true, because your judgements are correct? You bad mouth Sarah just as much as her Father bashed the rabbi. Who cares whether the language is filthy? We're mostly grown ups on the web that read these articles and offer our take in the comment section. What a mess. I don't think you helped any.

  150. Brent Metcalfe says:

    Dear Rabbi,

    You lost me at "You have grown political as of late," especially since Sarah has been a political activist for _years_. If you don’t care enough to get the most rudimentary fact correct, please spare us the lecture on humor and the divine. We monogamist breeding humans can only hope that God isn’t confined by your silly notions of what is and what is not. I can’t fathom the hubris that allows one to pretend to speak for God, let alone allows one to tell us which political party God endorses.

    If you’re not ashamed, you should be.

  151. Colby Phelps says:

    Jason Sokolowski Golden :)

  152. Stephen Leavitt says:

    If Sarah Silverman supported Romney and not Obama, I wonder if the outpouring of support would be just as strident (and as intolerant of a different opinion) as it is now.

  153. Joshua Guess says:

    Rabbi, I think after attacking the character of the man's daughter you should be happy with the amount of restraint shown. You clearly have your own (very narrow) views on what a woman's role or place in society should be. That's sad–especially for any woman unlucky enough to be inside your personal orbit–but I don't want to attack your faith. Instead, let me just say what all of us are thinking after clicking the link to your facebook profile and looking at your picture:

    You look like a police sketch of every pedophile I've ever seen.

    Now that? THAT is comedy, you *******.

  154. Joshua Guess says:

    Rabbi, I think after attacking the character of the man's daughter you should be happy with the amount of restraint shown. You clearly have your own (very narrow) views on what a woman's role or place in society should be. That's sad–especially for any woman unlucky enough to be inside your personal orbit–but I don't want to attack your faith. Instead, let me just say what all of us are thinking after clicking the link to your facebook profile and looking at your picture:

    "This guy…looks like he has problems with women. That article makes so much more sense now."

  155. Donna Barstow says:

    How about do unto others? When you have 6 children, are you thinking at ALL about the rest of the world, or is it just yourself and your kin? Why don't you grab all the water and food and land while you're at it? He may provide for his family financially (in a bloody way, might I add), but unless he has great powers, he's depleting natural resources for everyone else with such self-centered actions.

  156. Elizabeth Aldridge says:

    0.o It's incredibly judgmental.

  157. Hmm.. sounds more like he touched a nerve there, Donald. And now we all know where she learned her loathing of Judaism from.

  158. It's a shame they didn't actually read your article. They just figured you're picking on her and read the words not the context.

  159. Mimi Peizer Michalski :

    "To me having a child is a selfish act, not a selfless one."

    And yet you chose not to have children, so what exactly is your point of reference? Or are you simply being judgmental of the people who have children? The multitude of things I give to my children – love, knowledge, discipline, fun, tradition – is by its very nature selfless.

    Not having children is your choice, but think about it this way: my children will vote Republican when you're on Social Security. Who will yours vote for?

  160. We just read in last week's Torah portion that man was formed in the image of God.

    If, however, you prefer to believe that you "evolved" from a poo-flinging monkey, that's certainly your prerogative. Say hi to Grandma the next time you're at the zoo.

  161. It's okay for your sister to publicly lambaste whomever or whatever she feels will elicit a laugh, but when she's called on it you criticize the person for doing it *publicly*? Are you serious? You do understand that by performing in public, she becomes a public figure, right?

    Don't you publicly sermonize on a range topics? Do you think you're above reproach and comments of your congregants, or is what you preach so watered down in PC rhetoric that the only response you get is a murmured, "wonderful sermon, rabbi" as you say goodbye to the dwindling number of people who leave your temple?

  162. Donna Barstow

    Oh please. When 0.2% of the population of the world is having 6 kids, it's not going to suck out all the air from the atmosphere.

    As a chef, for whom respect for food sources is paramount, and having actually read the research on stunning, etc., and actually understanding the physiological effect of kosher slaughter vis a vis instantaneous death, and not getting caught up in the anthropomorphic nonsense of cows being scared, etc., I can say with a high degree of certainty that kosher slaughter remains the most humane method of killing animals.

    FYI/FD: during the week, I'm vegetarian.

  163. Gila Weiss You do understand that movies are not make believe ex nihilo? They actually come from real life situations that are massaged into storylines, plots and characters?

  164. Adam Shprintzen "Can't" isn't "won't"

  165. Jason Sokolowski See, THAT comment was misogynistic.

    What if someone said that about the little girl in your profile pic?

  166. Is this your own conclusion, or is this the conclusion you've reached after speaking to various experts on the matter, or after years of study and research?

    Wait, no, let me guess: this is how you *feel* about it, so that makes it right!

  167. Gila Weiss says:

    From my POV, yes. The rabbi crossed the line.

  168. Anton Shmerkin says:

    ты видно к тому же еще и пьян…)))

  169. Susan Moore says:

    What does sermonizing on a range of topics have to do with the rabbi counselling or admonishing her publicly? Extremely bad form for a rabbi.

  170. Banannah Whitemale says:

    Yori Yanover , have you ever opened a biology textbook…?

  171. When you speak publicly, or post videos publicly, you invite comments, criticisms, admonishments, advice, hate mail. That's the nature of being a public figure. It's why פרקי אבות advises against it.

    Also, ויקרא 19:17 is the biblical source for the commandment to rebuke someone. Obviously, halacha sets the guidelines and boundaries.

    Rabbi is merely a title. I don't know what the "form" of a rabbi is supposed to look like. I have met many different "forms" of rabbis in my life, all quite different from one another.

    I'm curious; as a rabbi, how do you reconcile your avocation with your father's rage towards a "false god?"

  172. Elli Fischer says:

    Jason Sokolowski: "When you believe in a club that keeps others out or wages wars on others who don't think like you".
    Donald Silverman: "Oldest granddaughter is serving in the Israel Defense Forces. I'm sure you also served. Oh I forgot the orthodox don't do that."
    Look guys, I get that we don't like the article, but if we're going to go after those crazy fundie Orthos, we need to be consistent. We can't accuse them of both waging war and dodging the draft. Let's get those canards straight!

  173. Hey Donald, certainly understand your ire. Impressive progeny, keep up the good work!

    I'm orthodox and my son is in the IDF (committed to 10 years!). Most orthodox actually do serve. You're confusing orthodox with Ultra-orthodox, or chareidi, most of whom do not serve their country. Also, please don't judge all orthodox Jews by the behavior of this rabbi.

  174. Mark Korman says:

    I think you may have posted the wrong article.

  175. Mark Korman says:

    just kidding. missed the comments. Go about your day :)

  176. Elli Fischer says:

    Nope. I'm responding to some of the comments.

  177. Duke Kilroy says:

    I read it. Did you? She doesn't want to get married. She suffers from depression. Who has the right to tell her to get married and have children. What world do you live in? A father responding from the gut after a public denouncing of his child is wrong? Like is said, what world do you love in?

  178. Duke Kilroy says:

    Wow, women are baby factories. You are sick. Just so sick.

  179. No, she's shilling for the Democrats. Let's not lose focus on what the message of the video was.

  180. Caz Bailey says:

    What a shame that the rabbi chose to attack Sarah personally, instead of commenting on the real subject of the video – ie the egregious disenfranchisement of certain sections of the American voting public.

  181. Yori Yanover says:

    I actually bought Grey's Anatomy for my daughter and quizzed her on it. She wants to be a surgeon.

  182. Yori Yanover says:

    We're all depleting natural resources, it's called being alive. Life is about creativity and prosperity, and you don't get that from devoting yourself to not using resources. The rabbi's children could end up providing benefits of all kinds to millions — isn't it a good investment to support them? Your option spells little more than death and paralysis, I'm afraid.

    As to eating animals — we could all benefit from eating less meat and more green, leafy vegetables. But dubbing meat eaters immoral is a tad out there.

  183. Yori Yanover says:

    I think the line "stop being judgmental" is the finest piece of satirical expression I've read in a while. It's way up there with "nobody's generalizing."

  184. Are you really that self-deluded? You server people? You are a rabbi; you serve a religious ideology at the expense of people. You promote your own beliefs which is self-serving. You serve no actual value to other people. Sarah, however, does. She makes our lives a little bit better by making us laugh.

    Sarah spends life tearing it down? You are a rabbi. You spend your life telling people what they can and can't do to appease an imagined tyrannical despot in the sky. You get in people's way from flourishing. I can't imagine anything more aimed at tearing people down than what you do. Sarah is promoting progress, freedom, and flourishing. She is tearing down efforts to oppress people. What she is doing is honorable; what you are doing is not.

    Making public what is private? Making crude what is intimate? These are what you do fora living. What could be more private and intimate then one's own beliefs and moral character? Yet you publicly coerce people's beliefs to conform to yours. Sarah's efforts are satire. Yours are serious.

    Openly discussing sex is freeing. It doesn't lose potency. Quite the opposite, it makes people feel more comfortable and liberated about it. It is religions that make people feel dirty about sex. What is dirty is openly promoting such religious beliefs. It is oppressing. That is something everybody has experienced throughout history.

    You pray for Sarah to be a better person? She's ten times the person you are. She has chosen to do honorable work. You have chosen oppressive and self-serving work. She sheds light on hypocrisy and promotes personal growth, all while entertaining. You promote oppression, regression, and blatant sexism. You treat women as valueless unless they marry and have children. She tears down efforts to oppress others. You tear down personal freedoms while oppressing others.

    You are a bad person and should be ashamed of your behavior. of your arrogance, of your hypocrisy, and of your self-delusion. I'd pray for you to be better, but I know prayer is ineffective. Instead, I'll take solace in knowing that people like you are on significant decline and people like Sarah are becoming more common. Education and enlightenment truly do expose people like you and push your ideologies to the fringe. And we are better for it. Good riddance.

  185. Annoying when one orthodox Jew says something inappropriate and, as a consequence, a long line of people, usually nonreligious Jews, take this opportunity to say, "See. All orthodox Jews are ignorant, controlling, etc."

  186. Yori Yanover says:

    You haven't met my folks…

  187. Denver Tina says:

    Marc – Where did I say I believed I evolved from a poo-flinging monkey?

  188. Ben Rabizadeh says:

    Bravo Rabbi. We need more engagement with our Jewish brothers and sisters out there.

  189. Rabbi Rosenblatt,

    I'll remember the name "Rosenblatt Kosher Meats, LLC" and if I ever see your wares in my neck of the woods, I'll head straight to the manager of whatever deli or store is carrying them, and inform her or him that I will not patronize their establishment as long as they are selling meat from a sexist pig such as yourself. I'll then send copies of your sexist rant to the people I know in the area and tell them of my decision.

    I don't find the bulk of Ms. Silverman's routines to be amusing. I often find her crass, vulgar and downright annoying. She even ventures into racism with her routines.

    You however, are far more offensive than anything she has ever said. I have a lot of friends who have chosen to be child free and while I do not share their decision, I respect it. You have no right to dictate to others what will and will not make them happy. Your terror, your fear of women who choose not to have children shows me far more about your own, petty, terrified insecurities than you imagine.

  190. Bridget Joyce Boyle says:

    I hear you have an issue with this man's position?

  191. me " Why is it that so many self-identified atheists are obsessed with religion?"

    Because there are jackasses like you, bin-Laden and Pat Robertson trying to use religion to shape secular law. It takes a profound level of hypocrisy to deliberately antagonize others and then get on a high horse when the people you attack get offended or fight back.

  192. Ann M Thomas says:

    One comment. I am Jewish, I chose not to have children for medical reasons. Orthodox Jews told my husband not to marry me because I am "barren" and therefore he would be violating G-d's law by choosing me. Thank G-d he didn't listen to them!

  193. " Lest you forget Avram Avinu has multiple wives, as did Ya'akov. Monogamy was not a traditional Jewish value from Torah–but a later adopted one. I am certain you know this–you are a Rabbi."

    I think you give him more credit than he deserves. He yammers like a Christian Creationist Apologists, getting his theology more from wishful thinking and prejudice than scholarly study. Yaakov Rosenblatt is a butcher. Any Rabbinical qualifications he claims appear to be more in the service of his Kosher certification than studying the creator and his will.

  194. Ann M Thomas says:

    The interesting thing is that by halakah, Jewish women ARE NOT required to have children, but Jewish men are. I've never figured out if this is for real, or just an assumption by the MEN who wrote it all that "of course all women want babies so we don't have to make it required for them."

  195. "Rabbi Rosenblatt was respectful"

    That word does not mean what you think it means.

  196. Sharon Gibson says:

    So, he's disappointed that she's not married and knocked up. Really, it's none of his business.

  197. It would be as strident from me. I have a lot of child free friends and I'm sick and tired of sanctimonious busybodies sticking their snouts in others' business.

    I don't even LIKE Silverman's act. She always stuck me as a female Andrew Dice Clay, but less original. I'm defending her here not out of respect for her act or even the video that sparked the Rabbi's misogynistic babbling, but because she was attacked unfairly. I defended Romney among my friends when he was accused of scientific ignorance when he made the joke about opening airplane windows, and I'm defending Silverman here. This isn't about politics, but about a butcher getting up in arms because women are deciding to be something other than what he wants them to be.

  198. Shahaf John Klein "that is where you are wrong! i do not judge nor do i want to be judged."

    Lying about what you're doing when we can all SEE what you're doing won't win anyone over, it just reveals you as a sanctimonious pig.

  199. Jon Narkleson says:

    Steve Dallas that was vulgar and hilarious. I'm going to have to watch that flick again sometime soon.

    This is not the response I thought I'd end up typing having read these comments so far. But I think the right things have already been said by Ari Moss, D'va Grrl, Shaun Duke and Ivan Rott. Just to mention a few people that don't have their heads in dark dank places.

  200. Tamar Amidon says:

    I love her dad's kicking of ass too

  201. He clearly cares more about Sara's uterus than the rights of disenfranchised voters. You'd think someone from a culture persecuted for thousands of years would have a LITTLE empathy for the plight of persecuted minorities. He's also astoundingly short sighted. What exactly does he think will happen to Jews if the nation is taken over by Christian extremists? Is he really so foolish as to think being a conservative enough Jew will win him brownie points with Theocrats who consider him a "Christ Killer?"

  202. To Yori Yanover: so you equate "truth," and your obeisance to it, to 'popularity,' and how many of the common denominator flock to it? So one can assume you will also be 'repeating the truths,' of Jersey Shore, Male strip clubs and Pornography in the coming days? 'Marrying,' isn't a "natural inclination," it is a result of learned, accepted societal and cultural norms – we believe we should 'marry,' because our socio-religious mores tell us we should. Not because we're genetically predisposed re 'nature.' As for your negative comments about women's 'emancipation,' i.e., the literal freeing of a person from under the power of another – somehow I'm not surprised that you'd view freedom of personhood in such a negative light spewing that it's a construct in opposition to having a family. Your horrific words really do speak for themselves. You see women's 'emancipation,' as inherently opposed to marrying and having children – tell me, do you think slavery in general has been good for family and society throughout world history? I was under the impression that human beings who aren't slaves, are happier than the oppressed, violated, subjugated ones who live in fear. As for not marrying or reproducing being a 'waste?' How so? What kind of dangerous ignorance, produces such overwhelming arrogance in a person that they feel they can constitute what is a 'waste,' of another person's time and/or inclination? Why and how do YOU get to decide that the lives of Plato, Jane Austen, Beethoven, Joan of Arc, George Washington – or any of the millions throughout human history who did not marry and/or procreate, be they despots, saints, scientists or billionaire celebrities like Oprah are 'wasting,' their lives? There's a difference between you and most decent human beings Yori Hanover, I don't judge or quantify the personal lives, happiness, humanity, or contribution of others by what does or does not issue from their loins. You are a silly, stupid man. If in fact you are a representative for this publication, they should weep at this intolerant pedestrian exhibition of yours.

  203. Jordana Brown,

    If you're so happy with the Rabbi's view of what a woman's place should be, why are you daring express your opinion before men? You, as a woman, have no standing over men in matters of religion, so why do you dare speak here?

    Could it be because, regardless of what the Rabbi thinks, you believe you have a right to voice your opinion?

    It's ironic that by voicing support for the misogynist butcher, you are ideologically demonstrating solidarity not with the Rabbi, but with the woman he is criticizing. You have more in common with Miss Silverman than with the Rabbi, even if you profess to adhere to beliefs that would have you subjugated.

  204. Marc Gottlieb Riiiight. Wanting people who have the legal right to vote to actually GET to vote is "shilling for the Democrats." We have to make sure only the "Right" people have the right to vote, don't we? We can't have any of those pesky liberals, moderates or minorities voting.

    By the way, have you looked into Willard Romney's actual legislative history? I know a lot of Democrats who see HIM as the more liberal candidate, except when it comes to reproductive rights. Some of them are more concerned with how Mittens will balloon the deficit. He likes spending money as if a fresh shipment will arrive from Heaven every morning.

  205. Yori Yanover Is her yardstick any more or less valid than the Rabbi's arrogant proclamation that a woman can't be happy unless she's having children?

  206. Yori Yanover Let me get this straight, your yardstick is Hollywood?

    Have you LOOKED at how Jews are usually portrayed in Hollywood? If you're going to use chick flicks as an illustration of the natural state of women, don't be surprised when racists use Hollywood to claim the natural state of a Jew is to be a neurotic mess who seduces their adopted daughter. And don't you dare criticize them for it, because they'll just be using your own logic.

  207. Bridget Joyce Boyle Yes, yes I do. He took issue with a video made by a female comic and spent a good deal of this "response" criticizing not the video, but her personal decision to remain childless. It's the typical "You're not a REAL woman if you're not married and pregnant" response. It's infantilizing misogyny, dismissing her not because of the content of her arguments but for the anatomy between her legs. It's offensive, sexist and disgusting.

  208. Scott Edmiston says:

    Sarah says shocking things and hopes that her audience thinks they are funny.

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  241. Miles Taylor says:

    Easy to see where she comes by her degrading worldview.

  242. Miles Taylor says:

    Easy to see where she comes by her degrading worldview.

  243. Hali Um William says:

    I love you, Donald Silverman. (And Sarah is funny, passionate, successful, and super smart – how is that not Jewish??)

  244. Anonymous says:

    Donald Silverman Well I guess you are the explanation of why your daughter is such ****.

  245. Anonymous says:

    Donald Silverman Well I guess you are the explanation of why your daughter is such ****.

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  249. If the JP had been held accountable for what it published for the last 40 odd years…

  250. Ellis Weiner says:

    Dear Rabbi:

    I like your writing style. I like the short sentences. They speak of directness. They speak of a simplicity of message. True, there is the touch of condescension about them, as though one is lecturing a child. But why not? Because you obviously feel like you *are* lecturing a child.

    And yet you are not. Lecturing a child. You are, rather, presuming to tell a perfectly intelligent (and nervy) adult woman how she should live. Commenters below are aghast at this. But they are wrong to be. Because you are an Orthodox Jew, which is the same thing as being an orthodox Muslim or Catholic, except it is Jewish.

    Your faith, like theirs, is in the existence and perfection of a supernatural being created by a desert tribe thousands of years before people had ever heard of the Pacific Ocean, the circulatory system, or the tomato. Your faith, on the basis of which you presume to lecture Sarah Silverman about "human dignity," calls for the rigid segregation (in shul, in life) between men and woman; the annihilation of various men, women, and children in Biblical times, the stoning to death of recalcitrant sons, and the sale of daughters. One could go on. (And, indeed, one has: Cf. The Big Jewish Book for Jews, by Ellis Weiner and Barbara Davilman.)

    To the extent that you do not practice these things–to the extent that you do not have slaves, or wear more than one kind of fabric at a time–you are just another compromiser with modernity, like the rest of us, and have no basis for patronizingly telling Ms. Silverman how to live.

    No doubt your faith is truly felt. So is everyone else's. No doubt you believe that they are wrong and you are right. So do they. No, but you presumably *know* you are right, whereas they–the rest of humanity through six thousand years of history–were and are misguided. That's what they think and thought, too.

    So do yourself a favor. Leave the Sarah Silvermans of the world alone. Confine your preaching, the dispensing of your wisdom, and the publication of your venerable prose style, to those who actually think you know what you're talking about. To your literal, and figurative, flock.

  251. Marc, I read the article. I'm responding to the butcher's arrogance and misogyny. Perhaps you would do better in life if you tried to comprehend the objections of the people you offend, rather than dismissing them with straw man insults.

  252. Marc, I read the article. I'm responding to the butcher's arrogance and misogyny. Perhaps you would do better in life if you tried to comprehend the objections of the people you offend, rather than dismissing them with straw man insults.

  253. Marc, I read the article. I'm responding to the butcher's arrogance and misogyny. Perhaps you would do better in life if you tried to comprehend the objections of the people you offend, rather than dismissing them with straw man insults.

  254. Shahaf John Klein says:

    matthew, again, name calling, very intellectual and thought provoking. you are amazing

  255. Shahaf John Klein says:

    matthew, again, name calling, very intellectual and thought provoking. you are amazing

  256. Mark, I give you a 2/10 for that trolling attempts. The comments are too boilerplate straw man to be believable. If you want to honestly make people think you support the butcher, you need to put some effort into your trolling and make it look like you're actually THINKING instead of just being a mindless, unthinking cheerleader.

  257. Shahaf John Klein "you are amazing"

    Thank you.

  258. Shahaf,

    You are not offended by a man using religion to dictate the place another human being should have in society, regardless of what that other human being wants?

    Well then, I guess you won't object to what role Mahmoud Ahmadinejad thinks YOU should have in society. He is, after all, only voicing his religious views when he discusses Israel and the Jewish people.

  259. Mike Miller says:

    To be fair, the quality of his writing suggests that he may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer…

  260. Mike Miller says:

    To be fair, the quality of his writing suggests that he may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer…

  261. Research is not his strong suit.

  262. Bryan Bean says:

    This was a very kind essay. I hope that it can be received as such. It would require a modicum of humility, however. That's the special ingredient.

  263. Joel B Levin says:

    Mr Rosenblatt was not respectful. He merely limited himself to a more socially acceptable vocabulary.

  264. Baron Chat says:

    rabbi! you're just angry they took a little too much off your pee pee at your briss, aren't you? why don't you go back to your daily job of selling kosher sausage, wearing a frock and blowing 2 month-olds after you genitally mutilate them?

  265. Anonymous says:

    Hey Rabbi, love the article. Just one little thing; all I ask, respectfully, is that you not use words like respect, tolerance, and human dignity in your efforts. Because doing so is a lie.

  266. Anonymous says:

    SCHMUCK!

    When you are so out of touch with reality…and place women behind "curtain number one"…don't you wonder why young people are abandoning our heritage?

    I am a 70 something member of a "Traditional Shul"…meaning I'm a goy to you. I sit next to my wife and hear her beautiful voice in prayer…."oy vey is meir…a shonda".

    I LOVE Sarah and what she represents…free speech and freedom to be a person of her own choosing.

    Come on out of the middle ages and smell the fresh air.

    Michael Marinoff

    Philadelphia.

  267. Eric Miller says:

    It is a blessed shame that she chooses to waste her life being nasty and uncouth.

  268. Jacob Alperin-Sheriff says:

    If Sarah Silverman supported Romney, the Rabbi would never have written this! (he attended the GOP national convention, apparently for Santorum but nevertheless supporting Romney)

  269. Daniel Brezenoff says:

    As you can see, I am mainly quoting MAIMONIDES. You know who he was, right? I am assume so since, by your tone you seem to think you are an expert on Judaism and I'm some kind of half-witted tool. So you must know.

    Beyond that, I'm writing what I think can be considered common knowledge, fairly uncontroversial, to any educated Jew. Nothing to do with my feelings at all, just matters of fact.

    Anything I've written you want to take issue with? Something incorrect?

    Meanwhile, the author's claim that monogamy is "the most basic of tenets which Judaism has taught the world " is backed up by precisely bupkes. Would you care to defend it?

  270. Jacob Alperin-Sheriff says:

    Mr. Gottlieb, how dare you call the diaper-hurling Shabbos/tznius activists in Mea Shearim, Geula, Bet Shemesh "poo-flinging monkeys"; those are your fellow Jews, sir.

  271. Helen Haire says:

    What a loser. Skating on the edge of his daughter's fame.

  272. Jacob Alperin-Sheriff says:

    Chas v'shalom the Rabbi would wear shatnez

  273. Mark Emery says:

    Like the hate-filled comments thrown against the rabbi?

    Please. You want elevated discourse, act like adults.

    Instead, we have people calling him hateful things, simply because he *gasps* believes what he preaches.

  274. Allow me to take a moment to savor the absurdity of a Jew pimping for a Conservative Catholic. I often wonder at the sanity of the Conservative Jews supporting the more extremist Teabaggers, given what men like that say about Jews when they don't think any are around.

    I remember a pastor giving a "children's sermon" about how Christians needed to support a Jewish controlled Israel as it was a precondition for Christ's return. Near the end he said "It doesn't matter what happens to the Jews there, the Bible tells us they will come to Christ after the Rapture. Many will die and go to Hell, but we need Israel to be controlled by Jews, because the Antichrist will be a Jew."

    I got out of the more conservative movements the first time I developed a crush on a Jewish girl. It's funny how you can no longer see a person as a tool to be used and discarded when you desperately want to date her.

    I'll give Santorum this. I suspect he might actually see Jews as humans. This does give him something of a moral pedestal above many of his peers.

  275. Believing what you preach does not make your views less offensive or more realistic.

    I was called a "race traitor" for marrying a Jewish woman and told that I should get a paternity test of any child we had because "No Jew would birth a half Goy baby. She'll f**k a Jew behind your back to get a baby."

    Was the racist coworker who said those thing to me justified simply because she honestly believed what she was saying? Should I have not been offended just because she was telling me what she really believed?

  276. Dave Gellis says:

    Rosenblatt, you are a despicable parasite, enjoying the benefits of the work of ambitious, intelligent people like Sarah and others, while you wallow in superstitious dogma from the past.

  277. But he said he worked for a living. How does that make him a parasite?

  278. He didn't say he was a mohel, you ignorant anti-Semite.

  279. Mark Emery says:

    Yeah, comparing those comments to the thoughtful words of the rabbi above…c'mon.

  280. Saying "to the extent that you do not have slaves, or wear more than one kind of fabric at a time–you are just another compromiser with modernity, like the rest of us, and have no basis for patronizingly telling Ms. Silverman how to live" merely reinforces the fact that you really don't know what you're talking about, as the several things you've mentioned have a Mosaic and rabbinic tradition spanning thousands of years that explains how to properly, or why we no longer, follow those practices.

  281. Actually, what she did with a dog between her legs in the Adelson video was offensive, sexist and disgusting.

  282. Baron Chat says:

    the biggest, most ignorant anti-semites on this article have been douchebags like rosenblatt and your ilk, much like some of the worst anti-christians today are born-agains who picket funerals & spread hatred in the name of christ. but go ahead, cry "anti-semite" when someone from your tribe gets called out for being a gruesome, misogynist dinosaur from medieval times. i'm sure it's a card you've played your entire life.

    but at least you do seem to agree by omission of argument that circumcision is genital mutilation and abuse. so if what you're saying is that it isn't part of this rabbi's job description, then i stand corrected and apologise: i didn't mean to confuse him with the man who sucked the blood off your son's penis after he was genitally mutilated, while you stood and watched with pride. so go **** yourself, marc. through a hole in a sheet. or is that just some other kind of jew you don't truck with?

  283. Assad Boustani says:

    The Abrahamic attitude toware women and sexuality as emobidied in the attitudes of Judaism, Christianity and Islam are responsible for much if not most of what is wrong with the world today.

    You "Sir" promulgate this non-sense from a bully-pulpit of someone that some would be confused as having an informed and educated perspective.

    SHAME SHAME SHAME!

  284. Hal Switkay says:

    Rabbi, yashar koach. It is shocking to see the insane level of vitriolic over-the-top anti-Semitism, ignorance, disrespect, and contempt among ethnic Jews. I am sorry you have been such a target – and on Jewish Press, of all places – just for upholding Torah. However, Jews with such values as we see on this page are declining in numbers, while those with true reverence of Heaven are increasing. G-d will not be mocked. You do have to wonder about these hateful people who spend their time reading Jewish Press – perhaps they are looking for something substantial to fill their empty souls, and I hope they will find it soon.

  285. And therein lies your problem. Because you agree with his sentiments you don't understand why a woman who has been repeatedly told how "wrong" her decisions are would be offended.

    Would you be offended if I piously lectured you on how you'd be a whole man, a complete person if you stopped being so stiff-necked and accepted Christ? Do you think the "Rabbi" would take some offense to me smugly lecturing him on how he's deliberately denying the natural state of a man, being subservient to Jesus Christ?

  286. Adam Kraemer says:

    "Human beings have many acquaintances and fewer friends, but only one spouse. Judaism celebrates the monogamous, intimate relationship with a spouse as the prototype of the intimate relationship with God."

    Ummm…aren't you named for a patriarch who had more than one wife? Not that I'm advocating polygamy in this day and age, but it does kinda shoot a hole in your claim there, doesn't it?

  287. Ellis Weiner says:

    Of course. There's always an explanation, or a correction, or a tradition that reverses the previous tradition, or a reason for a qualification. All–in all religions– are attempts to reconcile beliefs and values from a time of ignorance with knowledge or more humane values from a time of less ignorance. Two cheers for being allowed to wear cotton-polyester. Zero cheers for lecturing Silverman about her proper role.

  288. Susan Moore says:

    weird how you keep addressing me… I am not Sarah's sister nor a rabbi. But I am outraged at a rabbi publicly counselling and admonishing an individual. Plainly, his intent is not to counsel or admonish her in a meaningful way, but to take a cheap shot at her for his own political purposes.

  289. Shahaf John Klein says:

    but when people who support romney are called racists? and when blacks support romney they are called uncle toms? there is much more name calling that comes from the left. lets not kid ourselves. the left can say anything and get a pass from the media.

  290. Shaun Duke I thought you summarized a complicated issue in a very eloquent and easy to understand way.

    I still believe that employing kindness, empathy, and civility is of the greatest benefit WHEN we are approached without kindness, empathy, and civility. That's the ideal to which we should all aspire. But it's difficult, and in our society we hold the instigator of a dispute to a higher standard than those who react with similar strategies.

  291. Helen Haire I totally agree. What a LOSER! Coming on this board just to comment on a post directed at one of his daughters. Doesn't he have anything better to do with his time? Leave these comments to people who don't know Sarah and have a real reason to be on here–like undergrads at LSU.

  292. 1) The Torah isn't a technical manual; that's why we have the Gemara, like you mentioned. The fact that it doesn't deal with the 'procedures' of marriage is a non sequitir. You seem to think that it is somehow lessened in its importance in Judaism. What about the Arba Turim? Marriage and divorce comprises 25% of that code of Jewish law.

    2) The Rambam's Articles of Faith are what a Jew is required to believe in "with perfect faith," meaning, irrespective of your inability to prove or disprove any of these things, you are still required to believe them as statements of Truth.

    3) When a baby boy is born, we say "As he is brought into the Covenant, so may he be brought to Torah, to the Chupah, and to Good Deeds." We say something similar at a baby girl's naming. So yeah, I'd say that marriage is a basic tenet of our faith.

    4) The author wrote "the most basic of tenets which Judaism has taught the world – that the monogamous relationship is the most meaningful one and that a happy marriage is the key to wholesomeness" which is not the same as teaching the world monogamy. So I don't have to refute your statement or defend what the rabbi didn't say. You, on the other hand, have to read what is written.

    [While polygamy was permitted to Jews by the Torah, the ability to properly maintain a religious, polygamous household was no longer tenable, so it was forbidden by Rabbinic decree. We also don't have prophecy, the recipe for Temple showbread, and plenty of other things that have simply ceased or were forbidden. Polygamy is still practiced, but I believe you have to live in certain remote parts of Africa. My point is that in the modern era, for all intents and purposes, marriage and monogamy are interchangeable.]

  293. Jacob Alperin-Sheriff says:

    Better, would Mr. Emery be offended if we pointed out that it would be best for him to stop being a Christian, as it's a little close to idol worship (Islam wouldn't be so bad, at least if he behaves like a civilized dude, but Christianity, not so cool, period).

  294. Miles Taylor A'Men, Brother Miles. If G-d wanted to hear her opinion he would have made her a man. I can't stand these uppity women. "I think I should have an opinion." "I'd like equal pay." "Don't stone me for being raped by my uncle."

    What a bunch of whiners.

  295. Alan Rockman says:

    Hey Donald,

    You need a bucket of soap to clean your foul-mouth and that of your loser daughter.

    Do you support Obama too, knucklehead? If so, have you even bothered to look at his record, his associations with anti-semites, his hiring of anti-Semites to key administration positions, the sorry record of 4 straight years of Israel animus and groveling towards Islamists? Have you?

    Maybe you and little Sarah are candidates for a burka. Under Islam she won't get to do that "scissors" routine with anybody. She could ask Neda Soltan about it, but sadly Neda was murdered by those whom Obama would appease – she could still ask Lara Logan, but she might have to deal with an intelligent woman who talks common sense, and Sarah's unable (you too) to understand that.

    As said, you deserve a bucket of soap to clean out your mouth, Donnie. And tell Sarah to stop shilling for Ovomit and being a loser. Period.

  296. Shahaf John Klein says:

    ann, just because orthodox jews told your husband this does not mean that orthodoxy supports their views. there is a huge difference between orthodox jews and orthodoxy. judaism is a beautiful thing, too bad that some jews make it seem as a bad thing..

  297. Kaj Lydestad says:

    Donald, you're awesome. If only more people weren't so afraid their "unshakeable faith" could be damaged by humour.

  298. While you may not like what he says about the God of the Torah, it doesn't make it any less true. There is nothing 'slanderous' about what he said. Truth hurts, deal with it ;

  299. Anonymous says:

    Awesome letter. Unfortunately, most of the respondents don't get it.

  300. Marc Gottlieb "Actually, what she did with a dog between her legs in the Adelson video was offensive, sexist and disgusting."

    So? Does the "Rabbi" get a free pass to be an offensive, judgmental, misogynistic jackass because he frames his attack on women using an unsavory individual?

    By that logic, anti-Semites should get a free pass as long as they mock Jews by using Woody Allen and mention his having married his ex-wife's adopted daughter.

    Is that REALLY the can of worms you want to open, giving horrible people a free pass to attack others as long as they filter their attack through someone who did something unlikable?

  301. Anonymous says:

    I'm a dad (born a Jew) with a daughter as mouthy as Sarah – she simply chose to become a surgeon instead of a comedian. She chose to have children. Her choices. After I read Rabbi's open letter I understood how Sarah's dad felt. Can we pick at how he went about it? Sure. But the sentiment expressed in his last sentence is shared by all dads. Was it vulgar? Perhaps to some. But Rabbi's letter, however superficially civil in language, is a deep affront and fundamentally uncivil in that it presumed to assess her motives ("you have latched on to politics because you are searching for something to build") without ever sitting down to discuss her motives with her and then goes on to knock down the straw man he set up. Sarah probably laughed when she read Rabbi's letter – it's the stuff from which she can create more material. But her dad is probably not a professional comedian. He was being a dad. Good on you, Mr. Silverman.

  302. Marc Gottlieb Exactly. If you don't support a view that your institution has, you don't speak out about it or try to affect change. You deal with it quietly, and you keep it to yourself. You're probably to blame anyway, since it doesn't seem to be a problem for anyone else. I'm sick of her, those "victims" at Penn State, and those Catholic altar boys. If you can't handle the rape, don't take communion.

  303. Marc Gottlieb I can't help but laugh whenever I see this type of response. The thought that practices such as stoning children or subjecting women is somehow right for ANY point in history is completely insane.

  304. Shahaf John Klein says:

    jason, the left intolerant of me. i had a romney sign on my fence, hence the word had cause my fence was burnt down by very tolerant people. when blacks are not leaning to the left they are uncle toms and traders. when the left doesnt agree with the right they start to insult and call names and give labels. have you listen to msnbc lately? when harry reid said and i quote" i dont understand how can any latins vote republicans" that is very tolerant. when celebrities call republicans and tea partiers nazis….c'mon who is tolerant

  305. Alan Rockman says:

    Interesting how all of the Liberals here rush to the defense of a foul-mouthed loser girl. None of them took umbrage when Sarah offered to "scissor" Sheldon Adelson, a man whom she and her equally worthless dad aren't fit to shine his shoes (but they will buss Obama's rear)

    I am not religious, but there's a few things called common sense and morality, and if that interferes with gay rights and a few other causes Libs goosestep for and vote in anti-semites like Obama, well too bad.

    The Rabbi was right on the gist of his comments, and I have a sneaking suspicion he was also right with the inference that Sarah can't get a man. Whether her politics and/or crudeness as factors, ??? But a spade is a spade, and Sarah is a loser. Maybe if some of you oh-so-tolerant – NOT – Libs got a bit of the Rabbi's wisdom and common sense it might grow on you. Then again, you are much more intolerant than the Rabbi you claim is. Don't forget to repudiate God and Jerusalem – Sarah did, with her support of the Jew-hater.

  306. My mistake; I thought you meant "Dad" literally, as he had mentioned another daughter who was a rabbi. You meant the royal "Dad" :-) I stand corrected.

    I'm not sure what political agenda he is trying to advance. Sara, on the other hand, clearly espouses a political agenda, and the issue he has is with the use of a phraseology that clearly has Jewish connotations. And that she did so in a public forum (YouTube for crying out loud) opens her up to public comment.

  307. Ahh, the old "Well they do it too!" defense.

    So much for the moral high ground.

    Besides, I'm not aware of any sane people calling people racists for supporting Romney. The Birthers are largely racists using a conspiracy theory as a proxy for their racism, but not all Romney supporters are Birthers.

    I'm not aware of anyone calling African Americans Uncle Toms for supporting Romney. I think it's an odd thing to do, supporting a man who doesn't believe blacks had souls until 1978, but conservatives are left with few options this time around.

    The irony is Obama is a more conservative spender than Romney and more conservative on a lot of social issues, at least if you judge them by their actions in office instead of their promises on the campaign trail.

  308. Alan Rockman says:

    And I am disgusted with you, Yakla…Just go and support the loser girl who spews filth and loves the anti-semite and Israel-hater Obama.

  309. Alan Rockman says:

    Matt C Colgan – you're a mentally challenged leftist moron.

  310. And what, pray tell, has Obama actually done or said to justify the label of "anti-semite and Israel-hater"?

  311. Shahaf John Klein you should look up "Confirmation Bias." It's clouding your judgement rather harshly.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

  312. Shilling. Yes. Referencing Obama, using a clip against a Republican senator. Appealing the plight of traditionally Democratic-voting groups. Shilling. Like I said.

    Sara conveniently neglected to mention that one can get a non-driver's ID card from the DMV. I'm sure other truths were glossed over to fit the narrative. Personally, I don't understand why voter fraud isn't a bipartisan issue.

    As for spending, Romney's got some mighty big shoes to fill if he's going to compete at Obama's levels.

  313. Shilling. Yes. Referencing Obama, using a clip against a Republican senator. Appealing the plight of traditionally Democratic-voting groups. Shilling. Like I said.

    Sara conveniently neglected to mention that one can get a non-driver's ID card from the DMV. I'm sure other truths were glossed over to fit the narrative. Personally, I don't understand why voter fraud isn't a bipartisan issue.

    As for spending, Romney's got some mighty big shoes to fill if he's going to compete at Obama's levels.

  314. Shahaf John Klein says:

    wow

  315. Alan Rockman says:

    Rabbi,

    Funny how all of those screaming at you never said a word when Sarah made that crude video, made her comments about marriage, and enthusiastically supported the first overt anti-Semite to occupy the White House.

    Sarah is a loser. And those who smear you, the ignorant Libs who are once-a-year Jews and who are going to vote for Sarah's anti-Semite friend are pretty much the same. Especially a daddy who never taught her right from wrong, or to condemn anti-Semites, not call for "great schlepps" on their behalf.

  316. Where in the Torah does it say a woman will not be complete without children? The cultural bias of the time of a "barren" woman being shamed is illustrated and exploited by God, but then slavery is also endorsed. Have you taken a good hard look at what the Torah says about how people should be living?

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1595553673/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1595553673&linkCode=as2&tag=slatmaga-20

    How can you justify holding a woman to a Torah inspired description of gender roles when you yourself, in flagrant disregard for the very Torah you claim to follow, are clean shaven?

  317. Hannah Stander Riederer says:

    There is no voter fraud. Read a real congregational Rabbi speaking on the voter ID issue: http://mzion.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/YK-5773-Dont-Stand-Idly-By-Votr-ID-Rabbi-Adler.pdf

  318. Like this guy has a right to pass judgment on anybody. Why don't you educate Sheldon Adelson on what it takes to be a righteous Jew?

  319. Hannah Stander Riederer says:

    And disagreeing with someone politically is no reason to publicly attack their personal life choices on when or if they should have children. Seriously.

  320. Marc Gottlieb "As for spending, Romney's got some mighty big shoes to fill if he's going to compete at Obama's levels."

    You should look up what he actually did as governor of Massachusetts. Imagine "The Big Dig" replicated hundreds of times over across the land. Willard will have no trouble outspending Obama. But hey, fool yourself and remain ignorant of what the man actually DOES. Useful Idiots are in high demand in politics.

  321. The usual flip side to the argument that God isn't real is evolution.
    If you have another theory, then by all means, share.

    Nice try, Jacob. Next time leave Teh Funny to Sarah.

  322. Hannah Stander Riederer says:

    Lets look at some numbers: The Minnesota Secretary of State has identified 200,000 registered voters who do not have appropriate ID. They probably do have ID, and it may even have a photo on it, but it is not valid government]issued Photo ID with current name and address and an expiration dateh and therefore unacceptable for voting. Who are they?
    . They are 25% of African]American Minnesotans of voting age. This is unmistakably racial discrimination, and illegal according to the Voting Rights Act.
    . They are our future leaders: 20% of college students donft have ID with their current address. Statistics show that early voting experiences influence life long civic engagement.

    Do we really want to turn our young voters away?
    . They are our parents and grandparents: 20% of elderly Minnesotans have expired ID.
    . They are 15% of people making less than $35,000 a year, and the percentage rises as the annual income goes down.

  323. Shahaf John Klein says:

    matthew,you are putting words in my mouth. i never said i was not offended or that i agree with religion dictating anything. i believe that religion is a blue print/manual of life but i am more against a person dictating whether i have to follow the religion. god gave us free will and the right to choose if we want to follow or believe his words. what got me here is that the way the rabbi was attacked was unreal, you can diasagree but do it respectfully but it seems that most of the people on here do not know what that means

  324. Your views on women are repulsive and give a bad name to Orthodox Jewry. And your myopia saddens me deeply. Dr. Robert S. Berger

  325. Adam Kraemer says:

    "frankly not much jewish about reform. and i am not ortho reform is a sept religion now. they should just be honest about it but they aren't." – John P Center
    I find this comment quite possibly more offensive than those made to Sarah in the rabbi's original letter. First of all, no one should ever, ever equate "religious" with "observant." I believe very strongly in the God of my people. I also believe that as human beings, we have the inalienable right to decide for ourselves which of the mitzvot to follow. Now, I might discover upon death that I was wrong, but it does not make me even an iota less Jewish for choosing the path I have. Secondly, this can only have been written by someone who has never attended a Reform service in his life. Yes, we eschew a number of aspects of the traditional. But our prayers to God are no less heartfelt nor is our belief in Torah no less legitimate. Third, what makes Reform Judaism, "a sept religion"? Our belief in Jesus? – we don't. Our denial of Tanakh and Talmud as central teachings of our ancestors? – we embrace them. Our shunning the bris? Our ending the rite of Bar Mitzvah? Our lack of support for Israel? – as Reform Jews, we do none of these things. Yes, I drive on Shabbat and do not follow the laws of Kashrut. But do not presume to question my commitment to Judaism, nor my legitimacy as a member of the Jewish faith, nor that of any member of the Reform movement. It's ignorant and unseemly. We Jews should be better than that.

  326. Ike Vinpa says:

    Rabbi, what's the biblical punishment for raping a woman? – I understand the punishment is that the man must marry the woman… for her protection.

  327. Beth Greene says:

    You sound just as smug and self righteous as the Rabbi.

  328. Alan Rockman says:

    Look in the mirror when you say "douchebag", clown.

  329. Is that really the best you can come up with? Personal attacks, insults, and projecting your own unresolved paedorastic issues?

    Here, let me help you with how to have an argument:

    1) Baby boys are eight days old when given a brit. Not two months. That's ignorant.

    2) There is no sexual stimulation or fellatio performed on the baby, as both are impossible at that age. So no one's blowing anyone. That's also ignorant.

    3) Mutilation implies damaging. The penis is not damaged, the foreskin is simply removed from the glans. More ignorance.

    4) Dinosaurs lived in paleolithic times. The medieval times were generally recognized as being in the 5th to 15th centuries. That's right, more ignorant drivel. [Of course, dinosaurs aren't real, but I'm playing along].

    5) You know nothing of my life, you simply assume things and base your arguments on them. More ignorance.

    6) Hole in the sheet. Yeah, okay. This particular one I'll let you google on your own.

    7) Your vitriolic spew twisting the beliefs I hold in some pathetic attempt to berate the author and me is anti-Semitic.

    So, Baron, your homework is to visit the Internet and learn something.

  330. Geoffrey Murry says:

    Well done!

  331. Ruth Massey says:

    I usually find Silverman pretty funny. But I support her decision not to have kids. Do we really want her in charge of raising a child??? :-)

  332. Baron Chat says:

    i learn something every time i come to the internet and see dip****s like you, marc. i learn that the world is full of disgusting people who've used religion to justify bigotry and hatred, and that for the most part, the people who do that are usually frightened, terrified children, who climb on self-made pedestals to try and frighten other children.

  333. Ari, how about David and Solomon. Talk about wives and concubines! Great example for the kids.

  334. Lisa Holton says:

    Whoa. This guy writes like a Promise Keeper.

  335. Jacob Alperin-Sheriff says:

    God is real, but what does that have to do with evolution or your insult of the charedi community. BTW I'm still waiting for your apology; I will relay it immediately to Harav Yosef Chumros, Av Beis Din at the Edah Chareidis; you may be able to avoid cherem if you act quickly

  336. Noah Pawliger says:

    Michael, I love what you wrote, and please keep in mind, that as much of a disaster as this article is, and it IS a disaster, b/c who gave Rosenblatt the right to represent all of orthodoxy? I would like to add that in Judaism there are no labels… labels are for bottles, not Jews… Donald also seemingly forgot that, so both parties are guilty… Donald, your family is amazing and brings tons of nachas to the One Above, through their pursuits in their Judaism as long as they are growing….

    One thing you should know, the Lubavitcher Rebbe insisted that if orthodox people in Israel who are eligable age for the army are not protecting the land by learning in Yeshiva, they HAVE to be in the army… hence the number of Chabadnikim serving today… M.orthodox aren't the only ones…. just wanted to add two cents…

  337. Shahaf John Klein says:

    baron, why cant you argue and voice an opinion without calling people names?

  338. Jonathan Rothberg says:

    Puh-leeze. He is living in a world where he defines Judaism the way he wants to, and criticizes her for being Jewish in a way he doesn't. He's allowed to do that. He's further allowed to believe, as many if not most Orthodox Jews and I imagine the vast majority of Orthodox rabbis, that the greatest things a woman can aspire to are marriage and children. By his standard, Sarah is not Jewish. Neither am I. I imagine we're both OK with that. As long as he keeps his 17th century opinions confined to a website I'll never read unless Matt talks about it, I don't much care what he thinks.
    Disclaimer: I DO find much of Sarah's work amusing…and vulgar, crass, and offensive. Humor that doesn't push boundaries and risk offending many is fine for Gallagher. Real comics piss people off. Nothing in the Adelson video was 1/1,000,000th as offensive as that ****ing douche wad trying to buy this election. Scissoring dogs doesn't even come close.

  339. Margalit Rosenthal says:

    This is incredibly sexist – and shameful that the author is using Judaism as a guise to cover the fact that he can't stand that Silverman simply does not reflect his own personal idea of femininity and how Jewish women should live and behave.

  340. Melissa Needles says:

    Yes, a truly beautiful critique of this debate. I couldn't help but look at the article and ask myself "why is this happening? why purposely create enemies out of indifference?". There isn't objectivity in this letter and I don't feel it can serve its purpose with the dangerous mix of conservative social criticisms labeled as Jewish messages. I think it was wrong for the Press to publish this letter as it offends my personal view that I feel does not come into contact with Jewish faith views. Silverman has offended your readers and indeed they have a right to express their view of her work, but how hypocritical and truly disappointing is it to come back at her with criticisms that hurt all women and men. That is not what Judaism is about, at least not in the house that I worship in. Have a little decency and utilize the offending tools Silverman has given you in her activities, do not create ones for her that offend even more people. And to call her a parasite was the last thing I would ever want to hear from the leader of my congregation. It cuts just as much if not more than profanity, honestly.

  341. Luis Munoz says:

    The greatest evil is monotheism. From a barbaric Bronze Age text known as the Old Testament, 3 anti-human religions have evolved. These are sky-god religions, patriarchal, hence the loathing of woman for more than 2,000 years in those countries afflicted by the "omnipotent father" and his earthly male delegates.

  342. Hipster Jew says:

    Just because someone is a comedian and a public figure doesn't mean their entire private life is open for public scrutiny. Sarah Silver, as a comedian, has a public onstage persona and a private offstage one. Obviously neither you or the Rabbi care enough to make this distinction. Also, when someone decides they are a moral beacon to the world, they deserve to become scrutinized (for example, see: EVERY Rabbi). Sarah Silverman has never claimed to be a moral beacon.

    Also, you are a blowhard.

    Also, the Rabbi's political agenda includes: 1) Doesn't think gays deserve equal rights http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/opinions/my-beef-with-chick-fil-a/2012/08/29/

    2) Is okay with women in religious communities being abused and mistreated (and I can only assume protecting child molesters, as long as no one finds out).

    http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/opinions/what-satmar-chassidim-can-teach-the-author-who-trashed-them/2012/02/29/

    But by all means, please keep defending the Rabbi so zealously. Maybe you know him personally and maybe in real life he isn't such a shonde fur di goyim.

  343. Baron Chat says:

    you might want to ask your friend above that same question, shahaf, or did his own brand of name-calling fall outside the field of vision your spiritual blinders allow?

    fyi, rosenblatt did a lot worse than call silverman a "name". he wrote a 2 page diatribe full of misogyny, ignorance, presumption, and frankly just grotesque, hateful and condescending bull****. accusations of "name-calling" are what people do when their arguments have proven to be bunk, and they have no leg to stand on. now, i realise you haven't made an argument here, shahaf, and so this isn't directed at you specifically, but rather at the broad spirit of crying foul when someone calls an ignorant, under-educated, patriarchal misogynist something along the lines of a flaccid dick; specifically marc gottlieb and rabbi rosenblatt in this context.

    in the meantime, me calling gottlieb a pejorative or two isn't nearly even as big a problem as the fact that the guy whose back you're trying to get, doesn't believe in evolution. you might want to try and convince him to attend one of your high school science classes.

  344. Fred Axelrod says:

    Alan Rockman, are you familiar with Exodus 20:16? Evidently not.

  345. Kevin Jones says:

    To this cowardly "me" person that Mr. Silverman has correctly identified as "*******": You should be so lucky to have a daughter like Sarah or come from a family who would seek to defend you from cowards like yourself.

  346. Dave Lundy says:

    What a sanctimonious ass.

  347. Dave Lundy says:

    Or should I have said, Rabbi sanctimonious ass. Known some of those…

  348. J.j. Adler says:

    Jordana, I don't think Orthodox jews values in general are being begrudged here. Yes, he's free to opine some variation on the old, unpopular chestnut "a woman's place is barefoot and pregnant…" But it's the yenting he's doing that is most unappealing. Why is he randomly denigrating Sarah Silverman's life choices? Tearing someone down for no reason (and unprovoked) is always obnoxious. Doing the same to someone who totally doesn't care about your point of view is self-indulgent and kind of pathetic.

  349. Philip Dorian says:

    Check out her dad's response

  350. Will Norton says:

    There is something to be said for all that has been lost to secularism.

  351. Mr. Silverman, I just wanted to drop you a line and comment about how wonderful you are. I wish I'd had a dad like you. Are you looking to adopt? lol. Anyway, the **** has hit the fan over this, since Huff. Post picked up the story, and now it's all over Facebook. Good luck to you all, and stay strong. I know you will. :-)

  352. Marc Gottlieb i don't really care. I am aware that my daughter will make a man hard from time to time. Maybe many at a time. As long as she is living her life by her terms I have nothing to say about what she does. She may make some women wet too. All I can do is make sure she knows she is loved and supported in whatever she may do. In order to help insure that she is happy in her lifes path is make sure she is a critical thinker and loves who she is.

  353. Marc Gottlieb also it was a joke that may have some truth to it.

  354. what you believe to be a hateful thing may not be. There you go projecting again.

  355. I find it interesting that the "evil temptress" who figures prominently in Abrahamic religions seems to be able to overpower the reason of the male. Talk about not taking responsibility for your life and choices.

  356. Walter Levy says:

    WOW! Read the original story and the HuffPost follow up…..amazing. Thanks for posting!

  357. i do not watch FOX nor do I watch MSNBC nor do I watch anything that has a bias towards money unless I'm looking to be entertained. It is folly to us extremes to make your point.

  358. She is public, she is clearly cynical, bitter and snarky- so it's cool for her to espouse but not him? Additionally, I do think that yes, Orthodox values ARE being begrudged in nearly every anti- Rabbi comment on here. "Barfefoot and pregnant" may seem like a chesnut, but its is MOST DEFINITELY a Jewish value and one that I, and the majority of my Jewish friends, hope to (and do) put into practice. Only in the secular, neo-feminist, non-Torah- led world is that something to be ashamed of and "childless and unwed by chloice" something to be celebrated. To someone who feels this way, the rabbi is "tearing her down" rather than trying to understand her, or help her (regardless of the fact she will never read it- well, she might, seeing as it's become such a public controversy.) Matthew Miller- I eat meat- so your veganism/vegatarianism is of NO CONSEQUENCE and it is your right to abstain from DELICIOUS KOSHER MEAT. I am an Orthodox Jewess with an opinion, and the 2 are not nutually exclusive, no matter how much they are in your fevered brain. Women are less served with weirdo male-feminists like you than they are by "subjugated, backwards thinkers" like me.

  359. Anonymous says:

    Rabbi, I am truly embarrassed to count you as a fellow Jew. Your letter is offensive, vitriolic and filled with enough sense of self-importance to seriously make me wonder if this is a publicity stunt. At least then it would make sense.

  360. Jordana Brown says:

    J.j. Adler She is public, she is clearly cynical, bitter and snarky- so it's cool for her to espouse but not him? Additionally, I do think that yes, Orthodox values ARE being begrudged in nearly every anti- Rabbi comment on here. "Barfefoot and pregnant" may seem like a chesnut, but its is MOST DEFINITELY a Jewish value and one that I, and the majority of my Jewish friends, hope to (and do) put into practice. Only in the secular, neo-feminist, non-Torah- led world is that something to be ashamed of and "childless and unwed by chloice" something to be celebrated. To someone who feels this way, the rabbi is "tearing her down" rather than trying to understand her, or help her (regardless of the fact she will never read it- well, she might, seeing as it's become such a public controversy.) Matthew Miller- I eat meat- so your veganism/vegatarianism is of NO CONSEQUENCE and it is your right to abstain from DELICIOUS KOSHER MEAT. I am an Orthodox Jewess with an opinion, and the 2 are not nutually exclusive, no matter how much they are in your fevered brain. Women are less served with weirdo male-feminists like you than they are by "subjugated, backwards thinkers" like me.

  361. Jason Sokowlowski What gives you the freedom to have your own opinions about religions, and not pressure others to share those beliefs? Also, from reading your quip where you acknowledge that your daughter will ultimately become an independent woman, it's painfully clear that your unabashed intention is to help her develop into one of those strong minded and independent thinkers comfortable in her own skin and tolerant of others. How dare you, sir!

  362. Aliza Riemenschneider says:

    What an aveira– to humiliate another human being. This letter you've written, rabbi, is a Chillul Hashem. Meanspirited and unnecessary. I'm a frum yid who teaches Torah to children in Brooklyn and even my students know better than to humiliate someone in public!

  363. Marc Gottlieb Exactly, Brother Marc! Why can't people understand that if you attack any Republican, you are insulting the entire party. Some might say she was only trying to attack one Republican Senator who thought voter ID legislation would give the state of PA to Romney. But that's not possible. By attacking him in her video, she insulted all the other good Republicans who had nothing to do with it, and that's the greater evil. She should have kept her mouth shut. It's just like those whining kids at Penn State. Did ALL of the coaches rape them in the showers? Were they even raped every time they took a shower No! But the lame-stream media insists on focusing on the bad things that Sandusky did. That's offensive to coaches everywhere. And men. And isn't that the real injustice? Crap I'm missing Hannity!

  364. Shahaf John Klein says:

    they teach many things in high school that are incorrect. and the fact the the rabbi may have been wrong doesnt make your name calling alright

  365. Chaim Amalek says:

    Enough! Who here can set me up on a date with Sarah Silverman? The two of us could become the first power couple of the Romney years.

  366. Hannah Stander Riederer Wow, what an unbelievably convenient coincidence. Voter suppression–yet another thing China does better than us.

  367. Marc Gotlieb: "Not having children is your choice, but think about it this way: my children will vote Republican when you're on Social Security. Who will yours vote for?"

    Best. Quote. Ever. It's never to early to indoctrinate your kids. Religion and politics. Talk about the "Mission Accomplished" of parenting.

  368. Lisa Skurow says:

    Donald Silverman Good for you Mr. Silverman! Good for Sarah. She is a true American Jewish Woman, and I applaud her! Shame on this Rabbi Rosenblatt! It's a shame that as a Jewish Man, a Rabbi, no less, that he has to stoop to the level of degrading another Jew. I have heard it before, about myself, online and on air, by another AISH Rabbi here in Las Vegas. It's truly shameful and embarrassing that a Rabbi speak about anyone, especially in a public forum about your daughter or anyone, in this demeaning fashion! It is hateful divisive and disgraceful! Shame on you who call yourself Rabbi Rosenblatt!

  369. I would also wish that he had addressed the issues you raised…had you actually raised any. Just looked through the whole letter again. Nope. No actual issues.

  370. J.j. Adler says:

    Sarah Silverman is definitely a public figure who provides social commentary…usually in the context of her career. But, unlike the Rabbi, she hasn't publicly held up the Rabbi's life to denigrate or disapprove of. (The idea that the Rabbi is trying to "help" is condescending and judgmental. I doubt Ms. Silverman sees the Rabbi as a superior who is in any kind of position to help or advise her. One would hope the Rabbi would have the humility to understand this on his own.)

    I certainly won't debate whether being barefoot and pregnant to the exclusion of all else is a Jewish value. However, I would like to point out that giving people the befit of the doubt, and refraining from loshon hara and motze shem ra are definitely jewish values: beyond picking on one specific woman, whether to "help" her or use her as a negative example, there are far more respectful approaches the Rabbi could have taken toward raising the same issues.

    Further, the idea that the secular world glorifies childlessness and shames those who have children is untrue. Secular values include "live and let live" — meaning: do what works best for you, I will do the same, and neither of us need place value judgements on the other's choices. This same point of view is what makes freedom of religion a deeply held value in this country.

    However, there is a ton of literature and conversation going on about shifting gender roles in the secular west and the conflicts and challenges these present. Personally, I think you might find some of it quite engaging.

  371. Jeff Altemus says:

    The worst part of this isn't that the good rabbi is yet another tiny-penised cultural conservative who blanches at the very thought of a strong woman in his midst. The worst part is he's used a beautiful woman who has actual talent to increase his own public visibility. With some success.

    I've got *your* number you fame whore of a rabbi.

  372. Baron Chat says:

    so you admit the rabbi's wrong after all? well, shahaf, you're not half the twat marc is. good for you.

  373. J.j. Adler says:

    Oh, one other Jewish value: be self-aware enough to avoid a chilul hashem… which this article seems to be in the process of creating.

  374. Joel Easton says:

    Why does the Rabbi remind me of Taliban? Oh – because they are essentially the same arguments. Yes I'm jewish. That is all.

  375. Andrew Horn says:

    "worthless… aren't fit to shine his shoes… Libs goosestep… loser," says Alan Rockman; and then he says: "you oh-so-tolerant – NOT – Libs… are much more intolerant…"

    Hypocrisy?

  376. Susan Moore says:

    HJ, well said.

  377. Alan Rockman says:

    Shame on you, Lisa, for being so stupid and not figuring out what the Rabbi was saying.

    Did you protest when Loser Girl offered to "scissors" Sheldon Adelson? A man ten times what foul-mouthed Donny Silverman could ever be.

    Apparently not. You're the type who will vote for the anti-Semite Obama and equally clueless Berserkly.

  378. Geoffrey Murry says:

    Why is Sheldon Adelson "ten times what Donny Silverman could ever be." Because he's rich? Do you know how he got to be rich? Does that even matter? Or is being rich just, in and of itself, sufficient to confer honor and status. That is such a disgusting concept. I fear that America may be on the verge of electing a vile chameleon based exactly on that basis. The fact that you think our President is anti-Semitic shows just how narrow your mind us. Pathetic. Grow up. And stop believe in fairy tales.

  379. Ari Moss says:

    Alan,

    I am not rushing to her defense. I am just pointing out the obvious inconsistencies with the so-called Rabbi's comments.

    There are enough problems in the Jewish community without someone demanding that one Obama supporter shut up, get married, and have kids.

    Ask yourself a question, what gives you the right to demand that Sarah Silverman get married? Who are you to tell her how to live her life? For that matter where do any of us get off instructing people how to live? Tell me do you desecrate the Sabbath day (unlike spinsterhood, that is a sin punishable by death in the Torah)? Yet this learned Rabbi is not demanding our execution because we desecrate the Sabbath. Do you think that Sheldon Adelson has ever said, "Gd damn it"? That is a sin punishable by death as well.

    Picking and choosing which parts of Torah to follow with some level of kavanah is part of living a modern Jewish life, why should Sarah Silverman be forced to select pru-uvu (being fruitful and multiplying) of loving of thy neighbor? If she makes her choice why would you disparage her saying she cannot find a husband?

    I am pretty sure Sarah, like you, like me, and like Obama was created in the image of HaShem. I am pretty sure that means within all of us, liberal, conservative, democrat, republican, Jewish, Muslim, Christian, other is the spark of HaShem, that informs each of us to divine purpose. Who are you to judge how she lives her divinity?

  380. Ari Moss says:

    Alan Rockman
    I am not rushing to her defense. I am just pointing out the obvious inconsistencies with the so-called Rabbi's comments.

    There are enough problems in the Jewish community without someone demanding that one Obama supporter shut up, get married, and have kids.

    Ask yourself a question, what gives you the right to demand that Sarah Silverman get married? Who are you to tell her how to live her life? For that matter where do any of us get off instructing people how to live? Tell me do you desecrate the Sabbath day (unlike spinsterhood, that is a sin punishable by death in the Torah)? Yet this learned Rabbi is not demanding our execution because we desecrate the Sabbath. Do you think that Sheldon Adelson has ever said, "Gd damn it"? That is a sin punishable by death as well.

    Picking and choosing which parts of Torah to follow with some level of kavanah is part of living a modern Jewish life, why should Sarah Silverman be forced to select pru-uvu (being fruitful and multiplying) over loving of thy neighbor? If she makes her choice why would you disparage her saying she cannot find a husband?

    I am pretty sure Sarah, like you, like me, and like Obama was created in the image of HaShem. I am pretty sure that means within all of us, liberal, conservative, democrat, republican, Jewish, Muslim, Christian, other is the spark of HaShem, that informs each of us to di

  381. Ari Moss says:

    Alan Rockman
    I am not rushing to her defense. I am just pointing out the obvious inconsistencies with the so-called Rabbi's comments.

    There are enough problems in the Jewish community without someone demanding that one Obama supporter shut up, get married, and have kids.

    Ask yourself a question, what gives you the right to demand that Sarah Silverman get married? Who are you to tell her how to live her life? For that matter where do any of us get off instructing people how to live? Tell me do you desecrate the Sabbath day (unlike spinsterhood, that is a sin punishable by death in the Torah)? Yet this learned Rabbi is not demanding our execution because we desecrate the Sabbath. Do you think that Sheldon Adelson has ever said, "Gd damn it"? That is a sin punishable by death as well.

    Picking and choosing which parts of Torah to follow with some level of kavanah is part of living a modern Jewish life, why should Sarah Silverman be forced to select pru-uvu (being fruitful and multiplying) of loving of thy neighbor? If she makes her choice why would you disparage her saying she cannot find a husband?

    I am pretty sure Sarah, like you, like me, and like Obama was created in the image of HaShem. I am pretty sure that means within all of us, liberal, conservative, democrat, republican, Jewish, Muslim, Christian, other is the spark of HaShem, that informs each of our lives. Why would you or anyone denigrate her divine purpose? Who or what has vested you with that power? How do you or Rabbi Ya'akov have intimate knowledge of HaShem's purpose for her?

  382. Jinnee Joos says:

    Ugh, disgusting. I don't even know where to begin. Just goes to show, knowledge and wisdom are clearly not always synonymous…

  383. "the most basic of tenets which Judaism has taught the world – that the monogamous relationship is the most meaningful one and that a happy marriage is the key to wholesomeness."
    Someone should have told Avraham…and Yaakov…and Moshe…and David…and Shlomo…In fact, I think the first Jew who ever advocated the virtues of monogamy was Jesus. Oh snap!

  384. Alan Rockman "anti-Semite Obama" Sorry, that's just too epic a troll; I had to convey that made me properly laugh out loud.

  385. Yeah, jordana. no pru urvu for you. or me. or sarah silverman. its HER choice. period. in fact my not making her mechayev to that mitzvah, its GOD who gave her the freedom to decide for herself. so stop being so stuck in your own perception of how orthodoxy needs to be. and before you tel me to suck it up because i am just a loser who doesnt have it all, i am a happily married jewish, orthodox (for lack of a better word because it describes my practice but not my affiliation with haters like jordana AND I have children. AND I support sarah silverman's right to decide how she wants to spend HER life.

    and talk about doing things at the expense of another jew? thats rosenblatt. the remarks above on tochacha are relevant and not being followed by rosenblatt in his complete disregard for another jew.

    and you are so wrong when you think that everyone who disagrees with the rabbi is against orthodoxy. the way i read it a lot of us are orthodox.

  386. yalda, take it down a notch. it isnt ALL the orthodox jews. it's some. and you know what there will be others who are not orthodox who agree with him. and they, orthodox or not will be just as wrong as he is.

  387. Sarah Jacobs says:

    Apparently, Rabbi, you are unacquainted with the Reconstructionist Movement. Also, all this telling a 42 year old woman you don't even know that her decision not to pass on what she sees as flawed genes is just laziness and lack of your very narrow idea of the attribute of femininity is… lacking in an appropriate sense of boundaries. Do you do this with/to your congregation?

  388. @Donald Silverman – Way to denigrate all of Orthodox Judaism (and display your total ignorance and general inability to stay on topic to boot) just because you disagree with one man's opinion. What a worthless piece of ****.

  389. Sarah Jacobs says:

    The reason I mention Reconstructionism is that not all Jews are the "spiritual" religionists you describe, Rabbi.

    Some real, actual, practicing Jews are also Atheists. A religion of ethical nationhood and all that.

    You are pretty clearly playing "Who is a Jew?" on non-Israeli soil.

    It was repugnant enough when the Ethiopian Jews entered Eretz Yisroel half-starved to death by their oppressors. It's still repugnant now.

  390. Anonymous says:

    There are millions of Jews who are not married with children. If you want to pursue that as a social issue, go ahead.

    To single out one public individual in this cause is improper.

  391. This is quite possibly the most ignorant thing I have ever read. You sir, make Jews look bad and I am ashamed to be sharing ancestry with you. You are telling a brilliant, intelligent, funny and politically active woman to shut up and have children? How dare you? What gives you this moral high ground? The fact that you have long beard and believe in the magic man in the sky. Get back to the middle ages where you belonged and severed some purpose. I take confort that the only way ou get any mainstream attention is invoking the name of a woman who has achieve more that you can ever hope to achieve.

  392. This is quite possibly the most ignorant thing I have ever read. You sir, make Jews look bad and I am ashamed to be sharing ancestry with you. You are telling a brilliant, intelligent, funny and politically active woman to shut up and have children? How dare you? What gives you this moral high ground? The fact that you have long beard and believe in the magic man in the sky. Get back to the middle ages where you belong and severed some purpose. I take confort that the only way ou get any mainstream attention is invoking the name of a woman who has achieved more that you can ever hope to achieve. You are the one that needs to shut your trap.

  393. This is quite possibly the most ignorant thing I have ever read. You sir, make Jews look bad and I am ashamed to be sharing ancestry with you. You are telling a brilliant, intelligent, funny and politically active woman to shut up and have children? How dare you? What gives you this moral high ground? The fact that you have long beard and believe in the magic man in the sky. Get back to the middle ages where you belong and severed some purpose. I take comfort that the only way you get any mainstream attention is invoking the name of a woman who has achieved more that you can ever hope to achieve. You are the one that needs to shut your trap.

  394. Look in the mirror when you say "clown," jerk.

  395. Alan Rockman says:

    I didn't ask your opinion girlieboy. Go back to Rev. Schicklgruber Wright's pew.

  396. Alan Rockman says:

    I just wonder if Loser girl Sarah and her equally obnoxious daddy are still going to vote for the anti-Semite and Israel hater she still stupidly pushes despite all of the evidence that Bonzo, oops Barack hates people with names like Silverman and Rockman.

    Mitt nailed him on Foreign Policy and the failures on Iran and Libya, not to mention Obama's animus towards Israel. I wonder who loser girl wants to scissor tonight?

    ROTFL.

  397. Paula Madden says:

    Of course…she's indoctrinated.

  398. Sasha Yakhkind says:

    Freedom of speech except when it comes to religion? That's never been a good idea.

  399. Way to elevate the dialog, Mr. Top Commenter.

  400. Alan Rockman says:

    You can elevate even more by disappearing, maybe to Gaza, Ovomit apologist.

  401. Alan Rockman says:

    Donald,

    You raised a foul-mouthed loser jerkette, and you're still a foul-mouthed loser jerk.

  402. Mmm-hmmm. I know a few of those words.

  403. Alan Rockman says:

    Glad you do know some words, knucklehead.

    LOL.

  404. Anonymous says:

    Miles Taylor – In fact, she admitted to Larry King http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmLFkaT_cyg&feature=related that she owes her comic style to her father. She said she didn't always realize this but one day it hit her like a revelation. Donald taught her swear words when she was 3, and encouraged her to say them aloud in public, i.e. at the grocery store. Strangers reacted with shock and delight and what she, at 3 years old, took as approval. And she's been seeking approval by shocking people ever since.

  405. Anonymous says:

    Marc Gottlieb Agreed! I just watched a Larry King interview, in which he asked Sarah what offends her, and she couldn't think of anything! She said that people are offended by things they know about from personal experience! Is that not a pathetic answer? Most people who make a living stretching the envelope, shocking people's sensibilities, justify doing so based on the fact that there are worse things in the world to be shocked by. Not Sarah, apparently. She's not offended by murder, rape, slavery, bigotry, poverty, endangered species, or anything else she hasn't personally experienced. And by the same token, she said, the only topic she could not imagine doing a joke about is fat women.

  406. Ben Freedman says:

    Wow. I cant believe how pathetic this "Rabbi" is. Look in a mirror buddy. It started out bad with this terrible critique on a great woman but only gets worse in the comments. Really sad. I am truly ashamed.

    Donald. Father of the YEAR. You should be extremely proud.

  407. Ben Freedman says:

    Alan Rockman TALK ABOUT FOUL MOUTHED. so many hypocrites. get outta here.

  408. Anonymous says:

    Donald Silverman Wow, Donald, I just saw an old interview of Sarah by Bill Maher on utube, in which Sarah says that YOU HAVE TOTAL CONTROL OF ALL THE MONEY SHE'S EVER MADE SINCE HER CAREER BEGAN. And you're not even a financial expert! But she thinks it's safe with you because you're her dad! Wow, you trained her well, didn't you? Now I understand why you say, "You don't **** with my family". Because you don't want the competition!

  409. Rabbi Rosenblatt, to me you're coming across as the straight, Jewish equivalent of a bitter old queen, completely incapable of wrapping his brain around the idea that Miss Silverman is not only correct, but she's RIGHT.

    And Rabbi, even though I know ignore this this, which is of course your right, I'll say it anyway: Sarah Silverman's personal life choices regarding marriage and family, are NONE of your business, any more than your personal choices are her business. That you would stoop to such a level is unworthy of you, or your position.

    As for Donald Silverman, *tips hat*.
    Good on you sir! *smiles and shakes hand*.

  410. Anonymous says:

    Chaim Reich: Donald has complete control over all of Sarah's money! I just heard her say that in an interview! So, all the people here who think he's such a wonderful father may wish to reconsider. And the Rabbi may wish to reconsider why she has no permanent relationship (other than her possessive father)!

  411. Anne Kreeger says:

    Did you actually tell a woman that "the most basic desire of the feminine soul" is finding a mate? That "marriage and children" will cure what ails her? You, sir, are a shanda fur de goyim. Before you print such drivel in the future, perhaps you should ask yourself the age-old question: "Is it good for the Jews?"

  412. Oh, I have to agree with Liz Alward. That was very well put indeed. It was a pleasure to read.

  413. And I must agree with many of the comments below. For you, Rabbi, to have done this in so public a fashion, is beneath the dignity of your position. Even an atheist is able to form a complex morality, in which it is possible to see that there would be a potentially greater opportunity between you for meaningful dialogue on this, had you approached the issue in private.

  414. After reading many of the comments on this post, I would hardly characterize myself as a blowhard, but it seems name-calling is de rigeur. So by all means, join in the insults. Does that make you feel better now?

    Being a public figure means just that. It's not pretty, or kind, or fair, but it's a truth. I've said it before, but I'll say it again: posting videos on YouTube invites scrutiny, comments and criticism. I think it's fair to assume that you didn't feel the same during the Romney tax return non-issue.

    - 1) So what? Is he not entitled to his opinion now? There are dozens of countries where gays have no rights (for example, see: EVERY Arab state). And, what he said was that he didn't have a problem with the Chic-Fil-A's executive's opinion. The premise of the article was about the beef vs. chicken industry and kashruth. Which probably made it at least partially tongue-in-cheek. If you're going to scrutinize every detail of the rabbi's writing, then at least scrutinize in context.

    - 2) No where does the rabbi mention abuse or mistreatment in his article. So your argument is spurious. Sadly, abuse exists in too many communities, but that wasn't at all the focus or point of the article. Dragging it into the conversation here is just a sad attempt at misdirection.

    I just think you're sore because Sarah out-edgy's you.

  415. Tyler Self says:

    haha, I just wanted to thank you for the nostalgia of middle school that last "burn" gave me.

  416. Ana Stacia Carbajal says:

    Rabbi, my grandfather was Jewish, and I thinks he would be ashamed of someone like you. Sarah's video to get people to get the necessary identification to vote should be applauded not criticized. I would be PROUD to have a daughter like Sarah. I am glad her dad spoke up for her. You deserved what he said. Now I know where Sarah got her spunk.

  417. Levi Kofman says:

    Hey Donald Silverman, it sounds like you've been doing a lot of scissoring. Like father, like daughter. Apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

  418. Anonymous says:

    Rosenblatt, you are a patriarchal ass. I love Sarah, and her dad. You reinforce for me that, religion is a farcical game, created to control the sheeple. Begone, you dimwit.

  419. Hal Weiner says:

    Yori Yanover I presume you don't masturbate. What a waste. Did you know that people's body parts are used for more than one thing? And I failed HS biology ( could not bring myself to disect the frog). I love Sarah Silverman. She is one of the funniest people alive. I am not getting a laugh out of this thread and would not normally post or read the Jewish Press but my youngest son sent the Rebbe's article to me presumably to raise my blood pressure. it did.

  420. Levi Kofman says:

    Donald Scissorman?

  421. Denver Tina says:

    Marc – I don't know where I came from or how I got here. And that's ok. But I don't believe biblegoddidit. I do believe it's more likely I came from a monkey than a dirt man and a ribbed woman though.

  422. Denver Tina says:

    God is real. So is Zeus.

  423. Right on, Don!

    We love OUR Don.

  424. I just heard she farts out her mouth.

  425. John Daugherty says:

    Alan Rockman – Hypocrite

  426. Bentzy 'Rob' Rosengarten says:

    Rabbi Rosenblatt, I don't know who you are and where you got off thinking that writing an open letter judging Sarah Silverman for not getting married and having kids was a good idea. You criticize her for using a reference from the Bible when you yourself co-opt a description for God from Isaiah 40:11 when you say you "'Tend the flock,' figuratively and literally." Analyzing a comedian's "sickening sexual proposals" is not your place as a rabbi, and neither is it to judge anyone.

  427. ok, that's scary..Someone called "Me" commented back to Gila on her comment. And it was not ME! Shudder, chill, chill.

  428. Anonymous says:

    The Rabbi gave voice to what a lot of traditional Jews are thinking about Sarah. We love her but feel bad for her. Of course, he is attacked to high heaven for it. I agree the emphasis on monogamy here is a bit misplaced from a Jewish perspective, and a bit too influenced by xtianity, although today that is our practice as well, though perhaps without the inherent centrality the Rabbi seems to give it. Marriage & children, however, have always had that centrality. The bottom line is there's a divide between those who, on the one hand, strive for enduring values and to connect to truths which are meaningful enough to last beyond our demise, and, on the other hand, those who seek the self-aggrandisement of the moment, along with less enduring "causes" — and the divide over which of these 2 perspectives/courses of action is correct will continue until (at least from a religious perspective) the Messiah finally arrives. Anyone who has at all attempted to speak to secular Jews about the spiritual destructiveness of a self-based focus, or of behaviors like eating pork, getting tattoos, intermarrying, having casual sex, etc., knows that they are going to get a very vitriolic response as a reward. What Donald does not care to realize is that the Rabbi made his comments because of the warmth and affection he feels for Sarah as a fellow Jew, and that his comments come from the heart. I propose we all get together for a Friday night Shabbat dinner and have a few L'Chaim's together. Donald, you and the Rabbi can give each other a hug and we can all agree that much more — including love for your beautiful daughter (albeit expressed in ways you disagree with) — unites us than divides us.

  429. Josh Kroll says:

    Dear Rabbi,

    As a man, what is your most basic desire? You stated this in your open letter, "And, in my opinion, Sarah, that is why you have had trouble forging a permanent relationship – the most basic desire of the feminine soul." So am I to assume that your most basic desire is something other than forging a permanent relationship? If not, why feminizes the soul, but rather say "…desire of the human soul."

    And why does it take a spouse (same sex or straight) to have a permanent relationship? My longest relationship will either be with my parents or my sister, and thankfully they are good and strong.

    Finally, you don't own the Torah, or for the Christians the old Testament. These are words of humanity, obviously they mean more to Jews, Christians and Muslims than to Hindus, Buddhists, Taoist, Agnostics or Atheists, but that doesn't mean it isn't part of our shared human history. If the words are divinely inspired, then aren't they all of our words?

    Josh

  430. Christopher Evan Becker says:

    I'll pray for you.

  431. Shahaf John Klein says:

    you and i see things so differently. completely and respectfully disagreeing with most of your response

  432. Shahaf John Klein says:

    again, calling a person a twat is so conducive to a debate, impressive. secondly, i never admitted that the rabbi is wrong. why cant people on the left understand that others have the right to voice their opinion without being called names? what makes people on the left so angry when we have a diff view and or opinion

  433. Doug Horwich says:

    Rabbi, don't you have a misrepresented virgin to stone in the town square? I feel sorry for you that you were born 3,000 years too late and have to try to cope with life in the modern world, in which many have flatly rejected your brand of industrial-strength zealotry and religious nonsense.

    You got your ass handed to you for the laughable and misguided comments you made about Sarah Silverman and should probably just shut your mouth at this point. Please take your antiquated, barbaric religious beliefs and go away. People like Sarah and Donald Silverman make me proud to be a Jew. You, not so much.

  434. Leeah Lechuga says:

    Dear Rabbi Rosenblatt,

    I knew very little about Sarah Silverman until your open letter opened my eyes. In a search for context to your piece, I looked at her work. She is fantastic! My life is enriched! Thank you.

  435. Stephen Haas says:

    Rarely in a debate like this does one size expose itself so thoroughly. Donald has openly and for all to see shown himself to be a vulgar, angry person who doesn't believe in God, let alone Judaism. That's fine, so far as it goes. He can believe in anything he likes. But to then brag about having a rabbi daughter and to crow about all sorts of Jewish stuff in the next post is truly bizarre. Really, Donald, if there's no God and the Bible is irrelevant, your rabbi daughter is wasting her life on a fairy tale and the IDF is just some foreign army; it being hardly worthy of accolade that your granddaughter serves in some random foreign army.

  436. Chad Walker says:

    Donald Silverman, thanks. Now we know where Sarah's depression and self-loathing came from: a crazed anti-theist who cares about no one and would have gladly terminated her. That explains everything! You can complain about God(s) all you like but you are still a horrible excuse for a human being!

  437. Chad Walker says:

    Taylor Baker-Gower, "Who cares how closely these ass hats follow Torah or Talmud if they don't show other humans love and respect?" if you think his comments involve "love and respect" then I seriously hope you don't show any "love and respect" to your family members.

  438. Renee Kahn Stoller says:

    Why does this Rabbi have to denigrate Sarah personally instead of just stating that he's insulted by what she says? All his opinions about Sarah and relationships, Sarah and marriage, Sarah and children have no bearing on the fact that his feelings were hurt and he disagrees with what she said. Better to stick to posting without the personal attack on Sarah.

  439. Kristen Skeet says:

    "And, in my opinion, Sarah, that is why you have had trouble forging a permanent relationship – the most basic desire of the feminine soul." Mr. Rabbi, you know nothing about the desires of the feminine soul. So shut it.

  440. Joel Jeffrey Rane says:

    Since you sit in judgement of others, allow me the same: anyone who blindly follows faith is delusional; anyone who teaches blind faith is a fool, and someone who imposes their faith on others, as you would, is a putz.

  441. Donald Silverman Adopt me. =-)

  442. you, sir….are a total douchebag. if her dad feels compelled to defend his daughter, why should he need permission?

  443. Ellen Zen says:

    Dear Rabbi , With all due respect I must tell you that you are no man of G-d. You sir, are a schmuck and a dumb one too.. Shalom Schmucky.

  444. Yossi Zucker says:

    After seeing the comments, and the strong passionate responses – it's obvious that the Rabbi's hit a nerve.
    Avraham was called such because he had the power to be on Gd's side while the rest of the world was on the other – coming from the word "Ever or Ivri". Keep spreading the light Rabbi – their are many Ivrim on this page who haven't been exposed yet to the power of their fathers…

  445. Joanne Millett says:

    How did the debate go last night?

  446. Dewey Smith says:

    I am really tired of these dumb Orthodox Jews telling people how to live their lives. Having lived in Israel for about 5 months, it is extremely unfair to ordinary Israeli citizens that a small minority runs the country. Everyone except the orthodox do the army. These people (orthodox) are cowards, they don't the courage to die for their country but they have the audacity to tell people what to do. Outrageous.

  447. Considering her peculiar ideologies, and those of her family, I think the good Rabbi shd thank his lucky stars that La Silverman has chosen not to procreate…Perhaps a divine blessing for the rest of us?

  448. Went Brown says:

    I agree with you there Dewey

  449. Ken Stein says:

    Actually you wouldn't be writing this letter if you weren't a "Patriot For Romney." What ever happened to Thou Shalt Not Lie?
    http://www.patriotvoices.com/patriot_voices_announces_patriots_for_romney_ryan_reception_at_gop_convention

  450. Steven Mazie says:

    Methinks the rabbi protests too much. He might be in love:

    http://bigthink.com/praxis/sarah-silvermans-rabbinical-tangle#comment-685474955

  451. Note, thoughtfully, that Rabbi Rosenblatt observes Orthodox Jewish practices. I am a Reform Jew and, whether I agree with his views or not, they are his and he has the right to observe the way he does. Think of what distinguishes each branch of Judaism from the others and why, at base, there "need" to be different "camps." Also – and most importantly (however confusing the whole process gets), Rabbi Rosenblatt does have the right to opine as freely as he wishes, too. I suppose that others' opinions (as explicitly stated so-many-times-over here) are also so justly or rightfully expressed.

    Ain't this boogie a mess?

    It gets ugly when we start calling one another names. What I observe as misogyny may be acceptable practice in another's culture (and we need to respect that each individual's response is borne of her / his perception) – regardless how horrible I think it may be or how I understand the tenets of that person's formal belief system to read. One of the fun things about people is that we each are capable of doing our own thing, understanding / perceiving and responding our own ways, respectively. We need not hurt one another simply because we are different. Individuality is a splendid thing, however controversial it may be at times. I also realise that my words here may be read as critical and, for that, I sincerely apologise. It's a slippery slope we all attempt to climb when we choose to share our opinions with others. I do not wish to insult anyone; rather, I'd love to inspire someone else to refrain from issuing insult. And on I ramble.

  452. Kimberly Bernhardt says:

    Yikes that letter is foul.

  453. P.S., Ms. Silverman, in every aspect of her public personality (the only one I am familiar with), is the most ferociously attractive woman I have never met….Just the way she is / appears to be.

  454. Baron Chat says:

    oh shahaf, calling you and gottlieb a total of 1.5 twats, is not nearly as impressive as you lot being evolution/science/genital mutilation deniers and infant dick suckers (and in at least one case, an infant killer):

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-57449105-10391704/cdc-11-infants-contracted-herpes-due-to-controversial-jewish-circumcision-practice/

    to answer your question with another: can anyone voice their opinions without being called a name by you right wing religious fascists, or, maybe, a patronizing, hateful 2 page article on a religious news site? no need to answer. you've answered plenty already. shalom!

  455. Shahaf John Klein says:

    BARON, its amazing you can put on your shoes in the morning….circumcision is not mutilation. i can not believe that someone as ignorant as you can even type. its a ritual that is 4000 years old. how many cases of herpes were caused by this? how many cases of other diseases were caused by not doing this? you keep calling people dick suckers…any issues you need to speak with your shrink about? you must of been in sandusky's gym

  456. Doobie Okon says:

    You're my hero Donald Silverman

  457. Emmy Cedar says:

    <i> You are in show biz. I am in the rabbi biz. You entertain people. I serve people. </i>

    Oh, so you do, Rabbi. That is what you get <i> paid </i> for, isn’t it? Is Ms. Silverman jumping up and down asking people to thank her for entertaining them? Um, no, because that’s what she gets paid to do.

    But unlike you, she actually decided to step outside her profit zone and advocate for people who might be unrepresented and shut out of the election.

    What have you done to make this world a better place? You used your position to make a lecherous, disrespectful statement to not just Silverman but to all women.

    From our side of the gender field: go stuff it where the sun don’t shine.

  458. Emmy Cedar says:

    "You are in show biz. I am in the rabbi biz. You entertain people. I serve people."

    Oh, so you do, Rabbi. That is what you get paid for, isn’t it? Is Ms. Silverman jumping up and down asking people to thank her for entertaining them? Um, no, because that’s what she gets paid to do.

    But unlike you, she actually decided to step outside her profit zone and advocate for people who might be unrepresented and shut out of the election.

    What have you done to make this world a better place? You used your position to make a lecherous, disrespectful statement to not just Silverman but all women.

    From our side of the gender field: go stuff it where the sun don’t shine.

  459. Doobie Okon says:

    So because I completely disagree with the Rabbi and think he's being a twat, I am a self-hating Jew?

  460. Alex Yu says:

    wow… this ignorant coward represent about 10-20% of all Jews… I am ashamed that there are Jews like that.. but every family has its freaks and stupid…

  461. Angel Iyes says:

    I'm a Christian and have to say that was one of the most beautifully expressed letters I've ever read. We may not agree on the New Testament but we sure agree on a host of other things. Family importance being one of them. You certainly have a gift for the written word. Thanks to our free society you are able to express those wise, wonderful thoughts to the world. So interesting how atheists display such unbridled anger when they speak yet when you speak its gentle like an ever watchful and caring father. This world is a much better place with you in it.

  462. Timothy Ace Holleran says:

    I am not Jewish, so I call upon the faithful to translate this into Hebrew and communicate it to Rabbi Rosenblatt: Mind your own business.

  463. Pam Richter Protas says:

    Ms Schwartz, Rabbi Rosenblatt, nor you for that matter, would understand the concept of "discreet" if it slapped you upside the head. An "open letter" is by definition a public document. Splashing it all over the internet is rather indiscreet.

  464. Scott Leahy says:

    Rabbi Yaakov, isn't there an infant boy's penis somewhere you should be mutilating?

  465. Robert Nevel says:

    me haha wow buddy you're a real douchebag. it'll be funny to see how all the people in support of the Rabbi will eventually be on the wrong side of history and be all but forgotten. guess your efforts to be immortal by having kids and continuing your lame-ass family name will be all in vain in the end. it's funny though to read your crap and laugh at you. please don't stop. we need more idiots like you to keep us chuckling.

  466. Renanit Levy says:

    There is a post on Huff Post about this you should also check out, sweetie.

  467. Anonymous says:

    Message to the Rabbi – If you attack someone's kid expect Dad to ferociously defend her. You would do the same. What did you hope to accomplish with this article?

  468. Shahaf John Klein says:

    denver tina, do you honestly think its more likely that we come from apes? really? shocking

  469. Shahaf John Klein says:

    beth, and the left never judges anyone, ever!!!

  470. Shahaf John Klein says:

    alex, what all of jewry forgets that when the jews assimilated our traditions was almost lost. orthodoxy kept it alive. so when all the jews in europe and the US become lost sould with no relationship to judaism and the rest of the world comes after you will see then who will protect our traditons and people

  471. Ellis Vener says:

    Reading the comments from Rabbi Rosenblatt's supporters I am reminded of an old saying:: "Chelm hath no fury like their Rabbi scorned."

  472. Denver Tina says:

    Shahaf: I evolved; you didn't. Yes, I think it's more likely that I came from an ape than a dirt man's rib.

  473. Sarah Silverman is great. You don't like her because she's a woman who expresses her opinions and isn't afraid of being heard. This is why I stopped trying to be religious. As I started on the path down Ba'al Teshuvah I felt more and more marginalized, as if I wasn't as worthy as a man. That's not real Judaism. Women used to be Rosh Yeshiva and supported their families. But, we don't get credit for it anymore. This post Holocaust Messianic b.s. is divisive and will kill Judaism. When will Jews stop picking fights among each other and start working together? You started this fight. Ms. Silverman never attacked you. I hope your daughters turn a deaf ear to your nonsense.

  474. Rabbi, it is my impression that what you did here qualifies as "lashon hara".

  475. Shahaf John Klein says:

    denver tina: you did not come from a rib, eve did and you are not nearly as spiritual to have come from a rib. you came from your parents who came from other humans and not primates. however if you realy think you did, the primates you came from were smart enough to give the freedom of chice to believe that because they are so smart and created our world. enjoy the rest of your evolution. one day you may(i doubt it) wake up and realy begin to evolve and descover things that were taught to you but were very much false

  476. Elizabeth Petty Swallen says:

    Her dad's responses in the comments section were a riot. Way to stand up for your kid, Donald!

  477. Jackson Beard III says:

    I thought that had to be not previously known. He didn't reveal any spectacular new facts there.

  478. If I were to be gratuitous I would say that you are an ******* that needs to mind his own ****ing narrow minded, antiquated, orthodox business. But I won't be so gratuitous, douche bag.

  479. Sisi Ville says:

    Sarah Silverman is great. You don't like her because she's a woman who expresses her opinions and isn't afraid of being heard. This is why I stopped trying to be religious. As I started on the path down Ba'al Teshuvah I felt more and more marginalized, as if I wasn't as worthy as a man. That's not real Judaism. Women used to be Rosh Yeshiva and supported their families. But, we don't get credit for it anymore. This post Holocaust Messianic b.s. is divisive and will kill Judaism. When will Jews stop picking fights among each other and start working together? You started this fight. Ms. Silverman never attacked you. I hope your daughters turn a deaf ear to your nonsense.

  480. Marina B. Perez-Rubio says:

    Not so sure about what is so horrible about what he said. He has a traditional view of the world, so? You may not agree, but that doesn't make him a horrible human being.

  481. Marina B. Perez-Rubio says:

    He's orthodox. You won't see eye to eye. ;)

  482. Shahaf John Klein says:

    marina, you misunderstood what i wrote. i have never said he is a horrible human being. there are many people i dont agree with and i dont think they are horrible. how do you know i am not orthodox, how do you know i am not traditional. quite the contrary on both

  483. Dave Gellis says:

    Marc Gottlieb Marc, because he lives in a world where he benefits every day from the accomplishments of women who achieve wonderful things in every field, including science and the arts.

  484. Gil Yardeny says:

    Hey, Mr. Rott,

    What an apt name! Because everything you just said is "ROTT"en to the core. While the Rabbi came out an expressed his opinion of how Sarah Silveman is acting, He at least used a subtle, gentle approach with the tenents of the Jewish faith to express those feelings. When you have "one of the tribe" go out and "whore" herself in order to promote an A$$ for President, she should be told! I have done so with the parasites who ran and promoted her shameless ad and I will do so with you too! So, Mr. Rott, Liz, and Melissa – if you are Jewish, you should ALL be shocked and dismayed by Silverman's actions. If not, I just don't see how you can call yourself Jewish. BTW, I'm not orthodox, but I am still offended by such offensive behavior. So don't even try and go there with me. Oh, and another thing, I did serve in the IDF for 3 years! SO I do know what the hell I'm talking about!! Nuff said!!!

  485. Aaron Michiel says:

    "And I am disgusted with you, Yakla…Just go and support the loser girl who spews filth and loves the anti-semite and Israel-hater Obama."

    Someone's been watching too much Fox News…

  486. Fred Glover says:

    I've watched Sarah's public service announcement 3 times. I can't find where she denigrates the Jewish faith, nor its God. Sure she's got a potty mouth. As an Old Timer myself, I find her somewhat offensive but I'm certainly not going to attack the messenger for delivering an important message.
    Would the Rabbi's shoe be on the other foot if in, say, Texas, voter ID laws were created to discriminate against Jews? Perhaps by only opening registration offices two days a week, one of them Saturday?
    In Nazi Germany, the Jews lost the right to vote in 1935. I'd expect a Rabbi to support Sarah's message wholeheartedly, or if her language offends you too much, at least to remain silent.
    I am far more offended by these blatant attempts to tilt the vote for one party than I am by anything Sarah or her Dad will ever say.
    Or is your skin really so thin? Is Sarah really the first Jewish comedian you've heard with a potty mouth?
    Get a life.

  487. Aaron Michiel says:

    Marc Gottleib, it's genuinely disturbing that those defending the supposed rabbi's comments are political right-wingers. I thought this was an issue of Judaism and whether the religions patriarchy can dictate faith-based gender-roles, but by coupling your views with right-wing rancor (just like the Rockman guy), you're merely re-enforcing the left-wing idea that the right is waging a "war on women" to repress them, dictate their roles, and take away their rights.

    The rabbi just seems like a judgmental dogmatic misogynistic jerk. His supporters though are offering a frightening state of right-wing rage. Truly scary stuff.

  488. Gil Yardeny says:

    Gila Weiss – Sarah crossed the line when she prostituted her "Jewish" body for politics!!! And for a President who hates Israel, it's even worse!!!

  489. Alex Yu says:

    what makes him a horribly person is the way he treats women.. and they way he insults a majority of the Jews…

    and let's not forget what those orthodox Jews did for the other Jews: the refused to protect their own in WW2 (in Warsaw ghetto they refused to fight along side their brothers and sisters), they refuse to protect the state of Israel (they avoid military service)…

    I am sure there are exceptions and there are honorable orthodox Jews.. but for the most part they are ignorant, bigoted, cowards…
    I will not forget their role in WW2 and how they betrayed their own…

  490. "I wouldn't be writing these words had your most recent video not been framed in biblical language."
    Balony. That's got to be the most flim-flamsiest justification of religiously-defended sexism I've ever seen.
    Let's remember Ms. Silverman's message: for people to get out and VOTE. Yet this Rabbi decided, as an agent of Orthodox Judaism, to attack her by way of her womanhood and femininity. Why? Because the Rabbi's real problem is he doesn't want Sarah Silverman to VOTE, just like he doesn't want others like her to VOTE, because he is against the idea of women VOTING. It gives equal power to women as it does men, and in Orthodox Judaism, that is a big no-no.
    Of course he wants her to go back to the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant. That will keep her out of the voting booth.
    The rest of America is not like Williamsburg, Lakewood, or Kiryat Joel. Thank God.

  491. Chaya Halberstam says:

    Put her in a binder!

  492. Gil Yardeny says:

    Yalda Bat Chofesh – Get over yourself. Your name says it all!!! If you want freedom, nobody is stopping you, but those who believe are also allowed to do so. You had a bad experience? Well, so did I. The difference between us is that I will always remain faithful to Judism while you're out to destroy the basic tenents of our faith. So, just because you don't want to have kids, or belive it's beneath you to succomb to be a married woman doesn't mean that others do want such things. Your angry at the ultra religious? Stand in line…there are a lot of people who are. But, here's the catch, You are STILL jewish. Nothing will change that unless you decide to convert to another religion. if that's the case…Lehitraot!!! Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out!

  493. Roy Neal Grissom says:

    ::Sigh:: After perusing all these hundreds and hundreds of self-contradictory comments (I have the right to speak but you don't; Judaism is a medieval penis mutilating religion/I'm a proud Jew; Judaism should inform my vote but not yours; I love the poor except for those shoeless inbred morons in the trailer parks who are the cause of all the world's problems), all I can say is thank G-d I'm a Theonomic positivist!

    I think I know a little better now what the crowd worshiping the `egel massekhah was like!

  494. Steve Ganot says:

    Gavin, your reply is fine, except "Judge not, lest you be judged" is from the New Testament's Book of Matthew, not from the Hebrew Bible. It may or may not express a traditional Jewish value, and perhaps similar sentiments are expressed in the Hebrew Bible, but it isn't literally from a book that Rabbi Rosenblatt is likely to have read.

  495. Alan Rockman says:

    Obama came out swinging, and on the surface looked like he would have it on points, but the lasting impression left with almost everyone here, definitely everyone I know, was with Romney. He pointed out the failures of the last five years, said how he would change things, and was clear and concise. This even with interference from the moderator, CNN's Candy Crowley, who interrupted Romney on Libya telling him initially that what he said wasn't so – BUT THEN SHE HAD TO TURN AROUND AND APOLOGIZE, as Romney turned out to be right.

    A lot of undecideds are going Romney's way, and he is now up by 6% with likely voters AND undecideds. :)

  496. Nora-Adrienne Deret says:

    Many of my daati friend and relatives have served in the Tzava… I do know that many from the Chassidishe world do not. I think those are the people Donald was ranting about… Shtei Gadot Layardein.

  497. Nora-Adrienne Deret says:

    Anybody willing to give odds that this Rabbi is a Romney follower?

  498. Gimme that Bronze Age religion,
    Gimme that Bronze Age religion,
    Gimme that Bronze Age religion,
    It's good ee-nough for me!

  499. Careful Sarah or he'll airbrush you out just like Hillary…

  500. Ataner Brownsky says:

    Yeah, Sara, fulfill your goddamn feminine duty already! Procreate now! ;)

  501. Alan Rockman says:

    Better to be a Romney follower and love Israel than follow an anti-Semite of longstanding who befriends and hires anti-Semites, and whose animus towards Israel is clear for all to see – except the ignorant and those who put the Democratic Party over their own people.

    E TU Nora-Adrienne?

  502. Judy Zippin says:

    Just what we need, a rabbi attacking another Jew. Don't you have small children to molest?

  503. Stephen Fazekas says:

    typical orthodox taliban response. Women to be knocked by man over and over and over and over and over again.

    the world has changed since 1000BC.

  504. Deborah Singer-Frankes says:

    Marc Gottlieb : Where is it written that women are obligated to marry, or to procreate ? Hint: nowhere

  505. Deborah Singer-Frankes says:

    Ann M Thomas: Because one can't obligate a woman to do something potentially life endangering (giving birth).

  506. Cindy Laffler says:

    About time a Rabbi stood up for the rest of us that have to be questioned when someone like Sara Silverman tries to speak for all Jews.

  507. Murray Elias says:

    Rabbi, you are a pious piece of self righteous **** that gives all Jews a bad name. **** you.

  508. Yori Yanover says:

    Matthew Miller – she said nothing about wanting people to vote. She invited Sheldon Adelson to have lesbian sex with her if he gives his money to Obama. It was pretty funny, kind of soft-pornish, too — but make no mistake about it, this was not a Get out the vote clip.

  509. Yori Yanover says:

    Dave Gellis — Wait until we start wallowing in superstitious dogma from the future!

  510. Yori Yanover says:

    Looks like she started, but the pooch got in the way — watch the vid.

  511. Avi Leiman says:

    A beautifully and accurate critique.

  512. Mo Sabghir says:

    I don't see what people are getting all crazy about? Lets be honest her brand of humor while funny is crude and explicit, and frankly its just a little bit offensive that she always goes back to the Jew thing… The Rabbi was not saying "Sara go be a baby making machine" after all he pointed out that she is reaching the end of what is considered child carrying years. What he did say was that she obviously has a certain lack or sadness from her years of using her humor to 'destroy' and use the faults she sees in others against them. And that she has spent her life undermining the values of the same Judaism she uses to promote her cause.
    What he actually said is he prays she channels her drive and passion into something positive, that will make you a better person etc. etc. Only after does he say "I pray you get married have children etc. it will make you have a new outlook on life"…etc.
    No one has to agree with the rabbis wish wish of how she could find "fulfillment" in her life. But do you all hate her so much or are you all so selfish that you don't wish for her to be a better person, however she may come to it.
    And Dad, if the truth didn't hurt, your daughter's public displays of indecency and crude behavior at the expense of her own dignity, or the fact that she refuses you the "Yiddish nachas" of grandchildren, you would not give two hoots what some "Idiot" Rabbi from Texas thinks or says.

  513. Anonymous says:

    I am a married Jewish woman and a mother, and let me state upfront that I have never been a huge fan of Sarah Silverman's humor. However, this letter is the most ridiculous, narrow-minded, logically bankrupt thing I've read in a long time. Ms. Silverman's politics are nothing new, and if you think they are you clearly haven't done your research, which can only mean that you're using your supposed influence to ridicule a stranger without bothering to find out who she is or what she's about. The fact that her values and priorities are different from yours does not make them any less valid, and you have no place writing about her life in such a judgmental manner or offering your ignorant, baseless prescriptions for what would supposedly make her life "whole".
    I certainly hope that anyone reading this letter doesn't think that Rabbi Rosenblatt's views represent all or even the majority of the Jewish population. Unfortunately, there are self-righteous, sanctimonious hypocrites in every religion.

  514. Are you saying she screwed the pooch, Yori?

  515. Timothy: Sarah obviously has a valid driver's license (she showed it in the video), nevertheless, she made a video defending people who don't.

    Why won't you tell her to mind her own business? She has no dog in that fight.

  516. Dan Goldsmith says:

    Dear Rabbi Dip-****.

    Sara Silverman is what you have an opinion about? Really? In an election year you have an opinion about a comedian? Whether you're Cholov Yisroel, Pas Yisroel, hold by 6 hours blah blah blah, at the end of it all you're neither Jew nor Rabbi nor Thought leader. You're just a petty resentful fool with an ultimately unimportant and more or less worthless opinion….just like the rest of us. Gosh, Rav. If you want to be a dick like everyone else then shave the beard, lose the kippa, head out there and have some fun…..Sara may have a few lessons for you ;).

  517. Catherine Mulligan Trichka says:

    There's nothing wrong with her advocating for those being victimized by Republicans trying to take away their right to vote.

  518. There's nothing wrong with the rabbi advocating for her return to traditional Judaism.

  519. Patty Robinson says:

    When I lived in Miami Beach I witnessed this othodox behavior. It's like something out another century. The males in black smelly coats in the heat followed by long-suffering silent women and the daughers? In long floor length skirts at the beach. Just an observation but my landlady who was Jewish just had one word "brainwashed"

  520. Catherine Mulligan Trichka says:

    "Return to traditional Judism"? Now who should mind their own business? We all have the right to practice whatever religion we choose or don't choose. Again, you have no problem stomping on peoples' rights.

  521. Stephen Leavitt says:

    So many"liberals" demanding the Rabbi not be allowed to exercise his First Amendment right.

    http://www.jewishpress.com/cartoons/sarah-silverman-next-indecent-proposal/

  522. Patty Robinson When I watched the OWS movement on television, I witnesses this Democrat behavior. Men and women in smelly clothes, trespassing on property without regard for the law, theft, rape.

    When I walk through the streets of Jerusalem, I witness Arab behavior. It's like something out of another century. The males who are overwhelmingly smelly, followed by the long-suffering silent women and the daughters? In long floor length clothing wherever they go.

    Don't criticize how people choose to live their lives.

    Oh, and the "smelly" comment is akin to "dirty Jew," an age-old anti-Semitic meme.

  523. You're from Long Island? Don't you have neighbors to sleep with?

  524. Ruth Massey She would make a very… interesting Mother.

  525. Randy Patrick says:

    Rabbi, 'respectfully', it seems that you've missed the fact that Sarahs' video is a defense of a group of Americans' rights, or 'dignity,' which you claim as a traditional value. Perhaps the sexual language in the video confused you, got you all riled up, wanting to get all up in her 'womb.' Spiritually speaking, of course.

  526. Jeff Eyges says:

    Rabbi, I want to thank you personally. You've validated my continuing assertion that Orthodoxy has nothing of value to contribute to humanity.

    And a word of advice – I'd stop offering pocket psychoanalysis; you're no bloody good at it. You should, however, remain in Texas. The Christian fundies and gun-toting neocons must absolutely adore you.

  527. Jeff Eyges says:

    Rabbi, I want to thank you personally. You've validated my ongoing assertion that Orthodoxy has nothing of value to contribute to humanity.

    And a word of advice – I'd stop offering pocket psychoanalysis; you're no bloody good at it. You should, however, remain in Texas. The Christian fundies, neo-cons and gun-toting bubbas must absolutely adore you, and I'm sure you feel right at home among them. They all believe the universe is 6,000 years old.

  528. Jeff Eyges says:

    Rabbi, I want to thank you personally. You've validated my ongoing assertion that Orthodoxy has nothing of value to contribute to humanity.

    And a word of advice – I'd stop offering pocket psychoanalysis; you're no bloody good at it. You should, however, remain in Texas. The Christian fundies, neo-cons and gun-toting bubbas must absolutely adore you, and I'm sure you feel right at home among them. They all believe the universe is 6,000 years old, and that a woman's place is whatever her husband tells her it is.

  529. Sue Morrison says:

    Yep, really convinced by that 'argument'…um that is irony incase it flew over your head…

  530. Baron Chat says:

    and you "must of" skipped english class along with science. evolution, dude. evolution.

  531. Deb Schulman Silverthorn says:

    My father taught me at a very young age that every lady is a woman, but not every woman will become a lady. I appreciate a father's response to defend his daughter – my Poppie, of blessed memory, would do the same. What I appreciate more is the way my Poppie would have defended, still with honor, reverence, and "tam," or good taste.

    By reading Mr. Silverman's response, it's clear that his daughter also learned from him. Too bad – as I can't imagine under any circumstance using this language to a rabbi, or any other human being. I'm so grateful that the lessons of my Poppie, and the way we both respect(ed) others, even in times of disagreement, are my core.

  532. Alan Rockman says:

    The irony is someone asking for four more years after the last four years of "blaming Bush" – and when he had the house of representatives in his hands for two of them. The irony is of someone now sending US troops to deploy alongside Israelis in anti-ballistic missile manuevers when he cursed Israel for the last four years, allowed Iran to get this far in nuke development, and gave 1.6 Billion of our taxpayer dollars to Roachistinians while he froze Social Security benefits for Senior Americans like my parents for three of those years.

    Maybe Donnie Silverman, he of the stupid and the foul mouth – and his loser girl might want to ask my parents, Jewish-American Seniors about what Obama's policies have done to them – but since he likes four-letter words he'd better expect the same.

    If you, like some of the others here plan to vote Obama, Sue, consider yourself mentally challenged.

  533. Deb Schulman Silverthorn says:

    By the way – thanks Barbara for dating, marrying, and making a magnificent family with J. Brin – and for never running into Mr. Silverman. <3 the life that is mine! The life of both of you!

  534. Deb Schulman Silverthorn says:

    By the way – thanks Mom for dating, marrying, and making a magnificent family with J. Brin – and for never running into Donald Silverman. heart the life that is mine! The life of both of you!

  535. But he contributes to a world where women benefit as well.

  536. Shahaf, why are you trying anymore? He answers argument points with insults, a clear admission that he simply has no response. He denigrates your English while guilty of his own grammatical transgressions. It's the same throughout this entire discourse (and I define that term liberally, to be sure).

    Do you want to know why you can't see anything on his public profile? Because he hasn't accomplished anything noteworthy in his meaningless, vapid, and pointless existence.

    You ask why can't people on the left understand that others have the right to voice their opinion without being called names. Because they haven't learned that name-calling is the surest way of losing an argument. They think insults and humiliation are valid tools of debate.

    He says he's learned the world is full of disgusting people who've used religion to justify bigotry and hatred. And he's demonstrated that people don't even need that excuse. He thinks he's not a bigot or hater because he doesn't believe in God?

    Now he's trying to argue evolution as if he's even familiar with the topic.

    I'm may be a doucebag, dip**** and twat, but you know what? I'm still right.

  537. Isma Sheff says:

    OMG! This is all hilarious! Calm down people!

  538. Marina Kotlyar Funberg says:

    Wow, great words!!!! Sarah Silverman is a moron!

  539. Aaron Alter says:

    Wow. Just wow. This is exactly the kind of divisive, hurtful speech that is hurting, rather than helping Judaism. Rabbi, I'm sure (based off of comments made in this article) think little of Reform Jews, and that your way (Orthodox) is the only way to really be Jewish. Let me tell you something. Were it not for Reform Judaism, I would not be Jewish right now. I was raised and became Bar Mitzvah (parshat Lech Lecha) at a Conservadox congregation. It was intellectually stifling, and made me feel more disconnected and disdainful every year. I went to a Reform camp, and found something meaningful. It was the ability to live my Jewish life in a way that works for me. Since then, I've become elected to the Regional Board of my Youth Group, attend tuesday school every week, and lead services at Sunday school. Last year was my Covenant Renewal service. We went to New York City, and on a Saturday, a group of my friends and I decided to go to Shabbat Services rather than a Museum. We were on the lower east side, and the easiest Synagogue to get to was the Eldridge Street Synagogue. I'm sure given its status as one of the oldest Orthodox Synagogues in the country that you are familiar with it. They welcomed us in, knowing that we were Reform. Rather than chide us, they thanked us for joining them for services. I prayed next to Yeshiva students, and my friends and I were given the incredible honor of an Aliya. That service was one of the most beautiful, defining moments of my Jewish life. Did it change my status as a reform Jew? Absolutely not. After services, in fact, we were asked to stay for a Kiddush nosh. All of the Yeshiva students and their fathers wanted to know about our traditions, where we came from, why we came to pray with them. When I said that we wanted to participate in a Shabbat service, and this was the closest place, one of the fathers laughed, and said that there was nothing more Jewish than coming to pray on Shabbat in a community of complete strangers from another tradition.
    Rabbi, If you can honestly say that I am still not a real Jew, than I will not lash out at you. I will simply say that it saddens me greatly that an Adult (and a Rabbi no less), refuses to acknowledge a 17 year old who is trying his best to live life as a modern Jew, as a fellow member of the greater Jewish community. Reform Judaism has made me a more Spiritual person, and has become a definitively positive part of my life, and for that, I am extremely grateful.

  540. Dorothy BethAm says:

    Go Aaron! Way to speak your mind!
    And PS, pretty dang impressed with the Reform Jew you are :)

  541. Matthew You hit the nail right on the head. Any Jew in this country who doesn't understand that the Christian extremists would try to finish what Hitler started , is suffering from the delusions that the eastern Europeans did when that mad man came to power! I just don't get how a Jew would want anything to do with the tea-bagger party.

  542. Shayla Rosch says:

    To Rabbi Rosenblatt and those readers who share his views:

    Do you ever wonder why reform and conservative Jews are as repelled by your intolerant, narrow-minded, and archaic sanctimony as by the Taliban?

    Please do not stone me for questioning your sacred "Truth."

  543. Shahaf John Klein says:

    alex, as an orthodox jew i didnt refuse service in the military. i do not degrate woman, my family fought in ww2, my grandfather fought for the brits in north africa…you are putting orthodoxy in one hand. but all libs are non-judgmental

  544. Rebecca Zacher says:

    Ah- How I love the ignorant posing as the learned. Thank you for educating me on the most basic desire of the female soul. Let me run out in search of seed!!! Ugh- and my parents wonder why I think so little of orthodoxy.

  545. Alan Rockman,

    What, pray tell, has Obama done to justify an accusation of anti-Semitism? Do you have actual facts to back up your claims, or are you just applying a straw man because he has a (D) after his name?

    What makes you think Romney loves Israel? You should do a little research on the Mormon position on Jews. Hint: They didn't even consider you in possession of full souls until 1978, at which point they graciously "ensouled" you and the other non-whites.

    It's amusing that you're accusing someone of being a race traitor for supporting Obama, when you yourself support a man whose own church trained him to consider you only partially human and barred from ever reaching the highest levels of the afterlife. You would support a man who considered you sub-human in order to attack a President for, what, meeting with Muslim leaders to seek peaceful resolutions to conflicts? Oh, the horror! He's trying to keep Jews from dying in war!

  546. Alan Rockman,

    What, pray tell, has Obama done to justify an accusation of anti-Semitism? Do you have actual facts to back up your claims, or are you just applying a straw man because he has a (D) after his name?

    What makes you think Romney loves Israel? You should do a little research on the Mormon position on Jews. Hint: They didn't even consider you in possession of full souls until 1978, at which point they graciously "ensouled" you and the other non-whites.

    It's amusing that you're accusing someone of being a race traitor for supporting Obama, when you yourself support a man whose own church trained him to consider you only partially human and barred from ever reaching the highest levels of the afterlife. You would support a man who considered you sub-human in order to attack a President for, what, meeting with Muslim leaders to seek peaceful resolutions to conflicts? Oh, the horror! He's trying to keep Jews from dying in war!

  547. One of the more benign things Mormons do about Jews is baptizing them posthumously. Holocaust victims crop up in this service with depressing regularity.

    http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/when-mormons-intrude-on-jewish-practices-1.414573

  548. Arthur Cohen says:

    Rosenblatt is a rabbi like Pat Roberson is a minister. Both of you are primitive bigots. You clearly haven't earned the title of rabbi, and certainly you haven't earned any respect by these profoundly offensive and ignorant comments. You wonder why so many Jews eschew Orthodoxy? It's because of you, sir. You and your followers and supporters, who, like Tea Party Christians, wouldn't know God if he came down and smacked you in the face–which, by the way, is what he would do to people like you who distort and twist religion to fit their own narrow view of the world. You are no rabbi. You are just another self-righteous fool, full of false piety and sanctimonious blather. You are a disgrace and an embarrassment to Judaism, and the fact that you get to preach your medieval nonsense to others is offensive. You owe all of us, especially women, an apology. And if you haven't the courage to do that, then you are just another putz. Well, you are a putz even if you do apologize. But it would show some respect for those who you pretend to serve if you did.

  549. Mr Romney, when asked about his participation in retroactively baptizing the long dead said, “I have in my life, but I haven’t recently.”

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/02/16/mitt-romney-on-mormon-baptisms-of-the-dead-i-haven-t-recently.html

  550. Baron Chat says:

    "your intolerance of my intolerance makes you intolerant" – every whinging, cry-baby, religious extremist, republican ****.

  551. Rabbi Rosenblatt,

    You may want to reconsider the position that you've decided to stake out here. Your article was at least reasonable and defensible, but your comments are in truly poor taste. I suspect that you're relatively new to the internet, and falling into the hostile debate style that comes from a level of anonymity. Let me remind you that you are not, however, actually anonymous. As a rabbi, you are an implicit representative of the Jewish faith. Since you used this fact as an appeal to your own authority, you must also recognize that the way in which you wield this responsibility reflects on the Jewish community, for better or for worse.

    Your article made reasonable ethical appeals based on how she represents herself as a celebrity and a de facto figure of authority. Your follow-up comments, on the other hand, can essentially be summed up as attacks on her father's motivations that would be deeply offensive to any father.

    As a father yourself, I hope you reflect on just how seriously it is to accuse someone of willfully shackling your daughter's independence in order to exploit their trust for financial gain. You are discrediting both yourself and your initial appeal to a more rigorous moral standard by lowering yourself to this sort of nonsense.

    Neither Ms. Silverman nor her father have chosen the path that you have, and the way you represent yourselves will be judged accordingly. You are not a comedian, but rather a community leader. The thing is, you may even be right, but still damage the community by conveying your message in such an undignified manner.

    Next time you want to criticize someone's moral failings, you may want to demonstrate your suggestions with your own actions in addition to words. Unfortunately, any validity to your message has been lost by turning this into a childish personal attack on her father's parenting decisions.

    Ethical advise rings rather hollow when followed up with childish mud slinging.

  552. Alan Rockman Mormon baptism of the dead binds a person to the baptizer in the afterlife. This gets complex, but it's basically a supernatural pyramid scheme, where if you get enough people bound to you you get to become the God of your own planet in the afterlife. Anne Frank's multiple posthumous baptisms aren't a problem for her though, as being bound to a new person severs your binding to the previous one. This doctrine was part of the justification for polygamy, before the LDS abandoned the practice in response to government pressure.

    Long story short, Anne Frnak is now, according to the LDS Church, a good Mormon girl, married in the afterlife to whomever baptized her. She's one more notch on the post towards that man getting his own planet when he dies.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/03/us/jews-take-issue-with-posthumous-mormon-baptisms-beliefs.html?_r=0

  553. Baron Chat says:

    oh yeah, and shahaf, you shouldn't engage me anymore, says the guy who went on for 6 paragraphs, and can't really spell very well.

  554. Aliza Giammatteo says:

    Dear Rabbi:

    I found your letter so insulting and degrading that I hardly know where to begin, but I'll give it a try…

    First and foremost, your implication that a woman must marry and have children in order to have a meaningful, purposeful existence and be of service to society is appalling. By that logic, Secretary Hillary Clinton's service would be of no value had she chosen not to (or not been able to) have children.

    And what about Condi Rice? Or all the other powerful women who do meaningful work and don't raise children? You seem to imply that that's all we were put here for — it's all we're good for — and that is insulting.

    I am a Jewish woman who is not married and has chosen not to have children — for very personal reasons that are no one's business but mine and God's.

    Some women may not be able to have children. Others may choose not to — and sometimes for very good reason — and we should respect that decision.

    Not everyone is fit to be a parent. Some people may have physical, mental, or other limitations that are a cause for concern and they may feel that they can be of better service to humankind by devoting themselves to another type of work.

    We all have different gifts we were given and were put here for different purposes. We should APPLAUD women who have the insight and the strength to realize that they may not fit into the traditional role that is expected of women and can serve better in other areas. It's NOT an easy decision to make (if it is a decision), and from the tone of your letter, you can see the kind of criticism women face for making that decision.

    IT TURNS MY STOMACH to think that a woman could be an award-winning scientist helping to find a cure for a disease, a writer who makes a difference, a business owner who helps others provide for their families, etc., etc., but in the eyes of closed-minded, out-dated people like you, her life's work is of no value if she's not bearing children.

    In your letter you commented that Ms. Silverman said one reason she chose not to have children was because she didn't want to pass on her depression. Unless you have walked a mile in her shoes, please don't pass judgement. It may very well be that she made a wise decision and spared someone a cruel, miserable life (and unless you personally have lived through severe, clinical depression than you need not comment).

    And if it's true that Ms. Silverman does have depression, where's your concern for that horrible illness and your prayers for THAT…or do you prefer to just pass judgement and attempt to bring her down even further? If that's what you call "service" then I don't want to "serve". I can serve others much better in *positive*, constructive ways.

    Rabbi, I believe *YOU* are the one who needs to re-evaluate things, not Ms. Silverman. If you think letters like this are helping you serve humanity, you are greatly mistaken.

  555. Anonymous says:

    Dear Rabbi:

    I found your letter so insulting and degrading that I hardly know where to begin, but I'll give it a try…

    First and foremost, your implication that a woman must marry and have children in order to have a meaningful, purposeful existence and be of service to society is appalling. By that logic, Secretary Hillary Clinton's service would be of no value had she chosen not to (or not been able to) have children.

    And what about Condi Rice? Or all the other powerful women who do meaningful work and don't raise children? You seem to imply that that's all we were put here for — it's all we're good for — and that is insulting.

    I am a Jewish woman who is not married and has chosen not to have children — for very personal reasons that are no one's business but mine and God's.

    Some women may not be able to have children. Others may choose not to — and sometimes for very good reason — and we should respect that decision.

    Not everyone is fit to be a parent. Some people may have physical, mental, or other limitations that are a cause for concern and they may feel that they can be of better service to humankind by devoting themselves to another type of work.

    We all have different gifts we were given and were put here for different purposes. We should APPLAUD women who have the insight and the strength to realize that they may not fit into the traditional role that is expected of women and can serve better in other areas. It's NOT an easy decision to make (if it is a decision), and from the tone of your letter, you can see the kind of criticism women face for making that decision.

    IT TURNS MY STOMACH to think that a woman could be an award-winning scientist helping to find a cure for a disease, a writer who makes a difference, a business owner who helps others provide for their families, etc., etc., but in the eyes of closed-minded, out-dated people like you, her life's work is of no value if she's not bearing children.

    In your letter you commented that Ms. Silverman said one reason she chose not to have children was because she didn't want to pass on her depression. Unless you have walked a mile in her shoes, please don't pass judgement. It may very well be that she made a wise decision and spared someone a cruel, miserable life (and unless you personally have lived through severe, clinical depression than you need not comment).

    And if it's true that Ms. Silverman does have depression, where's your concern for that horrible illness and your prayers for THAT…or do you prefer to just pass judgement and attempt to bring her down even further? If that's what you call "service" then I don't want to "serve". I can serve others much better in *positive*, constructive ways.

    Rabbi, I believe *YOU* are the one who needs to re-evaluate things, not Ms. Silverman. If you think letters like this are helping you serve humanity, you are greatly mistaken.

  556. Dear Mr. Silverman,

    While I respect 50% of Rabbi Rosenblatt's article, specifically relating to your daughter's crude videos concerning Mr. Adelman and Mr. Romney, I don't agree with his premise of why your daughter is unhappy. But the outrageous language you use, gives you zero credibility and it makes it look like you have no argument so you use foul language to make your points. You spout tolerance as long as it isn't towards ANYONE who doesn't agree with you. No, Mr. Silverman, you have no credibility at all. You can defend your daughter's right to be as crude as she wishes to be, because that's her right in the United States of America. But just remember, that along with her rights come Rabbi Rosenblatt's… I will defend them both. I don't agree with either of them. But I notice here that anyone who agrees with you seems to feel the need to mock, defame, or say vile things about Rabbi Rosenblatt. That's not free speech. That's hate.

  557. Dave Gellis says:

    True, but what he contributes is what I scoop out of the litter box. Not seeing the value in that.

  558. Sarah Silverman’s father posted this response to the rabbi’s letter:

    Hey a**hole.
    Daughter #1 is a rabbi. Not by your standards. She's reform. How dare she, a lowly woman think god wants her to be a rabbi, created from a mere rib. Her hubby, three times nominated for a nobel peace prize was listed by the Jerusalem Post as the 49th most influential jew in the world built the worlds largest solar field in Israel.

    By the way, Sarah was also on the list. I missed your name. Oldest granddaughter is serving in the Israel Defense Forces. I'm sure you also served.Oh I forgot the orthodox don't do that.

    You don't f**k with my family."

  559. Dave Gellis says:

    Really? It sounds to me like there might be a lot of people in Pakistan who would think he has the right ideas about women.

  560. Shahaf John Klein says:

    marc, you are right. baron, i actually did miss grammar class as i only came to the states as a teenager. however, have graduated from college(student loans), i dont believe that i was owed a free education, i guess my parents did not teach me freeloading, such bad people they are. anyway, baron, if you want to debated without name calling, i'd be more than happy to educated you a bit as i have a college degree, shocking i know, but i do and i think i can debate you about the existence of something much higher than you, yes god.

  561. Jake Green says:

    "You said you wouldn’t get married until gay people can. Now they can. And you still haven’t married." Pretty sure gay marriage isn't legal in the eyes of the federal government yet… Sarah is sticking true to her promise, and as a gay Jewish 19-year-old, I think that's admirable.

  562. who's mark gottlieb shilling for?

  563. Jake Green says:

    "You said you wouldn’t get married until gay people can. Now they can. And you still haven’t married." Pretty sure gay marriage isn't legal in the eyes of the federal government yet… Sarah is sticking true to her promise, and as a gay Jewish 19-year-old, I think that's admirable.

  564. Jake Green says:

    "You said you wouldn’t get married until gay people can. Now they can. And you still haven’t married." Pretty sure gay marriage isn't legal in the eyes of the federal government yet… Sarah is sticking true to her promise, and as a gay Jewish 19-year-old, I think that's admirable.

  565. Sam Matthews says:

    I agree with most the letter but homosexuals still can't legally marry and I do understand not wanting to pass on a condition to a child even though I think Silverman is using those as cop outs. But it's ridicules she's using a religion she's no longer part of in her routines

  566. Jake Green says:

    "You said you wouldn’t get married until gay people can. Now they can. And you still haven’t married." Pretty sure gay marriage isn't legal in the eyes of the federal government yet… Sarah is sticking true to her promise, and as a gay Jewish 19-year-old, I think that's admirable.

  567. Gabe X. Rimmon says:

    "Nothing you say or stand for…has the slightest thing to do with the most basic of tenets which Judaism has taught the world – that the monogamous relationship is the most meaningful one and that a happy marriage is the key to wholesomeness."

    Um… have you read the torah, rabbi? There's more polygamy in that book than you can shake your 4th wife at. Throw in all the apologetic interpretations you want at that fact, but it remains true: your bible never explicitly says that there is anything wrong with polygamy. If you want to appeal to the tenets of the religion, at least be consistent you self-righteous hypocrite.

  568. Joanne Craft says:

    The GOP are the ones who thought up "voter fraud". When voter fraud was actually investigated, it was found that the GOP were the ones committing fraud. Voter fraud is not an issue, it has never been. And they only instituted new I.D. laws in areas they thought would vote against them. When the Republicans across the country found fraud, they found the fraud to be from Republicans and several people have been indicted. I didn't make this up. I wish I had. ANYONE Democrat or Republican who finagles voter registration to suit them is a bum. If you have to suppress votes to win, your message must be stupid. Many people in cities don't have drivers licenses and they knew that, also a lot of young people still live with their parents, so they do not have utility bills etc. So now everyone has to go to motor vehicles and get non-driving I.D. and get a passport? Since this is America, when AT THE ALMOST VERY LAST MINUTE, they started with the new voter I.D. debacle, they knew people would have to scramble to get the proper i.d.s. AND why are billboards stating penalties for voter fraud only in minority areas? Again, I didn't make this up.

  569. Tim Hogan says:

    Sarah, in the face of outrage, you point out absurdity with rapier wit and accuracy. It is only through ridicule that some outrages may be most effectively fought. Your life is that of a powerful, brilliant, sexy woman who makes a difference. I would be honored to be your friend. But, I'm a goy so what do I know, eh?

  570. Teri Sokol Kachur says:

    Mazel tov Deb. Well said. My father gave me the same advice and I have heeded his advice.

  571. Shalom Rivka,

    You joking?

    Are you trying to tell me that Jews taught the world monogamous relationships?

    In the Jewish Talmud, Yebamoth 103b we read:

    “For R. Johanan stated: When the serpent copulated with Eve, 14 he infused her15 with lust.”

    Notes:
    14 In the Garden, according to a tradition.
    15 i.e.The Human species.

    In Yebamoth 63a we read:

    “R. Eleazar further stated: What is meant by the Scriptural text “This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh?5 This teaches that Adam had sexual intercourse with EVERY beast and animal but found no satisfaction until he cohabited with Eve.”

    Notes:

    5 Genesis 2:23 Emphasis on THIS IS NOW.

    In Yebamoth 59b it states:

    “R. Shimi b. Hiyya stated: A woman who had sexual intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a priest. 4 Likewise it was taught: A woman who had sexualintercourse with that which is no human being, 5 though she is in consequence subject to the penalty of stoning, 6 is nevertheless permitted to marry a priest. 7
    When R. Dimi came 8 he related: It once happened at Haitalu 9 that while a young woman was sweeping the floor 10a village dog 11 covered her from the rear, 12 and Rabbi permitted her to marry a priest.

    Notes:

    4 Which proves that unnatural sexual intercourse does not cause a woman to be forbidden to marry a High Priest.
    5 The Baraitha cited by Raba.
    6 Lit., “this, according to whom”?
    7 Cf. supra 59a n. b7
    8Cf. supra ibid. n. b10
    9 As a reason for prohibition.
    10Who is forbidden not onlyto a High Priest but also a common priest(v. Lev. XXI:7) Why, then, did Rabrefer to a High Priest only?
    11 Infra 61b. 76b Sanhedrin 51a. Tem. 30a
    12 Rab’s reason of “previous carnal intercourse” was necessary.

  572. Joanne Craft says:

    Another fanatic. Don't demonize the democratic party or the republican party. When you demonize other people, you show your own weaknesses. And if you think Romney cares about Israel, I've got a bridge I can sell you, and it's in Brooklyn.

  573. Ben Sacks says:

    I don't think this is fair to Silverman, this should have been addressed to her privately, less you, G-d forbid, embarrass another Jew, which is likened to killing. Perhaps Rabbi Rosenblatt could have expressed his values and suggestions through a more general paradigm, without involving Silverman personally. If he is sincerely concerned for her well being, then there would be no reason to inform the public of what he believes to be her shortcomings. Whether the letter is materially pertinent is really between Sarah and the Rabbi and the publishing of this letter is inappropriate and may even be a halachic violation. Of course, I may be similarly guilty by saying so of Rabbi Rosenblatt…

  574. Ben Sacks says:

    I don't think this is fair to Silverman, this should have been addressed to her privately, less you, G-d forbid, embarrass another Jew, which is likened to killing. Perhaps Rabbi Rosenblatt could have expressed his values and suggestions through a more general paradigm, without involving Silverman personally. If he is sincerely concerned for her well being, then there would be no reason to inform the public of what he believes to be her shortcomings. Whether the letter is materially pertinent is really between Sarah and the Rabbi and the publishing of this letter is inappropriate and may even be a halachic violation. Of course, I may be similarly guilty by saying so of Rabbi Rosenblatt…

  575. Shalom Matthew Miller,

    Did you EVER hear of DIMONA?

    That's were the Israelis have HUNDREDS OF WMD and were responsible for the murder of JFK, because he wanted Inspections of the DIMONA NUCLEAR PLANT etc.

  576. Nina Pollack says:

    free <3

  577. With so many other issues in the world, it's almost funny that he chose to pick on Sarah Silverman…

  578. Sarah Marks says:

    Your name is Rosenblatt and my name is Marks. We both have Jewish ancestors; I am not sure what else we share.
    I sense from your post, (I read it through carefully three times) that Sarah Silverman, did something to you. That something that cut deeper than you expected, so you took metaphorical pen in hand to right this wrong. I understand and respect your right to take her task over tenets of Judaism as you put it, you are in the "Rabbi biz." Then something interesting happened, you started talking about Sarah's choices regarding her faith, her relationships and what to or not to issue from her own womb.

    It is at that moment Sir that you cut ME deeper than I expected.

    You said, "Surely you appreciate being alive and surely, if the wonder of your womb were afflicted with your weaknesses and blessed with your strengths, it would be happy to be alive, too." I read this with so much horror, I could barely contain myself.
    See, I am married (with difficulties) and aside from those difficulties I believe marriage is a covenant. I have lost two pregnancies so far. According to you If my ideology is secular then it is a random occurrence that this happened and my ideology is Jewish then God has done this to me. Regardless of which way it goes, I am still pretty pissed about it. What pisses me off more than that, is the pointing judgemental finger of those who have not walked in our shoes. Marriage and child rearing does NOT make you a better person, you have to do that yourself. It makes you a more experienced person in marriage and child rearing. There are women right now in jail who have murdered their own kids and they are more experienced than I am in child rearing.
    So here we are, Sarah Silverman cut you and you in return cut me – a total stranger. I am sure it was not your intention, I am sure in a moment of frustration of her flipness, her vulgarity, her brashness that seems to oppose everything you consider to be part of the feminine soul, caused your arguments to turn personal.
    I am not in the Rabbi biz, but I believe we can both agree that vengeance is never Jewish.

  579. Joanne Craft says:

    Jacob Alperin-Sheriff Her father's reply was due to someone telling his daughter to marry and have children to be happy. That's what he replied to. Romeney/Obama, right and left are not what the exchange was about. Why does everyone say " If someone had not supported so and so, no one would have said anything. The point of all this is that the Rabbi rebuked Sarah because he thought she wasn't iiving according to his believes. If he wanted to tell her that, send a message to her, not an open letter. She was giving her political beliefs and he was personally castigating her personal intimate life decisions.

  580. Joanne Craft says:

    Aaron, you're only 17 years old. Bravo! 17 and has more sense than the rest of us.

  581. YO Noah Pawliger,

    The Ultra Orthodox and other rabbis don't have time for fighting wars. They have their OWN work to do:

    Second century Rabbi Simeon ben Yohai, one of Judaism’s very greatest rabbis and a creator of Kabbalah, sanctioned pedophilia—permitting molestation of baby girls even younger than three! He proclaimed,

    “A proselyte who is under the age of three years and a day is permitted to marry a priest.” 1
    Yebamoth 60b,
    Subsequent rabbis refer to ben Yohai’s endorsement of pedophilia as "halakah," or binding Jewish law. 2 Yebamoth 60b
    Has Rabbi ben Yohai, child rape advocate, been disowned by modern Jews? Hardly. Today, in ben Yohai’s hometown of Meron, Israel, tens of thousands of orthodox and ultra-orthodox Jews gather annually for days and nights of singing and dancing in his memory.
    References to pedophilia abound in the Talmud. They occupy considerable sections of Treatises Kethuboth and Yebamoth and are enthusiastically endorsed by the Talmud’s definitive legal work, Treatise Sanhedrin.

    The Pharisees Endorsed Child Sex

    The rabbis of the Talmud are notorious for their legal hairsplitting, and quibbling debates. But they share rare agreement about their right to molest three year old girls. In contrast to many hotly debated issues, hardly a hint of dissent rises against the prevailing opinion (expressed in many clear passages) that pedophilia is not only normal but scriptural as well! It’s as if the rabbis have found an exalted truth whose majesty silences debate.
    Because the Talmudic authorities who sanction pedophilia are so renowned, and because pedophilia as “halakah” is so explicitly emphasized, not even the translators of the Soncino edition of the Talmud (1936) dared insert a footnote suggesting the slightest criticism. They only comment: “Marriage, of course, was then at a far earlier age than now.” 3

    In fact, footnote 5 to Sanhedrin 60b rejects the right of a Talmudic rabbi to disagree with ben Yohai's endorsement of pedophilia:
    "How could they [the rabbis], contrary to the opinion of R. Simeon ben Yohai, which has scriptural support, forbid the marriage of the young proselyte?" 4
    1 Yebamoth 60b, p. 402.
    2 Yebamoth 60b, p. 403.
    3 Sanhedrin 76a.
    4 In Yebamoth 60b, p. 404, Rabbi Zera disagrees that sex with girls under three years and one day should be endorsed as halakah.

    Out of Babylon
    It was in Babylon after the exile under Nebuchadnezzar in 597 BC that Judaism's leading sages probably began to indulge in pedophilia. Babylon was the staggeringly immoral capitol of the ancient world. For 1600 years, the world’s largest population of Jews flourished within it.
    As an example of their evil, Babylonian priests said a man's religious duty included regular sex with temple prostitutes. Bestiality was widely tolerated. So Babylonians hardly cared whether a rabbi married a three year old girl.
    But with expulsion of the Jews in the 11th century AD, mostly to western Christian lands, Gentile tolerance of Jewish pedophilia abruptly ended.
    Still, a shocking contradiction lingers: If Jews want to revere the transcendent wisdom and moral guidance of the Pharisees and their Talmud, they must accept the right of their greatest ancient sages to violate children. To this hour, no synod of Judaism has repudiated their vile practice.

    Sex with a “Minor” Permitted
    What exactly did these sages say?
    The Pharisees justified child rape by explaining that a boy of nine years was not a “man” Thus they exempted him from God’s Mosaic Law:
    “You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination” (Leviticus. 18:22)
    One passage in the Talmud gives permission for a woman who molested her young son to marry a high priest. It concludes,

    “All agree that the (sexual) connection of a boy aged nine years and a day is a real connection; whilst that of one less than eight years is not." Sanhedrin 69b 5

    Because a boy under 9 is sexually immature, he can't "throw guilt" on the active offender, morally or legally. 6

    "…the intercourse of a small boy is not regarded as a sexual act." 7
    The Talmud also says,

    "A male aged nine years and a day who cohabits with his deceased brother's wife acquires her (as wife)."8
    Clearly, the Talmud teaches that a woman is permitted to marry and have sex with a nine year old boy.
    5 Sanhedrin 69b.
    6 Sanhedrin 55a.
    7 Footnote 1 to Kethuboth 11b.
    8 Sanhedrin 55b.

  582. Joanne Craft , I'm inclined to cut a Father some slack when he's responding to a hateful, arrogant, personal attack on his child.

  583. Anonymous says:

    this lady is so vulgar and disgusting (not funny one iota!). Why anyone would even look up to her as someone that sets an example, or would heed her political advice is beyond me! Please hush up Sarah no one cares who you support politically and why you don't like Mitt Romney, you definitely are not the standard to look up to on these issues! You are completely oblivious and blind as to who Obama is and what he really wants for America, how about you and your sheeple hollywood buddies educate yourself about him instead of promoting him just because it is the 'popular' thing to do. He doesn't care about women's right (by the way there is NO WAR ON WOMEN, want to see a war on women go to Iran!) or your gay buddies, of course he will saide with them and anyone else to win you people over BUT SO DOES THE DEVIL and you people fall for it hook line and sinker! so stop with the political rants you have no idea what your talking about! And how Donald you as a father could be proud of her vulgarity just shows why she is the way she is, SUCH A shame! It is because of people like your daughter, infiltrating our children's minds (and adults) on television etc. with pure GARBAGE that this country is being flushed down the toilet, you people have NO morals whatsoever! Whether you believe in God or not, you can't say that this lady does NOT spew garbage out her mouth, you simply cannot! Its just sad because one would think at 41 this lady would act like an adult and be doing something to better the world in her position. So I Thank this Rabbi who has GUTS to stand up for his faith and for what is right and decent. And as a parent myself I find it deplorable that other parents on here are siding with Donald and Sarah on this issue, what is wrong with you people! This Rabbi was right in every thing he said, and he said it with dignity, grace and conviction. This woman who fills your children's head and many others with trash you praise and defend her! She is a grown woman if she can dish the trash out then she opens herself to these kinds of scoldings from concerned parents and people who actually care for what is good and right in the world. It is sad that America and the world for that matter now praises and calls evil good and good evil, we have traded the truth for a LIE! And don't give me the tolerance, relativity, reform, progress boloney, I don't want to hear it! I'm fed up with that garbage, I am a 24 yr old mother and wife and I KNOW right from wrong and the road our world is headed down is a road to destruction, not progress and tolerance.

  584. Zeus Jennie Morales says:

    I'm not a Jew but wanted to offer my support to the Rabbi here. I can certainly understand not agreeing with him but he approached the issue with respect and sadly has not received a lot of that back. Oddly enough, many of the people being so disrespectful to him would probably accuse him of being the hate-filled intolerant one.

  585. Joanne Craft says:

    Marc Gottlieb Because there are some people who don't drive because they choose not to drive or don't have to drive because they are where they don't need to drive are now being told they cannot vote, when they have been voting all their lives. And by the way, told a few weeks before the election. I myself have a non-drivers i.d. I show sometimes when using my charge card. I have voted all my life, never missed an election of any sort. Unless I now go to the passport office, and go through the hassle and expense of getting a new passport (my old passport has expired and been misplaced in a move). But luckily I live in New York, where the GOP has not ben allowed to pull this ****. My father, who recently passed away, was a WWII vet (one of the greatest generation) worked i in the Transit Authority for 40 years, had a driver's license, no passport and if he lived where the GOP targeted their new laws (passed by GOP controlled senates with no problem) you're telling me he could not have voted? My mom, his wife, a successful business woman and mother/homeowner etc etc. like a lot of the women of her generation never learned to drive, she did not travel overseas, so she didn't have a passport. She voted in every election until her death at 86 and you are telling me if she lived in one those bogus voter fraud states, she could not have voted? (The only fraud they found was Republican fraud and they are now being investigated) you and I both know who these laws are targeted at. People died to be able to vote, how dare they take it away from people and make it more difficult because the GOP is afraid how people will vote in a DEMOCRACY. I probably will not like who you're voting for, but I'll be damned if I would not defend your RIGHT to vote and try to stop any finageling or shenanigans that tried to make it harder for you so my candidate could win.

  586. Joanne Craft says:

    HATEFUL??? As my dad told me, don't start what you can't finish.

  587. Timothy Ace Holleran says:

    SS just slung back at the idiot rabbi's dreck-laden screed.

  588. Joanne Craft says:

    Word, Brent. Thanks, that was good, so now god's endorses certain political parties? A mighty big LOL.

  589. Leonardo de la Paor Read my comment again, sweetie. My point was that most of our Torah role models, those paragons of virtue, were NOT monogamous. They had multiple wives and concubines. Monogamy didn't become a cultural norm around the world until the spread of Christianity.

  590. Adam Klein says:

    I don't think "gratuitous" means what you think it means. "Gratuitous" means "not called for by the circumstances." For instance, this column is gratuitous. In context, you seem to be using to mean "gracious" (characterized by a generosity of spirit). Just thought I'd let you know. (Oh, and for the record, I'm going to have to agree with the several thousand commenters who think you're sort of an *******.)

  591. Joanne Craft says:

    That's true, if you can, don't humiliate a person in public. Even if I have a not good exchange with someone while I'm out, I do not make it personal. When you make statements trying to make someone small, you sound so small yourself. And we try to raise our children to not do that.

  592. Joanne Craft says:

    Steven, you've had the best response so far. Very funny.

  593. Joanne Craft says:

    There sure are. Stupid doesn't discriminate.

  594. Joanne Craft says:

    That's what I was saying. He could have used a less public forum if he was going to object to what is her private life, i.e. marriage and children and her happiness. But I don't think he was interested in her happiness. And he should not even be aware of her, since orthodox should not be reading or watching her.

  595. Joanne Craft says:

    Yeah, if you want to be a nitwit like the rest of us. He should lose the religious garb and just join the rest of us fools.

  596. Joanne, you identified the problem precisely. Times change, realities change, and in this context, now, voter identification has to change. We're not in disagreement on this issue.

    Look, I already voted, so it doesn't matter to me, but this is sort of the whole point of the democratic process. If you don't like the decisions being made, vote the people making them out of office.

    I do want to point out that I think it's hilarious that it's the liberals who are screaming about this, since they historically opposed women's suffrage, and it was democrats who opposed black voting rights, and who made having a minimum amount of money a prerequisite for voting.

  597. Timothy Ace Holleran says:

    Marc Gottlieb Here we go with the anti-Semitic card. I'm outta here.

  598. Joanne Craft says:

    Stop with the liberal already. People of every political stripe have responded. Why is everything a liberal conspiracy. Jesus Christ, stop giving the liberals more credit than they deserve. Every thing you disagree with is not a conspiracy, unless it is. And, of course he can use his first amendment right. People are objecting to the rabbi telling her in an open letter, that the only way she can be "fulfilled" is to get married and have children and she is not being a good Jew, whatever that means. If anyone writes an open letter you will have this kind of exchange of opinions; something he is probably not used to. He lives in a community with people who all think the same, as a lot of us do. I personally don't like people from Long Island, and like Manhattan and Queens, NY because we mostly think the same. Comfort in numbers etc. But if you shun the outside community, as the rabbi's sect does, don't give your two cents to a person who lives in the outside community and didn't ask you for it and hasn't told you how to go about your business in your community. She didn't come into his community and talk about him, or send an open letter to him or his religious group. Everything is cool, these replies are just how people respond in a democracy. We can waste hours on our computers telling people they are full of ****. It's the American way. Goodbye and good luck everyone. Just be careful about posting open letters, unless you like a boat load of ****.

  599. Joanne Craft says:

    Go get a womb and then ask.

  600. Ben Sacks says:

    I agree with you, but lets not be judgmental. I have no idea what kind of relationship he has with Sarah. He says that he has her number and he seems to know a lot of personal details about her. I don't know if those details were made public or not by her, but at the very least, I'm ok with giving him the benefit of the doubt and claiming that he, being a Rabbi, was involving himself in such matters primarily for the sake of helping her, (although I don't think his methods were too effective). Furthermore, participating in public media and entertainment as an Orthodox Jew is not so black and white, especially without fully understanding the nature of the involvement.

  601. Joanne Craft says:

    No. I think he just dislikes people like you. The I know the truth, conspiracy nuts.

  602. Joanne Craft says:

    That's so funny. I always call the men of the conservative right, whatever religion they are "raisin penises". A man of quality likes a women of equality and isn't afraid of women. If you feel the need to "keep me in my place" your dick is very small.

  603. Joanne Craft says:

    She certainly does not speak for all Jews. Are you kidding? She speaks for Sarah Silverman.

  604. Joanne Craft says:

    No, we murder them.

  605. Joanne Craft says:

    Good idea. I think she should debate Mrs. Romney. But not of course, Mrs. Obama. That's makes it an official conspiracy!!! Conspiracy people take note.

  606. Joanne Craft says:

    Some people do think they are funny. Why do you think she's famous and makes real money.

  607. Joanne Craft says:

    Depends what you call a waste.

  608. Joanne Craft says:

    For most conservatives of any religion it IS about what women do with what's between their legs and whether or not we own what's between our legs. VAGINA anyone?

  609. Joanne Craft says:

    I am not Jewish, but I engage also.

  610. Joanne Craft says:

    Your reply is so good. Thank you. You practically echo my thoughts. Thanks.

  611. The Rabbi is right! Sarah Silverman is a sad, confused secularist. She doesn't understand the natural law or God's law. She is in love with the culture of death; as are all seculartists. They live in a dark, cold world and wish to bring everyone else into their depressing worldview, so they can commiserate.

  612. Rebecca Zacher says:

    Not so kind if you happen to have a vagina and (god forbid) ambitions other than childbirth.

  613. Joanne Craft says:

    No war on women? Okay, and the moon is made of cream cheese. Just make sure your rape is legitimate and you don't want contraceptives covered by insurance and ask your employer about whether you can get pregnant or not. And please don't do the same job as a man and ask for the same pay. You don't really need the money. Please don't do that. That would be wrong. Oh I forgot, don't forget to have that rapist's baby whether you want the rapist's baby or not, especially if it's your daughter or niece who's been abused. Just have it dammit. I'm not a gyno doctor either, but I play one in congress. And, since I question there authority over MY body, I'm a slut. If that's a slut. I'm proud to be a slut. SLUTS VOTE. But that's okay, you can go to China and get a job in one of Romney's factories. They just closed another Bain capital factory in the U.S. and sent the jobs to China, but not before they had the chinese workers come to the factory, so the American factory workers could teach the Chinese how to do their jobs.

  614. Joanne Craft says:

    You most be one of those born again losers. Watch out the devil is watching you. LOL

  615. Rebecca Zacher says:

    "Ladies" are kind, genteel and non-judgemental. Pot, meet kettle.

  616. Rebecca Zacher says:

    It's hate responding to hate cloaked in religion to be accurate.

  617. Rebecca Zacher says:

    I found the Rabbi the opposite of respectful. I do NOT appreciate being defined according to his idea of what women are/should be nor do I think it was respectful trying to play psychotherapist in order to publicly shame Sarah.

  618. David Garlikov says:

    What a schmuck this rabbi is.

  619. Angel, you have a lot of nerve dismissing all of the rabbi's critics here as atheists. I, for one, am not. Indeed, I'm an observant Conservative Jew (that's "Conservative" as in the stratum of Judaism, not as a political designation). I not only attend weekly services at our synagogue, but on occasion I help lead them, which means I read and understand Hebrew and know the Torah and Haftorah tropes (the melodies to read the texts). I take umbrage at the rabbi's sexist remarks on two halachic (Jewish law) fronts. First, he should not be looking at a video of a woman who is not a member of his immediate family. Second, any criticism he has should have been delivered to Sarah privately. Of course, the above doesn't address the sexist nature of the Rabbi's letter, which is also offensive. I suggest you watch an eye-opening Israeli film called KADOSH to see what such misogynist Orthodox rabbis feel is the proper role for Jewish women, which is to relegate them to second-hand citizenship.

  620. really, Rebecca, that's all you got????? That the only answer to perceived hate is hate???? WOW!!!! I am so glad I went to Yeshiva… cuz there I learned to love all Jews, even if they didn

  621. Arie Rosenrauch says:

    To Donnie and Sarah Silverman: Will you be forwarding your comments to obama and demand he enforce his NDAA (the law that allows the unfestered murder of US CITIZENS by obama without oversight) or his HR347 (the obama pushed law that lets him decide who can assemble and protest) so as to intimidate arrest and prosecute the good Rabbi for having the "audacity" to offend one of obama's "chosen people" in the new united states of obama?

    Just curious

  622. Really Rebecca, that's all you've got???? Hate breeds hate. So you don't see yourself as above that kind of behavior. WOW!!! I am so glad I went to Yeshiva, because I was taught to love every Jew even if they didn't like me and even if I don't agree with them. Different points of view are not hate. They are just different points of view.

  623. Arie Rosenrauch says:

    Rabbi Rosenblatt: Whether people agree with you or not (and putting the obama boot licking "Freedom of speech only if you agree with us" Silverman's aside, one item is clear: YOU SIR, retain- in spite of the consternation of many posting here – ALL the rights expounded by our Constitution. Your detractrors reserve the same rights. Those rights are crossed when they demand you be shut up. But then, that IS the mantra of the Silvermans and thise they support and support them! The First Amendment rights are being demonized by them and their ilk, promoting a nation of censorship and demonization, as defined by their messiah and fascist in chief. Stand your ground Rabbi – whether I or anyone else agree with you or your beliefs. It is your right to state them. And for that RIGHT – again much to the obvious Silverman chagrin – tens of thousands of US soldiers have fought and died. Good for you!

  624. Alan Rockman says:

    Joanne, are you Jewish, and voting for Obama? If so, when you board the train or put the burka on, please be sure to empty your purse to the grinning Nazi at the train station. His name is Soros, and you are no better than he is if you support Ovomit and Stupid Sarah.

    Have a nice day!

  625. Arie Rosenrauch says:

    Christianity (at least the Vatican) is a prime mover of child abuse and pedophilia Rivka…care to rave about that virtue as well?

  626. Arie Rosenrauch says:

    In reading the posts below, I am amazed – although not shocked thanks to Obama – as to just how many Jew haters there are in the US, and just how many post to Jewish media to exhibit their rancid racism – knowing the Jewish media won't censor them: comments like "ass-hats," "false G-d," "cruel G-d," "the Talmud orders sodomizing little boys," "wish cancer on Jews,".

    And those are the milder comments. I can see that no good level of Jew hatred can be forgone – even by self-hating Jews! I think some people need to read up on the kapos in 1930s Berlin!

  627. I am not, in fact, "raving" about anything. I am merely pointing out a fallacy in Rabbi Rosenblatt's letter. Monogamy is by no means a basic tenant of Judaism.
    Since you had to resort to red herrings and attack Christianity with something that has absolutely nothing to do with the Rabbi's claims, I will assume you agree.
    But be careful which topics you choose to try to distract people away from the subject at hand. Orthodox Judaism is far from free of child abusers, pedophiles, and those who protect them.

  628. Alan Rockman says:

    Aliza, no words to Sarah about her foul-mouth, her sick lesbo antics, or her shilling for Ovomit who hates Jews? C'mon, and you call yourself a "frum yid". You might be, but Loser Girl Sarah isn't.

  629. Alan Rockman says:

    Joanne Craft Supporting Obama, like Loser Girl?

    Nice…you started it, I'll finish, thank you, or better yet President Mitt Romney will. :)

  630. Aliza Riemenschneider says:

    Why should I show her any less respect simply because she isn't frum? My downstairs neighbor is a secular Jew who smokes cigarettes on Shabbos. So should I go leave dirty diapers at his door? If you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all, Alan.

    Also, voting for President Obama… or having respect for people who vote for him… does not disqualify a person from being a frum yid. It's just silliness what you're saying here.

    But thanks for contributing.

  631. Alan Rockman says:

    You're a "frum yid" voting for Obama? 20 years of Jeremiah Wright doesn't faze you? 4 years of hiring anti-Semites like Samantha Power doesn't bother you? Nothing done to stop Iran, constant insulting of the Prime Minister of Israel, 1.6 Billion to the Palestinians, the non-recognition of Jerusalem by Obama and Hillary as the capital of Israel?

    No, Aliza…you are NOT a "frum yid". A hypocrite who puts an anti-semite above her own people, yes, that is exactly what you are.

    Silliness on my part, nope. Stupidity on yours, I gotta say yeah.

  632. Aliza Riemenschneider says:

    Have a great night, Alan!

  633. Alan Rockman says:

    Have a great life, Aliza. Don't forget to vote for Hitler if he's a Democrat too. <g>

  634. Alan Rockman says:

    Aliza Riemenschneider Have a great life, Aliza. Don't forget to keep voting Democratic even if they're anti-semites and Israel-haters.

    "Frum Yid" – LOL!

  635. Arie Rosenrauch says:

    Summarizing:

    In reading donnie silverman's rants against NOT THE RABBI, but against ALL Jews, including his comment that "Jews believe in a false G-d," and then proceeds to defining that G-d as a "cruel G-d," it is fair to say that Jew hatred is embedded in both his and his daughter's beliefs and desires. When I read Donnie's openly Jew hating comments, followed by many other openly Antisemitic diatribes and histrionics, the following article and what it means came to mind. It is the obvious goal of Silverman and others that support them and idolize obama!

    United States of obama 2013.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2219304/Haunting-smile-girl-facing-Holocaust-How-Hitlers-PERSONAL-photographer-captured-history-plight-Jews-Nazi-occupied-Poland.html?openGraphAuthor=%2Fhome%2Fsearch.html%3Fs%3D%26authornamef%3DPaul%2BHarris

  636. Alan Rockman says:

    For my new friend Aliza, and the many naive or just plain self-hating dolts who support the Silvermans – and by extension the first overtly anti-semitic Jew-hater to ever occupy the White House – Barack HUSSEIN Obama.

    This just in. Remember, the guy who funded this video as well as Sarah's scissors one is one Jonathan Soros, son of unabashed Nazi collaborator George Soros.

    Apparently stupidity, if not always foul-mouths run in the Loser Girl's family.

    http://www.jpost.com/USPresidentialrace/Article/aspx?id=288470

  637. Alan Rockman says:

    P.S. Just scroll down to Sarah Silverman's sister makes a pro-Obama film.

    Incidentally that same "Jewish Council for Education and Research" are NOT Jews, especially if a Soros is involved; not for Education, and couldn't research a wet noodle if asked to. Just flat-out liars like all Obama supporters.

  638. Jennifer Walker DeBaun says:

    That is a thinly veiled way of saying "get married, make babies and don't talk so much." I'm sure Sarah has heard it enough from her Jewish mother.
    He just doesn't get the jokes. The rest of us do and love her for saying things no one else has the balls to say.

  639. Camille M. Radloff says:

    I'm sure he doesn't actually have her telephone number, Ben, although I think it's cute that you give him the benefit of the doubt!

    From the following:
    http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/26/messages/489.html

    I give you the following:
    "TO HAVE SOMEONE'S NUMBER – "To understand them closely; to have an insight into their thoughts, actions, and character." From "Brewer's Dictionary of Phrase and Fable" revised by Adrian Room (HarperCollinsPublishers, New York, 1999, Sixteenth Edition)."

    It's basically another way of saying, "I know what you're up to", "I know what your motives are", "I've got my eye on you", and/or "I'm watching you".

  640. Camille M. Radloff says:

    AMEN, my dear sister-friend! <3

  641. Typical of all religious "conservatives," the rabbi is frightened by a woman who rejects the notion that faith should be used to control her to his satisfaction. He's a misogynist and a coward – quite an unbecoming combination.

  642. Fab Mundo says:

    Wonderful Letter Rabbi, too bad Ms Silverman is a by product of such a bitter, crude and vulgar person Mr Silverman. Apples certainly do not fall far from the tree.

  643. Angel Iyes says:

    Hi Elena,
    When I was referring to the bitter anger of the atheists that's exactly who I was referring to. Not sure why you thought I referred to all the critics as atheists. Wasn't my intention at all.

    I just wanted to point out the beautiful way the Rabbi expressed family values. I didn't see him putting down women at all. I found him suggesting another avenue of life where they may find a much greater level of happiness and satisfaction, especially in their prayer walk.

    As for him addressing her publicly, I think that is very appropriate as her work is in the public domain and much of what he referred to was her work.

    For myself, who loves comedians, Sarah Silverman is definitely the pinnacle of this field in terms of clever wit, precision timing and brilliantly funny writing. But do all those skills translate to a happy and fulfilling life? Of course not. The Rabbi was reaching out to the soul of Sarah, not her accomplishments which are varied and far reaching in her world. The Rabbi was pointing out, and very well I thought, how her values were much more important than her talents. Sadly, in our media entrenched world, this is an anomaly.

    I wish we had more people like the Rabbi who weren't afraid of speaking their mind, especially when they have Biblical support, no matter the cost in terms of popularity or public opinion. Its interesting how, in the Bible, so many of God's greatest servants had to endure copious amounts of mocking and derision from their fellow citizens; exactly like today.

    Now about that guy Jesus…..:) I'd like to suggest reading the rest of the Bible so you can revel in Messianic glories here on Earth. :) As a non-Jewish Christian, I often marvel at the depth of knowledge of Jewish Messianic teachers. They are truly the epitome of people serving Christ today. No higher calling is available to anyone, anywhere, anytime. How precious is that time served. What treasures of humanity they are.

  644. J.j. Adler says:

    Cyna, if the Rabbi had simply taken issue with the content of Sarah's video none of the name calling would be justified. But the Rabbi did not "stick to the issues" in his article. Instead, he took it upon himself to make personal attacks on Sarah Silverman, a woman he doesn't even know. He critiques her life choices and condescendingly offers her council she did not request. At a basic level, the article he wrote served to publicly shame and speak ill about a fellow Jew. There is no justifying this kind of behavior — neither in the context of social propriety nor yiddiskeit. Sarah's father's anger was merely incited by the personal attacks the Rabbi made on his daughter. While two wrongs never make a right, Mr. Silverman's outrage at the Rabbi certainly seems warranted.

  645. Ko Ze says:

    yeesh…what a yaakov!

  646. Max Myers says:

    It's always so interesting how religious dogma infects the mind, Rabbi Yaakov Rosenblatt. You take aim at Miss. Silverman, who has done much to break down the global stereotype of how our people are seen. Your diatribe, which is more akin to verbal diarrhea then to anything remotely learned, is exactly the reason why so many of us are Jews by blood, atheist by choice.

    And there's the rub, isn't it?

    As more and more people, of all religions, creeds and cultures, wake up to the global madness of religiosity, that exodus significantly undermines your authority. So what do you do? Instead of engaging in private discourse with Miss. Silverman, you choose a public forum that speeds it up; talk about shoot yourself in the foot.

    However, the saddest part of your 'open letter' is not only that yet again, another man denigrates a woman for her freedom of choice, but that you feel so threatened by all women. You are aware that women are not just baby machines, right? That they fly combat missions, fight on the front lines, are CEOs of corporations, are super successful comedians, and, in point of fact, are leaders of nations? I could go on, but might be belaboring the point.

    Shalom.

  647. Allan Schneider says:

    This is an orthodox rabbi. Remember that and all that that implies. Forget wisdom, tolerance , compassion , enlightenment. He job is to protect his gig. That is to further the idea of the magical imaginary man in the sky to his follows or the very gullible. This imaginary man is sort of like an imaginary friend ( like a child would have ) except for adults. The rabbi sells himself as an interpreter and voice of the magical man's will.

    When you are obedient , you will be in gods good graces. What ever that ambiguous line means.

    The bottom line for this rabbi is power and control…. and money. Noting more. He relies on your fear , and ignorance to keep you "inline".

    Let him explain ( not avoid and duck) the Holocaust. The lies will flow with elegance and sincerity. And it is all a load a crap.

    This rabbi ( and the others like him) – steeped in 14 th century religious superstition are not in any way helping the Jewish people. They are helping themselves. if they were not peddling this line of bull**** they would be driving cabs and washing dishes.

  648. The point Alan was making was that she degrades every one who does not vote Obama and she does it in a very crude way. Why do her antics deserve any respect . She promotes filth, a fum Jew should not respect or admire this. She certainly deserves to be admonished for her gross Chilul Hashem. The rabbi is certainly not guilty of Chilul Hashem. Speaking about someone smoking on Shabbos and comparing it to Silverman's vulgarity displays your lack of discernment and ignorance of frumkeit. I would not want my children taught by you.

  649. No such thing in Judaism as warranted outrage even if the Rabbi is absolutely wrong. It is your premise that vile name calling is justified to a Rabbi or anyone because…… "if the Rabbi had simply taken issue with the content of Sarah's video none of the name calling would be justified." Then you write "there is no justifying this kind of behavior….". Wow…. judge and executioner. that is G-d's job. Yours is to walk away from people you think are this wrong. The Rabbi has the right of free speech. I am so disappointed that anyone thinks vile speech is justified. Again, I will go back to my original premise. This is just hate. If people don't agree with you hate is justified. And I take great issue with that premise, when you are all taking such a lofty holier than thou attitude toward Rabbi Rosenblatt. If you think he is wrong just say it. Mr. Silverman is wrong . Terribly terribly wrong.

  650. Bryan Shane says:

    BS"D
    With all due respect to the rabbi whose smicha is to TEACH Torah not judge other Jews I must point out that to beat a fellow Jew over the head with Torah is sinas chinam. If the rabbi were REALLY concerned about Sarah he would have contacted her personally rather than spreading lashon hara in public. There is a BIG difference between a performers persona and her yiddishe neshama, verstehe? What are these rabbi factories producing these days anyway?

  651. Bryan Shane says:

    BS"D
    With all due respect to the rabbi whose smicha is to TEACH Torah not judge other Jews I must point out that to beat a fellow Jew over the head with Torah is sinas chinam. If the rabbi were REALLY concerned about Sarah he would have contacted her personally rather than spreading lashon hara in public. There is a BIG difference between a performer's persona and her yiddishe neshama. What are these rabbi factories producing these days anyway?

  652. Anonymous says:

    Sir, I am a married woman who also did not have children because of a family history of depression and other mental illness. Frankly, no, there have been years on end when I was not happy to be alive and only my religion's teaching on suicide and my own physical cowardice kept me alive. A child of my willful creation suffering what I have experienced is unthinkable. I respect people who have the sense to acknowledge and respect their limitations when the welfare of others is at stake. You are woefully ignorant on this topic and should ask for forgiveness of Miss Silverman. She is an American Master of comedy and deserves our respect.

  653. Aliza Riemenschneider says:

    That's fine. I have a very full classroom right now anyway. Good Shabbos!

  654. Marina B. Perez-Rubio says:

    i was referring to Alex's comment. i know he's not orthodox. :)

  655. Alex Yu says:

    as I did say – there are exception and I am generalizing… it is my opinion about the group as a whole, based on the evidence I've seen. but for the most part, (ultra) orthodox community of today views women as property and do nothing to support Israel….

  656. Marina B. Perez-Rubio says:

    Generally yes. but i don't think that this Rabbi voicing his opinion about S. Silverman's life, etc makes him a horrible person. there is just no way that they could possible ever see eye to eye on much. ultra liberal and an ultra conservative. makes for entertaining exchange in the process. ;)

  657. Alex Yu says:

    it shows how he view women.. it does not matter that he is cowardly hiding behind his religion. it still makes him a horrible human being in my eyes.. again – my opinion…

    it would be fun to watch if it was not for the reality of life – they (orthodox community) do treat women like that in real life (especially in Israel)..

    and again, I am generalizing the whole group – there are exceptions..

  658. Living in Dallas, and having seen DATA at work against women for 19 years, this is not shocking. They are not content to live and let live, and the agenda is to start early, teaching young girls that they are 2nd class citizens.

  659. I am glad you are not my Rabbi.

  660. Living in Dallas, and having had similar experiences with DATA, I just have to say I think it is very odd that Rabbi Rosenblatt would choose to engage a perfect stranger for exercising her right as an American to express her political opinion. Next stop, Taliban city? Good for you Mr. Silverman, and just remember, when people are insecure about their own beliefs, that is when they want to monitor everyone else's.

  661. Rivka I feel like they saw your name, decided what side you'd be on, and neglected to actually read the content of your comments!

  662. Alan Rockman says:

    You are an idiot, Jeff. Sure hope you're not related to Miriam.

  663. Miss our chats we used to, have at Vinces, hope you are both well!

  664. Jeff Eyges says:

    1. I am, and it doesn't surprise me that you know her. Most of her FB friends seem to be reactionary neocons.

    2. There's a reason no one here is responding to you.

  665. Anonymous says:

    Ok, lets just leave religion out of it. ANYONE can see that Sarah Silverman is a bitter pseudo intellectual, who must of 'grew up funny'. ooooo she's sooo edgy…. more like… ooooo she's soooo transparent….. just be glad your not her.

  666. As a secular American Jew I agree that Sarah should not use traditional Jewish terminology in her efforts. Because doing so is a lie.

  667. Come on Arthur don't just be a liberal ******! I'm a secular Jew I agree that Sarah should not use traditional Jewish terminology in her efforts. Because doing so is a lie.

  668. don't just be a liberal ******! I'm a secular Jew I agree that Sarah should not use traditional Jewish terminology in her efforts. Because doing so is a lie.

  669. don't just be a liberal ******! I'm a secular Jew I agree that Sarah should not use traditional Jewish terminology in her efforts. Because doing so is a lie.

  670. Laura East says:

    Dear Rabbi,
    I find your letter interesting and I think that maybe you are coming from a good place, though I do think you are commenting on Sarah's personal choices that are none of your business. I will agree with you that children are a definite blessing. God has blessed me to have seven and there are definitely wonderful aspects to raising children. I wonder though how involved you have been in more than just the "earning for the brood." I, myself, had a husband who also spent his days "earning for the brood", and, also, who was a man of God who ministered to people as well. I stayed home with our children and ministered to them. This was a choice that we made for our family and it worked out pretty well for us. But, as much as I appreciated my husband for all his hard work, he really didn't have a clue as to what my days were really like on the frontlines with the 24/7 nitty gritty everyday work that goes into actually keeping all our children alive and thriving in the world. I know with an absolute certainty that I would love your wife and that we would probably get along really great and be able to share more than a few stories and maybe have quite a few laughs. We would probably instantly bond over war stories of what it is really like to be on those frontlines raising children. You, though, I think maybe you are like my husband. I am sure that you love your children with the depths of your soul, but I think your wife has been the one who has done most of the heavy day to day lifting and mind numbing chores that have kept your children's bodies and souls together. You didn't say how old your children are, so I am not sure how far along you are in the raising part. My oldest is 27 and my youngest is 13, so I have in the last few years been blessed to see the fruit begin to grow on the plants I tended for oh so many years. (My oldest has just started a three year fellowship for her Phd, and the next oldest just graduated from Harvard Law School. The younger five are still very much works in progress.) It is a truly amazing thing to have the privelege to be able to participate and witness a person becoming who God has meant them to be. I absolutely love the surprise of it all. But, that being said, there have many times, particularly when my kids were younger, that I thought I would lose my mind it was so incredibly difficult. Physically difficult, mentally difficult, and even spiritually difficult. My husband had his own difficulties earning the money that provided for our kids, and I don't for a minute want to diminish that. The stress of that probably was one of the factors that led to his early death of a heart attack at the age of 52. But, although he helped out with the kids, he really did not know what my world was really like, and that often led him to criticize my experience, and even to devalue it. And in all fairness, I really didn't know what his world was really like, nor did I really have total compassion for his experience. And that leads me back to your open letter. You are welcomed to your opinions about other peoples' lives, but I don't think you really should be writing a public letter to anyone sitting in judgement of their choices. It is extremely hard to really know what a person's life is like, even someone in your own household, so far be it for you to judge someone you don't even know personally. If God wants us to be anything towards others, then it is to be compassionate even when we really don't understand or agree about what their life is or appears to be. But, that being said, I would really love to hear from your wife! I am sure she is an extraordinary woman!

  671. Max Myers says:

    If I'm a ******, which, Theo, is actually spelled schmuck, would that not make you the smegma? Yes, it would. Now, run off an put some salve on your spanked boty, you silly little boy.

  672. Kristen Skeet says:

    I said nothing about anything Jewish. I simply told the Rabbi to not presume to know something about the desires of the feminine soul.

  673. Come on Arthur don't just be a liberal ******! I'm a secular Jew I agree that Sarah should not use traditional Jewish terminology in her efforts. Because doing so is a lie.

  674. Come on Arthur don't just be a liberal ******! I'm a secular Jew I agree that Sarah should not use traditional Jewish terminology in her efforts. Because doing so is a lie.

  675. Come on Arthur don't just be a liberal ******! I'm a secular Jew I agree that Sarah should not use traditional Jewish terminology in her efforts. Because doing so is a lie.

  676. Come on Arthur don't just be a liberal ******! I'm a secular Jew I agree that Sarah should not use traditional Jewish terminology in her efforts. Because doing so is a lie.

  677. Come on Arthur don't just be a liberal ******! I'm a secular Jew I agree that Sarah should not use traditional Jewish terminology in her efforts. Because doing so is a lie.

  678. Come on Arthur don't just be a liberal ******! I'm a secular Jew I agree that Sarah should not use traditional Jewish terminology in her efforts. Because doing so is a lie.

  679. Typical Liberal no substance just hot air!

  680. I am unclear who you are addressing. But regardless, an argumentum ad hominem is a poor way to counter a pov you disagree with. If Sarah Silverman's video offends you, please stop watching it. Rabbi Rosenblatt could have easily expressed his disagreement by NOT engaging in an argumentum ad hominem. His response to her video is invalidated by a poisonous attack on her person, and it reinforces the stereotype that Orthodox Judaism negatively perceives women.

  681. J.j. Adler says:

    Cyna: you are full of contradictions here: "judge and executioner. that is G-d's job. Yours is to walk away from people you think are this wrong." According to your logic, this statement should apply not only to the Rabbi, who publicly judged Sarah — someone he disagreed with — but to you as well, who came on this site to publicly comment on a reply you disagreed with instead of just "walking away." Hmmm…

    And then there is this: "The Rabbi has the right of free speech. I am so disappointed that anyone thinks vile speech is justified." Wait, ONLY the Rabbi has the right to free speech? No matter how vile? But for anyone else, Mr. Silverman included, vile speech is not justified, even when it's in rejoinder to hateful attacks? According to your logic it seems that the Rabbi is held to a standard of American law, but everyone else, including Mr. Silverman is held to a standard of Jewish law.

    (For the record: I said Mr. Silverman's outrage was warranted — meaning it seems to me that is entitled to feel angry at the Rabbi for publicly attacking his daughter's personal life. Everyone is entitled to their feelings. I did not say I felt the way he expressed those feelings on this site were justified. I'll thank you not to put words in my mouth in the future.)

  682. Elaine Walkden says:

    Oh, NOEZ. Sarah Silverman doesn't want to have bahbbies! What kind of a wuhmyn is she?

    I want to know why childfree by choice people (okay, really, women) pose such a threat to certain segments of society. Our choice affects no one.

  683. Ryan Gorsuch says:

    Dear Rabbi, I stand with you. May God bless you for standing up for what is right. As Don Colacho wrote, "The most subversive book in our time would be a compendium of old proverbs." The comments here prove that to be true.

  684. Moe Murphy says:

    LIstening to all this jibberjabber between the Jews makes me wonder, why did we stop Hitler? anybody?

  685. Max Myers says:

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Idiot.

  686. Wow. Condescending, lacking any real insight — not even well reasoned. Amazing how little this guy understands about how his words are perceived by others.

  687. "Cyna, if the Rabbi had simply taken issue with the content of Sarah's video none of the name calling would be justified." Those are your words Mr. Adler not mine. I am not the one full of contradictions. You didn't even read what I wrote. " You can defend your daughter's right to be as crude as she wishes to be, because that's her right in the United States of America. But just remember, that along with her rights come Rabbi Rosenblatt's… I will defend them both. I don't agree with either of them." Yeah, that's what I wrote, so to quote you, Mr. Adler, Don't put words in my mouth either. I wrote this commentary because I am sick of Jews attacking Jews. I have no reason to have anything to do with the Silvermans or the Rabbi, but I will defend all Jews 24/7., Even the ones you don't like. Even you, Mr. Adler.

  688. J.j. Adler says:

    If you're defending both, why is your comment addressed to Mr. Silverman alone? In fact, why did you comment at all if you feel they are both equally wrong? Why was the following only addressed to Mr. Silverman? "You spout tolerance as long as it isn't towards ANYONE who doesn't agree with you."

    And why don't you follow your own advice of just moving along when someone says something you don't agree with?

    Did I write that that Mr. Silverman's words were justified? I did not. Twice you've tried to misquote me and twice you've only been able to infer something I did not say from a different statement I made. You'd be better served responding to the things I actually wrote.

    And I don't need you to defend me against anything. But thanks for the offer!

  689. J.j. Adler says:

    Oh, and I didn't put words in your mouth Cyna. I quoted you directly.

  690. J.j. Adler says:

    Also: I didn't put words in your mouth Cyna. I quoted you directly.

    But I doubt your commitment to defending all jews 24/7…unless you meant you would defend only all orthdox jews 24/7?

    You describe Mr. Silverman's and the comments of his defenders as "hate". Yet, though you don't agree with everything he said, the Rabbi's letter is not "hate" but, according to your description "free speech."

    The problem is that the people who disagree with you and the Rabbi here feel his letter was filled with hate, judgement, and condescension. Both men are entitled to Freedom of Speech. in this country. But if you're going to accuse one side of bad form, don't hold the other to a lesser standard. And specifically, my point is: if anything, the Rabbi committed the analogous "premeditated" crime here. Mr. Silverman was, if you will, acting in self defense. Both are wrong but it was the Rabbi who set the bad behavior in motion by failing to make a salient point in his letter in favor of personally, publicly, and inelegantly attack a woman for her life choices.

  691. J.j. Adler says:

    Cyna: you described Mr. Silverman's and the comments of his defenders as "hate". Yet, though you don't agree with everything he said, the Rabbi's letter is not "hate" but "free speech."

    The problem is: the people who disagree with you and the Rabbi here feel his letter was filled with vile hate, judgement, and condescension. Certainly both men are entitled to Freedom of Speech in this country. But if you're going to accuse one side of "vile language," don't hold the other to a lesser standard.

    More specifically, the point I was trying to make to you was and is: if anything, the Rabbi committed the analogous "premeditated" crime here. Mr. Silverman struck back, if you will, acting in self defense. Both behaved poorly, but it was the Rabbi who set the negative behavior in motion: he failed to make a salient point about Sarah's politics in his letter and instead personally, publicly, and inelegantly attacked her.

    In your comment, you have revealed your bias by addressing Mr. Silverman alone and condemning his response (as well as those of his defenders) before condemning the hateful content of the Rabbi's letter that set this entire debate off.

    Given the above, I highly doubt your commitment to defending "all jews 24/7"…unless you meant you would defend only all orthdox jews 24/7….

  692. Gregory Rutchik says:

    I tend to discount men or anyone whose essential argument to women is go and make babies, that's your role. What a missed opportunity to convince anyone that you have anything to say.

  693. Barbara McGlamery says:

    Weird article. Why is he so concerned about her?

  694. Mr. Adler…. you are guessing and wrongly, by the way, as to who I am and what I represent. I will not go there with you and will stick to my original premise that vile language is vile language and has no content. I will once again, since you missed it three times, say that I do not agree with 50% of what Rabbi Rosenblatt said. I will however, defend his right to say it. You may now go off into whatever tirade you wish. I have made all the points I wish to make. Good luck to you Mr. Adler, and I hope you find peace and acceptance in your heart for people with whom you don't agree.

  695. Hey Rosenblatt–I'm a 47-year-old actress, writer, and amateur astronomer, and guess what? I'm single with no kids and deliriously happy. I've also been passionate about progressive politics and changing the world for more than 30 years. There is nothing more positive than doing all one can to make the world a better place. When I went to Occupy Wall Street at Zuccotti Park last year, I felt I was genuinely on holy ground, at a place where the bottom line was compassion rather than greed. There are many paths to fulfillment for women; not all of us are suited to marriage and children. Some of us love our freedom, and it would be wrong to push us into marriage if that path isn't for us. The world already has seven billion people and counting, and we cannot even afford to have everybody reproduce. Please get your mind and priorities out of the Dark Ages and join the 21st century, where we recognize many equally valid paths to a meaningful and happy life.

  696. P Edward Murray says:

    Even in The New Testament, St Paul talks about two paths that God gives us, being married or being single. When married you have vowed to love, honor and chereish your spouse and if God blesses you with children then of course you have the responsibility of taking care of them. Singles are charged by God to do his work, things that marrieds can't do.

  697. P Edward Murray says:

    Although I think Sarah is incredibly pretty, I don't at all agree with her comedy. Perhaps it is successful but not so much for finding a mate?

  698. J.j. Adler says:

    Cyna: deflecting my argument by calling it a "tirade" isn't a counter argument. You keep ignoring my point: we agree that vile language is vile language. But: why have you only called out one side for vile language (the side who acted defensively) and not the instigator (the Rabbi)? It seems that you agreed with 50% of the Rabbi's statement, yet defend his right to say 100% of it. But Mr. Silverman doesn't have a right to what he said. Again, people here think the RABBI's comment are vile and filled with hate too. Why only admonish Mr. Silverman?

  699. J.j. Adler says:

    Cyna: deflecting my argument by calling it a "tirade" isn't a counter argument. You keep ignoring my point which I won't restate again because I couldn't have put it more clearly above and, therefore, doubt you are even reading these posts.

    Regarding your 50% remark, I did say pretty clearly above: "though you don't agree with everything he said, the Rabbi's letter is not "hate" but "free speech." " The words "though you don't agree with everything he said" is referring to the 50% you keep asserting I missed.

  700. But maybe finding a mate isn't her reason for her comedy. What I can't stand is the assumption that every woman's number one priority is finding a mate. For some of us, it's just not important.

  701. P Edward Murray says:

    Don't know if that is important to her or not:)

  702. First off, I'd like to say that neither Sarah nor Donald Silverman asked to be attacked, rebuked, denounced, or any other hate spewed in their direction by this "righteous and pious man". Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but to spew bile directed at the two of them is wrong. I find it ironic that many people in this publication and commenters on this site attack them as self loathing jews. All of you are guilty of the same. Even to question the halachic validity of her ancestry is engaging in hate/ division. All of you must recognize that the orthodox and haredi are but a small percentage of jews. To validate your attack according to shulchan aruch, tanach, gemorra, or any other religiously based rational can never be anything other than circular.

    The fact of the matter is that she and her dad are jewish, halachically and otherwise. To say that they are not good jews is just not justifiable. It is engaging in self loathing just the same. Many jews have similar backgrounds and reject the religious aspects of judaism. However, rejecting the Silvermans for whatever reason is counterproductive.

    Furthermore, the initial attack on Sarah was just as much an attack on her father and his parenting skills. His coming to her defense and the resulting letter fully demonstrate this. All of his daughters are a source of deep pride for him and rightly so. They are all successful and accomplished talents. I fully respect his response. Is he justified in his approach and language? If it were my family, I would have had less restraint than he had. I would have gone for the jugular and attacked that person/ people relentlessly.

    With regard to her act, approaches to getting her point across, and blatant disregard for things you hold dear I would say, "so what" (or BFD might be more appropriate). She is fully entitled to perform and do as she does. If you don't like it, don't watch it. This is the USA and free expression should be prized. If nothing else, she is thought provoking. She joins a long history of performance in the avante guarde that engage in spitting on, urinating on and otherwise offending the audience. It has been long recognized as a valid form of expression.

    Now, you people take offense in her doing this and identifying as a jew? She is somehow chastised for this. She identifies herself as a secular or cultural jew. Here is where the double standard applies.

    Everyone is jumping on the bandwagon and condemning her for such action, behavior and performance. Where is the outcry about others who do this? Is it ok for Sacha Baron Cohen to do the same things and worse? Complicate that in the fact that he self identifies as an orthodox jew. Although he doesn't wear a Kipah, he is generally considered observant. How can this not be more offensive? Why is Natalie Portman not chastised by you over her pre-marital sex and the like? Bar Rafaeli, for her relationship with DiCaprio? You grumble about halacha, but it's only a problem with the Silvermans?

    YOU ARE REPREHENSIBLE!

    Lastly, as an ashkenaze jew, who can trace back generations on all sides of my family, and bar mitzvah'd in an orthodox shul. I understand her perspective on having children. I love my kids. I do my best to support them in all there endeavors. However, with the genepool that I've been given, her perspective comes easily. Her mother has an autoimmune blood disease and she chronic depression. I have Multiple Sclerosis, Gilbert's, a congenital Hiatal Hernia and Dyslexia. My sister has MS, too. So did a great aunt. My son has already been diagnosed with dyslexia among other maladies. My daughter has chronic GERD. If I knew then, what I do now. I wouldn't wish my maladies on anyone. My hopes are that they are not saddled with half my illnesses and maladies.

    Sarah and her dad are to be celebrated. So are all other jews who contribute to this world. Rather than attacking and being divisive among all of these jews, this publication should serve to unify and celebrate.

    Rant ended.

  703. Mark Andrew Holmes says:

    Nice of him to psychoanalyze and diagnose somebody for a viewpoint other than his own.

  704. Steven Carr says:

    Males, you can fit all they know about females into a thimble and still have room for your thumb:-) goes double or maybe triple for religious males:-)

  705. P Edward Murray says:

    Actually, very few priests are like that, Arie, why don't you tell the truth?

  706. Steven Carr you have no right to decide what others know. Please do not infer your deficits on knowledge onto others. I do admit woman are a wonderful mystery. I would say I know enough to over fill a thimble.

  707. I am sure glad I reproduced 3 beautiful children now young adults. They are smart, attractive, and athletic. My children have given me extreme pride and an assurance of my immortality. I never found a mate she found me.

  708. Occupy Wall Street was the liberal experiment on using Brown Shirts like they did on Kristallnacht. It was a huge FAIL. The so called college graduates received diplomas on useless degrees. We have a country full of college degrees that have no jobs for there matriculation. Universities have become for huge profit diploma mills. Most American companies have found that an American educated job applicant does not have the knowledge or skills. It is so bad that Caterpillar no longer will hire High school graduates. The HS graduate no longer has analytical and critical reasoning skills to do an entry level position. I guess all that emphasis on self-esteem left the students short of the landing strip.
    All I saw at Zuccotti park where young adults who had little or no desire to work. I would say the progressive movement has not been progressive but regressive. My proof is have you ever notice how a progressive will interrupt a speaker they don't agree with. They are always disruptive they always go to name calling usually with adhominum, if that does not work there is always egg throwing.

  709. Charles Terry But what's right for you isn't necessarily right for me. I'm sure you wouldn't want to push a person who doesn't want kids into having them. That is a recipe for disaster. Why can't we equally value all lifestyle choices?

  710. Charles Terry I'm not sure what you're referring to with the remark about "brownshirts." Who are you describing with this term? Occupy was not a failure. It was the beginning of a movement of pushing back by the 99 percent who have been robbed and cheated by big corporations that care nothing for this country. I was at Zuccotti Park, and saw that those present were not just young people but members of all generations. There were grandparents and World War II veterans there. There were people of every generation who want to work but can't get jobs because there aren't any jobs–they've all been outsourced to China and India and other Third World countries. As far as interrupting speakers, that is done by people on all sides of the political spectrum. Mitt Romney did it a lot last night.

  711. Charles Terry No one at Zuccotti Park threw any eggs. There are always one or two people who act on their own and do things like this but they don't represent anyone other than themselves. Two of my supporters had their houses egged when I was running for town council. I agree that high schools aren't doing a good job teaching critical thinking skills, and there are a lot of reasons for this, including over reliance on test scores.

  712. Yitz Jordan says:

    Without getting into this:

    "You said you wouldn’t get married until gay people can. Now they can."

    Now gay people can get married — despite the best efforts of many Orthodox rabbis and organizations like the Va'ad ha'Rabbonim speaking vehemently at state legislature and private podium alike. If we were to follow this line of reasoning, aren't right-wing politicians and lobbyists as responsible for Ms. SIlverman's delaying her chuppah as anything else?

    "Well now they can, so go get married!" Shoutout to absolving oneself…

  713. JoséLuis Alonso Barreras says:

    Rabbi is right BUT nobody ask his opinion about Sarah.

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Many people have a problem with the Chick-fil-A chain of chicken restaurants. Universities have asked it to leave campus cafeterias and mayors have tried to ban it from their cities. The Jewish mayor of Chicago summed up his displeasure by saying “Chick-fil-A values are not Chicago values.”

I am haredi. I was born in Brooklyn, went to mainstream haredi elementary and high schools, spent two years in Mir Yerushalayim and attended kollel at Beth Medrash Govoha in Lakewood, New Jersey. I wear a black hat on Shabbos and dark pants and a white shirt much of the week. My yarmulke is large, black and velvet, and being a frum and inspired Jew is my most basic self-definition, on par with being human and male.

“The Scream,” a unique and evocative painting by Norwegian artist Edvard Munch (1863-1944), sold recently at Sotheby’s for nearly $120,000,000. The price was attributed to its being the last of four editions still in private hands and the fact that it has been an icon of Western culture for over a century. The colors are vivid, the mood is stark, and the being on the bridge is overwhelmed by his surroundings. It captures a man alone in a world awry.

Tonight I installed an Internet filter. I have always disliked filters as they slow down my computer and have been an annoyance. But the asifa at Citi Field focused my attention and an extra safeguard is worth infinitely more than the discomfort it engenders.

Half a year after our marriage in 1997, my parents called and said they couldn’t attend the Agudath Israel of America convention and had extra tickets. Would my wife and I want to go in their place? We were newlyweds in every sense of the word and cherished the opportunity of a new experience. “Certainly,” we said and made the trek from Lakewood to Parsippany in the state of New Jersey.

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