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The Admor who Sits in Bavel and Sees a Carcass in Eretz Yisrael

Rav Aviner answers the Admor of Satmar, who dwells in the Exile, and claimed the murder of the boys was punishment for the teens learning in the "Settlements" and blames the parents for sending them to learn there.
Satmar Rebbi

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In the wake of our tremendous pain over the murder of the three innocent teens, a desire has arisen within the Nation to understand why this has happened. The Admor of Satmar, who dwells in the Exile, claims that it is a punishment for the teens learning in the “Settlements” and blames the parents for sending them to learn there.

We fear that assigning such blame may violate the prohibition of “Ona’at Devarim” (distressing others). As the Gemara in Baba Metzia (58b) says, one may not speak to one who is suffering affliction or illness, or whose children have died, the way Iyov’s friends spoke to him: “Surely your fear was your foolishness, your hope and the sincerity of your ways” (Iyov 4:6). And we can add that the Rishonim on this Gemara write that the problem is not only causing distress to another person but also arrogance in thinking that we can know the ways of Hashem.

This recalls the reciprocal placing of blame that occurred following the horrors of the Holocaust: Some said that it happened on account of Zionism, others said it was because there was not Zionism. Still others blamed it on the Enlightenment. Each group’s explanation came from its own biased outlook, with no regard for the idea: “For My thoughts are not your thoughts and My ways are not your ways” (Yeshayahu 55:8).

As is known, the uncle of the Admor of Satmar, Ha-Rav Yoel Teitelbaum, wrote a book “Va-Yoel Moshe” which is based on the idea that the murder of the holy one during the Holocaust was because of Zionism and the Return to Tzion.

But the great Rabbis of Israel have already answered that if the main transgression was Jews making Aliyah to Eretz Yisrael in an organized fashion, then the first Jews to make Aliyah should have been murdered. Yet those who came to Eretz Yisrael and “violated” the Three Oaths (according to the Satmar Rebbe’s opinion) were saved, and those who did not make Aliyah were the ones who were murdered! (See the book “Alo Naale” – Response to Va-Yoel Moshe #43).

The number of Jews murdered in Auschwitz alone was, in fact, higher than that of all of the Jews murdered in all of the wars and terror attacks since the beginning of the Return to Tzion. Today – with the kindnesses of Hashem upon us – there are almost half a million Jews who live in Yesha. Therefore the Admor of Satmar’s claim is not valid.

Regarding the question itself, whether learning in Yesha is permissible: this was already asked of Ha-Rav Yitzchak Zilberstein, Rabbi of “Ramat Elchanan” (neighborhood in Bnei Brak).

A student was learning in a Yeshiva in Yesha and his parents were opposed on account of the danger. Ha-Rav Zilberstein proves that “a frequent damage” (Pesachim 8b. See Mesilat Yesharim, end of Chapter 9) is five percent. Baruch Hashem, 5% of the residents in Yesha are not murdered! And Ha-Rav Yitzchak Isaac Herzog in Shut Heichal Yitzchak proved based on Shut Rabbi Akiva Eiger (#60) that a frequent danger is not five percent, but one in a thousand (Shut Ha-Rav Herzog Vol. 1, p. 269).

Baruch Hashem, one in a thousand Jews is not murdered in “Yeshe”.

The basic halachah is therefore that there is nothing to fear. Obviously, nothing is 100% certain, but nowhere in this world is 100% safe, not Yerushalayim and not Tel Aviv, and it is all based on the definition of “a frequent damage”.

We agree with the Admor of Satmar that there are many Arab murderers in Eretz Yisrael, but we must see things in proportion. We have already been living in Yesha for 40 years and the number of murders that occur there is extremely low. The same is true in all of Eretz Yisrael. We must remember that according to a report of the WHO, World Health Organization, 8 out of 100,000 Israeli citizens are murdered each year. That’s compared with 15 out of 100,000 citizens in France, and 25 out of 100,000 Americans. Therefore, it is more dangerous for the Admor of Satmar, may he live a long and good life, Amen!, to live in America than to live in the “Settlements”! We must thank Hashem, and his loyal agents – Tzahal, the police, the Mossad, the Shabak and the rest of the security establishment – day and night for the peace and quiet we merit in our Land.

In the Gemara in Chullin (63b), Rabbi Abayu asks: Why is there a bird called “Ra’ah” (the one who saw)? He answers: Because he sits in Bavel and sees a carcass in Eretz Yisrael. The great Rabbis explain that this is a parable to someone who dwells outside of Eretz Yisrael and see the deficiencies in Eretz Yisrael and speaks Lashon Ha-Ra against it…

This obviously in no way detracts from the incredible merits of the Admor of Satmar in strengthening Torah and fear of Hashem in America, and we pray regarding them: “May our eyes behold Your return to Tzion in compassion”.

Prepared and translated by Rabbi Mordechai Tzion

About the Author: Rav Shlomo Aviner is the Rosh Yeshiva of Yeshivat Ateret Yerushalayim. You can read Rav Aviner's blog at: www.ravaviner.com


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43 Responses to “The Admor who Sits in Bavel and Sees a Carcass in Eretz Yisrael”

  1. another crazy one speaks up

  2. Dani Katz says:

    Just as Islam has its extremist crazies, so too, does Judaism.

  3. This guy is like the Jewish version of the Westboro Baptist Church, right?

  4. Gina Abraham says:

    Satmars all the same!

  5. Wow, he’s good. I would have just called the guy an idiot and moved on.

  6. Norma Biblow says:

    What can we do to have Hachdut today! Do mitzvot and learn Torah serving G d? 613 mitzvot to do, we can be busy doing good and ignore the rest!

  7. Wrong time to say this. Thought wrong to disrespect dead and living?

  8. And I thought only in Pakistan we have facists….

  9. The satmars should stick to bikur cholim and leave the paskening to the true gedolim.

  10. Evil has no excuse, evils does not need an excuse, evil just is.

  11. this article looks to me as some nuts criticizing other nuts…stop living in the past!

  12. this article looks to me as some nuts criticizing other nuts…stop living in the past!

  13. this article looks to me as some nuts criticizing other nuts…stop living in the past!

  14. Armor? You mean The Katan of KJ of course

  15. Armor? You mean The Katan of KJ of course

  16. Shame on the “Jewish” press for putting themselves right in middle of this machlokes. You belong NOWHERE near this. This is why your subscription rates have plummeted.

  17. Why they only blame God with the bad stuff and they call themselfs Rabbis , the Torah is Clear and Tanach in Yejez·qé’l 33:11 , and those families and those young jewish brothers that were killed they were good people ,stupid Rabbis

  18. there is always some idiot who talks without thinking like the priest that said everyone in haiti deserved to to die in the earthquake a few years ago because they practice voodoo with catholism at a rate of 95 % of the country this people go to church everyday nothing is good enough for some people

  19. Uzi Kattan says:

    Rasha! And he calls himself an Admor but his comments are fit for a chamor! What Hillul Hashem!

  20. Uzi Kattan says:

    If he was a talmid chacham he wouldn’t insult the murder victims. How despicable to even say that!

  21. farrakhan does good things for the black community too, that doesnt change the fact that he’s an antisemite

  22. Gil Gilman says:

    More to the point is 33:12. Same result.

  23. The Stamars and like sectarians-MINIM were halachically EXCOMMUNICATED from Judaism. This global Cherem was headed by the Vilna Gaon and one thousand GEDOLIM-rabbanim both Ashkanzee and Sephradic rabbis were included! Boycott all Satmars Kosher products. CRC from Brooklyn. NOT TRIANGLE CRCITS FROM CHICAGO.

  24. Gil Gilman says:

    The following is a statement with which I can fully agree. "Each group’s explanation came from its own biased outlook, with no regard for the idea: “For My thoughts are not your thoughts and My ways are not your ways” (Yeshayahu 55:8)."

  25. CRC Kosher(sic) from Brooklyn is Satmar! CRC triangle is from Chicago and is OK

  26. Gil Gilman says:

    The intent of the excess verbiage is both redemptive and punitive, whereas calling him an ******* to his face is neither. It only vents your spleen.

  27. The Satmars are MOSRIM-Traitors according to Halacha. The Rambam-Maimonides in Nezkin Hilchous Nezkin Chvahle uMahzik Chapter 8: Paskens!(Halachic Decision)A Moser(traitor)is a Jewish person who turns over another Jewish person to GOYIM or Jewish property to goyim! This person(s)has no Olam Haba ipso fact goes to Gehahnahm-Hell! Furthermore the moer is to be executed without a Bet Din! The Rambam states"Even though today we don't have the Bet Din to execute, it is permissible,it is a Mitzvah whoever executes the Moser is meritorous. The Satmars openly give aid and comfort to the Arabs via ads in the Gentile Newspapers as huge ads in the New York Times, march together in USA, Europe and in the Middle East. The Satmars advocate giving away the most precious of all Jewish property Eretz Yisroel thus they are Mosrim! BOYCOTT ALL SATMAR KOSHER ENDORSED PRODUCTS CRC! In resturants ask woose Scheita-slauther is it! If, Satmar ask for a different schitah or walk out and tell them why!

  28. In addition to the RAMBAM definition of Moser, is the Shulchan Aruch-Definitive Code of Jewish Law. Its definition of Moser is"Whomever turns over a Jewish person or Jewish property to the Goyim are Mosrim-traitors.. They have no place in Olam Haba-the world to come,thus they go to Gehenahm-Hell. It is permissible to Execute a Moser in any place and in any era." The Satmars give aid and comfort to the GOYIM who murder and wish to take our most precious property-Eretz Yisroel!(Source: The Shulchan Aruch Choshein HaMishpat Hilchous Mahbahd Mahmohn Chapter 388)

  29. WATCH every Wednesday 10:00AM & 6:00PM New York Time go to bcat.tv scroll down to Community Media then click on Brooklyn Public Network then click on arrow in Channel 2 In addition, every Thursday 12:00 noon New York Time go to number 4 Judaism click beneath it on Watch now

  30. The Satmars attacked Jews in Europe and in America. Prior to coming to the USA Yohlee TeitelBUM ordered to chop off HALF THE BEARD of the Spinkah Rebbe which they did! Then the Satmars in Europe put frogs and nails into the LADIES MIKVAH of the SPINKA CHASIDIM! In the USA they blow up the Matzoh factories in Williamsburg Brooklyn of the KLAUSENBURG CHASIDIM, who were physically beaten and had to move to New Jersey. The Satmars were brutally beating LUBAVITCHERS in Brooklyn. A Satmar SHOCHAT-ritual cattle slaughterer met with me secretly in Boro Park he told me that the Satmar Scheita was TREIF the Chalif-Knive are not kosher. He was warned by the Satmar Kehilla cease and desist. He was physically threatened and escaped from Willamsurg to Boro Park. they pursued him in Boro Park and he ran for his life to Israel. He is known as the Heilmeener Rov. The community became aware of another non-kosher issue the Satmars were selling Chalev Medowrasow(treif fat). All the butchers shops supermarkets stopped buying them and the public. The Satmar send their own goon squad HEAVY .Burly thugs with baseball bats and iron bars threatening store owners to buy again therir TREIF MEAT. BOYCOTT ALL SATMAR PRODUCTS CRC from Brooklyn. The Triangle CRC from Chicago is not Satmar.

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