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In Israel, grades 8 and 9 will begin learning about the theory of evolution starting next year, according to a YNet report.

The theory, which will be taught as part of the general science curriculum, will also be taught in state-religious schools.

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As it is in many places, the decision is controversial, though in Israel, there are many religious, Jewish scientists who have no problem reconciling religion and science.

We recommend reading some of the books by Professor Gerald Schroeder on the subject, and of course Rabbi Natan Slifkin’s The Challenge Of Creation.

Speaking of which, it reminds me of a story…

A famous biologist was sitting next to a famous Rabbi and his grandchild on a flight to somewhere. Throughout the flight, the very polite and quiet grandchild took care of anything his grandfather needed.

At the end of the flight the biologist told the Rabbi that he wished his grandchildren were so attentive, polite and caring to him.

The rabbi answered, “That’s the difference between you and me. My grandchild sees me as two generations closer to Moshe Rabeinu and Avraham Avinu. Your grandchild sees you as two generations closer to a monkey.”

 

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286 COMMENTS

  1. G-d cannot lie. The Tanakh was breathed into human hands by the Ruach ha Kodesh. Either one believes this or one does not. There is no compromise. Evolution is a blood libel against the Creator who is the G-d of liife. He spoke according to His will and it was. Those who do not belive the word of G-d are blind and it is not surprising the Word tells us that their hearts and minds are darkened. In fact it says that all who do not believe are ‘fools’. What business does any believer have in trying make the word of the Living G-d subjects the philosophy of those who cannot even see that He exists. Utter madness! The evidence clearly shows, to anyone who is not blinded by the religious belief that has been called ‘Evolution'( I am not speaking in terms of actual scientific definition but the meaning that all matter and life is capable of appearing and developing by random natural processes ), that it is purely a figment of human imagination. It is like the story of the Emperors New Clothes only it cannot even find an Emperor.

  2. Teaching evolution in school will only serve to contribute to the moral decay of Israel and be her downfall. HOW SAD!! HOW BLASPHEMOUS! We really didn’t think Israel would stoop this low! We THOUGHT she was supposed to be the Light to the nations !!

  3. Teaching evolution is another way of denying the Creator. That was Darwin’s intent when he came up with that false theory. This is part of the progressive agenda to deny G-d’s existence although mist of the people who believe in evolution act like apes.

  4. Nations of the world might not know, BUT Israel, G.D chosen and brought up, G.D made you a super country despite all the impossibilities. Preserve you till this day. How dare some of you spat on your G.D like this. Curse will be on all Israel unless this act of rebellion is allowed to fruition.

    Book of Isaiah 1. 2 Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth: for the Lord hath spoken, I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against me. 3 The ox knoweth his owner, and the ass his master’s crib: but Israel doth not know, my people doth not consider.

    please stop this evil. Extreme harsh penalty must apply to people who planed and did this, to turn away an angry Almighty creator.

  5. Must be something new conspiracy. Don’t make human race origin from Monkeys. You are well aware of every thing but since you are on the path of astray and will sure face the wrath of ALLAH as many times had been on you. It is a shame.

  6. Evolution is one big lie.HASHEM was there and no one else.Do we know better than The Almighty? I dont think so, but a world who wants G-d dead , believes in words from stupid men who have no knowledge. You can lie to your self, lie to another but the day will come that you meet your MAKER , and what are you gonna say then.forbid this theory, it destroys the soul of every person.

  7. A famous biologist was sitting next to a famous Rabbi and his grandchild on a flight to somewhere. Throughout the flight, the very polite and quiet grandchild took care of anything his grandfather needed.
    At the end of the flight the biologist told the Rabbi that he wished his grandchildren were so attentive, polite and caring to him.
    The rabbi answered, “That’s the difference between you and me. My grandchild sees me as two generations closer to Moshe Rabeinu and Avraham Avinu. Your grandchild sees you as two generations closer to a monkey.” Your words, not mine. Why do we teach “theory’s” as science? Israel will go down the tubes with the U.S if they teach against G-d’s word.

  8. to quote the article: “At the end of the flight the biologist told the Rabbi that he wished his grandchildren were so attentive, polite and caring to him.

    The rabbi answered, “That’s the difference between you and me. My grandchild sees me as two generations closer to Moshe Rabeinu and Avraham Avinu. Your grandchild sees you as two generations closer to a monkey.”

  9. Good for them!
    Israel should be the shining example of a secular and non-secular cooperation in the Middle East.
    Ignoring a field of science because it makes you uncomfortable is childish and an insult to the scientists who’ve dedicated decades of their lives to moving science and medicine forward.

  10. Did the “famous biologist” have a name or is this an anecdote designed to cause a kneejerk reaction?
    What was the rabbi’s name?
    What was the biologist’s field of study?
    Was it molecular biology, animal husbandry, the human genome project?
    How did the the rabbi know that the biologist was an Atheist?
    Do you know that works can mean different things?
    The word “set” has over 400 definitions.

    Willful ignorance in the 21st Century while using a machine that can link you to nearly every library on Earth is a sin.

  11. Because monkeys are a subspecies of the modern ape and have evolved on their own.
    The question you mean to ask is:
    “Why are there still apes?”
    Because they work.
    Extinction occurs when a species is either unsuccessful or too successful.

    And, genetically, we are apes.

  12. You’re misunderstanding the Torah.
    We were created with G-d like attributes, not in G-d’s likeness.

    And you have very poor knowledge of Torah.
    Sodom and Amorrah were destroyed because they were “proud” and refused to help the stranger.

    Rictor Norton views classical Jewish texts as stressing the cruelty and lack of hospitality of the inhabitants of Sodom to the “stranger”. The people of Sodom were seen as guilty of many other significant sins. Rabbinic writings affirm that the Sodomites also committed economic crimes, blasphemy and bloodshed. One of the worst was to give money or even gold ingots to beggars, after inscribing their names on them, and then subsequently refusing to sell them food. The unfortunate stranger would end up starving and after his death, the people who gave him the money would reclaim it.

    A rabbinic tradition, described in the Mishnah, postulates that the sin of Sodom was related to property: Sodomites believed that “what is mine is mine, and what is yours is mine” (Abot), which is interpreted as a lack of compassion. Another rabbinic tradition is that these two wealthy cities treated visitors in a sadistic fashion. One major crime done to strangers was almost identical to that of Procrustes in Greek mythology. This would be the story of the “bed” that guests to Sodom were forced to sleep in: if they were too short they were stretched to fit it, and if they were too tall, they were cut up (indeed, in Hebrew and Yiddish, the corresponding term for a Procrustean bed is a “Sodom bed”).

    In another incident, Eliezer, Abraham’s servant, went to visit Lot in Sodom and got in a dispute with a Sodomite over a beggar, and was hit in the forehead with a stone, making him bleed. The Sodomite demanded Eliezer pay him for the service of bloodletting, and a Sodomite judge sided with the Sodomite. Eliezer then struck the judge in the forehead with a stone and asked the judge to pay the Sodomite.

    The Talmud and the Sefer haYashar (midrash) also recount two incidents of a young girl (one involved Lot’s daughter Paltith) who gave some bread to a poor man who had entered the city. When the townspeople discovered their acts of kindness, they burned Paltith and smeared the other girl’s body with honey and hung her from the city wall until she was eaten by bees. (Sanhedrin 109a.) It is this gruesome event, and her scream in particular, the Talmud concludes, that are alluded to in the verse that heralds the city’s destruction: “So[36] said, ‘Because the outcry of Sodom and Gomorrah has become great, and because their sin has been very grave, I will descend and see…'”[Gen 18:20-21]

    A modern orthodox position is one that holds, “The paradigmatic instance of such aberrant behavior is found in the demand of the men of Sodom to ‘know’ the men visiting Lot, the nephew of Abraham, thus lending their name to the practice of ‘sodomy’.”

    The scholar and activist Jay Michaelson proposes a reading of the story of Sodom that emphasizes the violation of hospitality as well as the violence of the Sodomites. “Homosexual rape is the way in which they violate hospitality—not the essence of their transgression. Reading the story of Sodom as being about homosexuality is like reading the story of an ax murderer as being about an ax.” Michaelson places the story of Sodom in context with other Genesis stories regarding Abraham’s hospitality to strangers, and argues that when other texts in the Hebrew Bible mention Sodom, they do so without commentary on homosexuality. The verses cited by Michaelson include Jeremiah 23:14,[Jeremiah 23:14] where the sins of Jerusalem are compared to Sodom and are listed as adultery, lying, and strengthening the hands of evildoers; Amos 4:1-11 (oppressing the poor and crushing the needy);[Amos 4:1-11] and Ezekiel 16:49-50,[Ezekiel 16:49-50] which defines the sins of Sodom as “pride, fullness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty, and did toevah before me, and I took them away as I saw fit.” Michaelson uses toevah in place of abomination to emphasize the original Hebrew, which he explains as being more correctly translated as “taboo”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodom_and_Gomorrah#Religious_views

  13. Teaching evolution is another way of denying the Creator. That was Darwin's intent when he came up with that false theory. This is part of the progressive agenda to deny G-d's existence although mist of the people who believe in evolution act like apes.

  14. Nations of the world might not know, BUT Israel, G.D chosen and brought up, G.D made you a super country despite all the impossibilities. Preserve you till this day. How dare some of you spat on your G.D like this. Curse will be on all Israel unless this act of rebellion is allowed to fruition.

    Book of Isaiah 1. 2 Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth: for the Lord hath spoken, I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against me. 3 The ox knoweth his owner, and the ass his master’s crib: but Israel doth not know, my people doth not consider.

    please stop this evil. Extreme harsh penalty must apply to people who planed and did this, to turn away an angry Almighty creator.

  15. Ok, let us see if Archie R. Spires can be such a naysayer and so quick to try to silence everyone when I say this right here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (BTW, I am a very Bible-literate gentile, Protestant, Christian man) OK, so evolution is a solid theory or fact, you say?!?!?! And unless I am misinterpreting the theory, or misquoting some of it’s proposals or tenets, then the evolution theory suggests that over BILLIONS OF YEARS incremental changes took place to animals respiratory systems, nervous systems, muscular systems, skeletal systems causing them to “evolve into new species. Evolution states that over billions of years, single cells became fish, fish became lizards, or birds, lizards became dogs, dogs became monkeys or apes, and monkeys or apes became humans! Ok, well if all of this took billions and billions of years to occur, then why can researchers ONLY come up with good skeletons and good fossils from fish, dogs, cats, lizards, birds, and apes; but hey cannot produce one singular lizard-dog, or dog-monkey, or fish-bird skeleton!?!?!??! What happened to all of those skeletons?!?!?!! ARCHIE?!?!?!?!?

  16. What a shame since the theory of evolution was invented by atheists who hate the Word of G-d which is the truth. G-d created and designed all life and created it perfect from the beginning. All specialized mechanisms are copied by humans from nature to make airplanes, ships, robots, etc but the humans want all the glory for intelligent design!!!??? The DNA also is a written code which is extremely complex and each body had to have billions of specialized cells in place for it to be able to survive. The reason why mankind hate creation is because they want to live according to their lusts and not need to give account of their life at the end of it and be judged by ‘n righteous, holy G-d. Humanism = man wanting to replace G-d

  17. id like to ask all you who believe humans were made in gods image… what particular image is that? i thought we could never look upon the lord as our eyes and body could not wisthstand it… so how are we made in his image??? perhaps it is within the iris of our eyes that reflect the galxies of our universe? maybe its the way our bodies function so perfectly on autopilot? how is it possible to be made in his image????

  18. Mine was Archie Spires.
    He had seven children, owned his house, never missed a day of work, danced with his wife, could work with any tool, and if he didn’t know the answer to something, he’d help you find it.
    He was also a lifelong Atheist.

    He taught me it isn’t what you believe, but how you behave that matters.

    As for my forebears a billion years ago…
    That’s a different story all together.
    -Asher ben’Daniel/Archie R Spires

  19. Even if you have a whole heap of rubber, metal, glass, paint, etc how many billions of years do you have to wait for it to become a Ford Ranger? haha, nothing orders itself into specialized working machines without intelligence!!

  20. Actually, I still read “fairy tales” and I’m well into my 30s.
    It’s called fiction.
    Now, if you’re referring to the independently studied and proven Modern Theory of Evolution…
    Do a little research and get back to me.

  21. Also, I would just like to defend myself before I am even attacked since I threw my religion and Bible literacy out there. I would like to back up that statement with proof. Most Christians are unable to even point out in an argument where the Bible says anything negative about, for example, homosexuality outside of Leviticus much less explain Biblically why the Bible DOES NOT SAY THAT THE EARTH IS ONLY 6000-10,000 YEARS OLD! most Christians are so Biblically illiterate that they just think that if you want to believe the Bible that means you must also believe the Earth is around 7,000 years old or so. Sorry to use this word, but that is retarded! Anyone with any knowledge of the Bible knows that in Genesis right after 1:1 “In the Beginning” that Lucifer is already a beguiling serpent crawling around on his belly as a punishment. This is supposedly “In the Beginning”! Later on, in the major prophets, they mention how perfect of an angel made of the full pattern Lucifer was before he rebelled and fell. THIS ALL TOOK PLACE BEFORE ADAM WAS PLACED IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN! THIS WAS THE FIRST HEAVEN AND EARTH AGE WHICH INCLUDED DINOSAURS (BUT THERE IS NO EVOLUTION AND DINOSAURS AND MAN WERE NOT ON EARTH SIMULTANEOUSLY) AND COULD HAVE BEEN AND PROBABLY WAS BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF YEARS! THEN IN GENESIS, LUCIFER IS ALREADY FALLEN WITH A THIRD OF THE ANGELS AND ALREADY BAD AND BEGUILING AND DECEIVING BECAUSE THIS IS THE SECOND HEAVEN AND EARTH AGE, AND WHEN THIS EARTH IS BURNED UP AND RENEWED; THAT WILL BE THE THIRD HEAVEN AND EARTH AGE! But hey, I did just make a good point that most pro-Torah or pro-Bible, anti-evolution don’t and can’t make because they actually do believe and do argue that Earth is only 6000-10000 years old when the Bible CLEARLY IN PLAIN ENGLISH STATES THIS IS NOT TRUE! ARCHIE!?!??!?!?!

  22. I’ve researched quite a bit and nothing is “proven” that’s why it’s called a theory. Utilize a dictionary then get back to me. Another suggestion would be for you to do your own research rather than relying on what your daddy told you. If you do, you will see the parts of evolution they can’t figure out, they’ve made up.

  23. Sorry, I was doing other things.
    You aren’t quite important enough for me to hang around and see if you’ve replied immediately.

    Because skeletons are, overall, fragile things and a majority of these changes would have occurred under water.
    As for examples of transitional fossils, that took almost a three word search in Google.

    And please, don’t go all crocoduck on me, it’s embarrassing enough for our species when Kirk Cameron does it.

    Here you go:
    http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/lines/IAtransitional.shtml
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_transitional_fossils
    http://www.transitionalfossils.com/

  24. Now I can clearly see that you want evolution to be true because you love perversion, lust and sin which all goes against G-ds creation purposes. You cannot wash your clothes in an oven it was not designed for that, this is the kind of ‘freedom’ you cry for

  25. And I looked at what you posted, and it is yet another THEORY! There is a prehistoric dinosaur bone on the left (because in English we read left to right) and a whale bone on the left. In the middle, there is a question mark above a caption that reads TRANSITIONAL FORM??? SO, THE “EVIDENCE” YOU JUST PRESENTED TO “PROVE THE “EVOLUTION” THEORY HAS THE SAME MISSING LINK/MISSING EVIDENCE PROBLEM THAT YOU HAD IN THE FIRST PLACE! ALL YOU SHOWED ANYONE WAS EXACTLY WHAT I ORIGINALLY CLAIMED AND YOU BACKED UP WHAT I SAID; YOU DID NOT DISPROVE IT! ALL YOU HAVE IS PRROF THAT YOU DON’T HAVE ANY PROOF AND THAT IF YOU COULD JUST FIND THOSE MISSING LINKS THEN YOUR “THEORY” WOULD TOTALLY BE PROVEN! IF you COULD JUST FIND those MISSING LINKS!!!!!!!

  26. Irony is not necessary, Archie. I understand people are free to believe – so as to inquire.
    But, in case you wish, just remind that Newton’s is a law.
    There are others, Einstein’s e.g., which go into certain details, thus generating a specific theory.
    This is not my field os study, and you probalby already know those same simple subtlenesses.

  27. Thank you for this enlightenment. Totally different from what I was ever taught. You are correct I have very poor knowledge of the Torah. I was raised in Europe by nuns and catholics and back then they did not teach the bible let alone the Torah. Then I was taught by pastors that do not follow the Torah or teach the truth…Whom and what to believe anymore??. After being corrected by you, and know now that I am so poorly educated, I will not make any further comments that would be erroneous.

    All of a sudden I am questioning a lot of things. Is Israel God’s chosen people? Is the bible from creation (?) to the end of the book of revelation false?. Did God actually created a being? and what kind of being? Do we know for sure? wow. I am overwhelmed with questions now, and do not believe in what I have been taught.

    Can I read the Torah? Would I understand the Torah? Is it analysed by others to get to the truth? In the Torah is Jesus the son of GOD? I am not a Jehovah’s Witness, but they believe in GOD only being. Not a trinity. Is there a trinity?, a Holy Spirit?

    If you have any links to a Torah teachings please let me know. Will it be a true translation?

    Thank you again I think.
    Daniele Moseley

  28. Must be something new conspiracy. Don't make human race origin from Monkeys. You are well aware of every thing but since you are on the path of astray and will sure face the wrath of ALLAH as many times had been on you. It is a shame.

  29. So what they are saying is that the current ape will evolve into a human like creature in several billion years and the monkey may evolve into the ape and the fish will grow legs and turn into a rabbit of something.
    This whole idea Is flawed.
    We have always been humans. There was no creature we came from nor a creature we will evolve to be.

  30. I surely do not know anymore. Archie Spires just taught me a lot. I was also wrong about Sodom and Gomorrah. Everybody needs to read the explanation of the Torah. I am not sure now if Jesus is really the son of God. omg. i am lost!!!.

  31. The comments here, in both the Facebook and WordPress sections, are too pitiful for words. Could you cavemen please expedite the process of inbreeding yourselves into oblivion? The rest of us would like to get on with the business of attempting to move what’s left of civilization forward.

  32. Jewish people are gods chosen people because….wait for it….it was written by Jewish men.
    Also women need to submit to their man because….wait for it….well, I think you get the point.

    According to Christian faith, all Jews are going to hell because they don’t believe, nor have they accepted Christ as their savior.
    Why? Because the New Testament was written by….wait for it….Jews for Jesus.
    Btw, isn’t the term Jews for Jesus an oxymoron?

  33. @"Uzi" How come it doesn't come as a surprise that you'd be a creationist?. If I had a time machine I'd send you back to 65,000,000 BC. You wouldn't find Fred and Wilma Flintstone, nor Barney and Betty Rubble, but a T-Rex might find you, and Bam! Bam!, you'd be lunch, and today's world would be a better place. Alternatively, I'd send you back to 1932, so King Kong could throw you from the top of the Empire State Building.

  34. God’s Word is the truth. We are all created in His image. Evolution is false teaching to confuse people from the truth. How can this beautiful world and the intricacies it displays beyond our understanding come from a soupy slimed mess and explosion!!?? God is our intelligent Creator! We should not be deceived!! Read God’s Word with an open heart and mind, and seek the truth!

  35. I wouldn’t worry about it, John. Soon enough, we’ll all be in hell, while you and Jesus watch from heaven and laugh until you wet yourselves. I’m quite certain that will give you no end of pleasure. In fact, I bet you’re getting sexually aroused just thinking about it.

  36. =
    The Quantum Physics of Genesis

    In The Beginning.

    Start With One Proton Hydrogen
    Schrodinger’s equation, one of the most basic and formative equations of quantum physics, shown in the case of Hydrogen, a basic and formative element of the universe.

    And Let There Be Light
    The famous Maxwell equations: the basic laws of light. The dynamics of electromagnetic radiation shown in mathematical terms.

    Timespace
    The principle of Time dilation, a mathematical expression of time and space, as captured in Lorentz’s equation.

    Free Will
    The fundamental principle of uncertainty that underlies quantum physics: Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle.

  37. =
    The Revised Book of Genesis
    1. In the beginning, there was a bang. And it was a big bang
    – one that was filled with implications for all that would follow.
    The first consequence was time ; the second was space.

    Chapter 5

    If we take it upon ourselves to rule our planet, it is by our choice, not by having been given permission/authorization to do so by God. If there are ecologically-sound criteria for good stewardship of life on Earth, so be it. But it is our doing. God could care less if our species became extinct tomorrow, just as he didn’t shed a tear for the dinosaurs when they became extinct.

    (By the way, the vast majority of species that have ever emerged from the mud over archeological time on this planet are today extinct, so it would be exceptional if we even lasted a half-million years)

    Indeed, He wouldn’t shed a tear if the Earth fell into the Sun tomorrow and the entire “experiment” went up in smoke.

    [By the way, the Earth will, in fact, “go up in smoke” in about five billion years when our Sun is slated to evolve into a red giant followed by a white dwarf . And the Earth will be uninhabitable long before then, since our inconsistent Sun will gradually warm up and produce a run-a-way green house effect on the Earth (think Venus). Hopefully, we’ll be routinely living out beyond the Ort Cloud by then.]

    So remember, God is a non-caring force in this universe.
    And we had better prepare for all of these contingencies
    (not just wayward asteroids that could hit the Earth at any time).

    Finally, we must take personal responsibility for our ill-mannered behaviors (like warfare or “benevolent/blessed terrorism”),
    if we are to make it even to the next millennium.
    And it’s a matter of choice not fate.

    Consider the following summary of the fundamental differences between the models of creation presented by The Judeao-Christian Book of Genesis and The Revised Book of Genesis (see link below)…

    Obviously, the two models provide quite different “Prime Directives” and implications for what is permitted or desirable
    – in short, what we should be doing with the rest of our lives.

    4. Human Immortality. Recall that, in the Book of Genesis, God specifically prohibited Adam and Eve from eating the fruit of either of two forbidden trees, of distinguished consequence, that were growing in the center of the Garden of Eden:

    (i) “The Tree of Knowledge” (the fruit of which they ate); and

    (ii) “The Tree of Life” (the fruit of which they did not have an opportunity to eat).

    Their punishment for this crime was eviction from the Garden. “And lest they attempted to return and become immortal like God himself, He posted cherubim to the East armed with a ‘whirling and flashing sword’ to guard the path.”

    We, therefore, reckon that the “trajectory” back to the “Tree of Life” was never intended to be a simple matter.
    For example, to our knowledge, no one has ever speculated about the prospect of circumnavigating these second-ranked archangels by slipping back through the garden’s “Western Gate,” or even whether there are supposed to be other gates, simply because there was an explicit mention of an Eastern Gate. [;-)

    It is presumed that these metaphorical trees are intended to pose certain moral dilemmas:

    (i) Must we really be punished for having acquired all of our current knowledge (sexuality/reproduction, mortality, technology, etc.)? and

    (ii) How do we become just like God, anyway?

    Consistent with the Revision of Genesis, the irreverent answers to these questions are as follows:

    (i) No. Through the careful acquisition of knowledge, we shall be rewarded, not punished; and

    (ii) With difficulty. By intensely hard work shall we find that for which we seek.

    Someday, hopefully soon, we shall be able to say, “The time we have dreamed of is at hand.” Then, we shall rightfully take our place on “Mt. Olympus amongst the (Nobel Prizes) gods themselves.”

    In the mean time, we should not be ashamed to confess our true desires to anyone who wants to know. This is the “big enchelada,” and its going to take a lot of collaboration to get it right. So we had better start working to make this a team effort.

    http://www.grg.org/charter/GenesisModel.jpg

    Read the whole stuff at…
    http://www.grg.org/charter/genesis.htm

  38. No mark. In several billion years the sun will swell into a red giant as it runs out of hydrogen in its core and switched to helium for its primary fuel source. It will swell to a red giant and burn the planet to a crisp as earth plunges into the star.

    As this happens we will still be arguing over this because logic does not permit the positive proof of a negative fact and some people will always choose to believe creationism despite the preponderance of evidence that supports evolution.

  39. Jeff, we don’t know you, and you certainly don’t know us. Was that the kindest comment you could make? BTW – we are professional singers, so we will never be “speechless” in the sense you meant it.

  40. Dan Silagi, thank you for your loving and kind remarks! I don’t have to be thrown over the Empire State Building, however, as I’m sitting on the Solid Rock.

  41. Jeff Eyges Since you do not believe the BIBLE is GOD’S WORD….why are you on this thread???? Just to write disgusting words and TRY to harass believers. The trouble you are causing is only to yourself….there is a HEAVEN and a hell….you pick Jeff.

  42. Jeff, since you’re so concerned with “getting on with the business of civilization”, then why are you here spouting off nasty remarks and personal degrading jabs at others peoples comments and concerns. You’re obviously are not here with an uplifting BIBLICAL idea. You’re words are the pitiful one.

  43. Muhammad Fateh, this article is about the Jewish people and their GOD. HIS NAME is NOT allah….HIS NAME is YAHUA!!!! There is NO wrath from allah. But if the Israeli’s deviate from the BIBILE, GOD’S WORD, they will feel the wrath of YAHUA GOD of CREATION,

  44. The comments here, in both the Facebook and WordPress sections, are too pitiful for words. Could you cavemen please expedite the process of inbreeding yourselves into oblivion? The rest of us would like to get on with the business of attempting to move what's left of civilization forward.

  45. Presenting the theory of evolution to the school system for those students who are not familiar with it could set up a most interesting dialogue between those who believe in it and those who disagree with it. Good to know and I heard that Charles Darwin himself did not believe in the theory of evolution. How about that?

  46. Muhammad, those who are not understanding Genesis could fall into the pit of monkeys. Nothing against monkeys in the world for they have their place too. People of the Book not knowing it well enough could get caught up in the theory of evolution. Who will set them on the right pathway? Maybe it will occur her on this forum for those unsure to dig into history to find the truth for only the truth will set them free. Thank you for your commentary to spur us onwards.

  47. I think at this time we need to be concerned with the geopolitical soup humanity is in right now and figure out how we are goin to move forward in our future I think only when humanity bands together for the sake of us and planet earth which is our only home. After we have achieved all of that will we have the luxury of arguing back and forth about our origins. Teaching children the theory of evolution is not what is going to hurt them it is what they are influenced by that will help or harm them as they come into adulthood do we teach them a sense of love and community or do we keep bombarding them with these useless arguments. How about we just let our future generations learn about science in the classroom. As they get older there will be plenty of opportunities to take a theolgy class.

  48. Welcome to the 18th century. This theory has proven itself for the last 150 years and has been demonstrated as one of the most robust theories in science. As for “technologies” it has contributed to, talk to any doctor. It’s the cornerstone of biology.

  49. Opinions are valuable, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY CONFLICT. No one learns anything by not questioning things, or even worse, by not bothering to learn about other viewpoints or beliefs. Teaching evolution and exposing kids to it will not ruin their lives. It will either make real sense to them or validate whatever other beliefs they already had.

  50. Jeff Eyges Since you do not believe the BIBLE is GOD'S WORD….why are you on this thread???? Just to write disgusting words and TRY to harass believers. The trouble you are causing is only to yourself….there is a HEAVEN and a hell….you pick Jeff.

  51. Jeff, since you're so concerned with "getting on with the business of civilization", then why are you here spouting off nasty remarks and personal degrading jabs at others peoples comments and concerns. You're obviously are not here with an uplifting BIBLICAL idea. You're words are the pitiful one.

  52. Muhammad Fateh, this article is about the Jewish people and their GOD. HIS NAME is NOT allah….HIS NAME is YAHUA!!!! There is NO wrath from allah. But if the Israeli's deviate from the BIBILE, GOD'S WORD, they will feel the wrath of YAHUA GOD of CREATION,

  53. Let it be taught as the theory it is along side intelligent design. Put forth the facts shown through honest scientific discoveries of the complexities of 1 cell and let the kids see for themselves…there is no way chaotic activity could produce the absolute precise exactness needed for 1 simple cell to work…

  54. Muhammad, those who are not understanding Genesis could fall into the pit of monkeys. Nothing against monkeys in the world for they have their place too. People of the Book not knowing it well enough could get caught up in the theory of evolution. Who will set them on the right pathway? Maybe it will occur her on this forum for those unsure to dig into history to find the truth for only the truth will set them free. Thank you for your commentary to spur us onwards.

  55. Dixie Vangelisti "Since you do not believe the BIBLE is GOD'S WORD….why are you on this thread???? "

    Dixie, do you understand that this is an online journal for Orthodox Jews? No one else here, apart from the few other evangelicals who've also decided to haunt the place, believes the Bible is God's word, in the way that you do.

    There was a time in which someone like you would have told them they were going to hell as well, but I'm sure that you, like many of your fellow evangelicals, are only too happy to find a loophole for them, or even for conservative Jews of little or no faith, because you're all really practicing the same religion – far right wing conservatism. Everything else is just window dressing.

    "The trouble you are causing is only to yourself….there is a HEAVEN and a hell….you pick Jeff."

    Let's see – elderly gentile lady threatens me with fairy tales from a 3,000 year-old book… nope, I'm afraid I'm not frightened.

  56. John, can you prove that God cannot lie? If it is so why do we have contradictions in the Torah? But even if there were no contradictions, God lied to Jesus and his disciples, God lied to Mohammed, to Krishna … etc. Or do you want to tell me that Christianity, Islam and Hinduism was not approved by God? If they were not approved why are they around? Allegedly nothing can happen on this mud-ball without the approval of God. But then… we all can say that God lied to the others.

    Before you would think otherwise, I am a religious Jew. But sometimes I think that God makes jokes on us on purpose. In other words He misleads us in various ways.

    https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/422752

  57. Jeff Eyges actually we are not to say who goes to heaven or who goes to hell, we cant see into the hearts of mankind only the Lord G-d can, but evolution, the Israelites were warned when they left Egypt. That G-d had chosen them while they were few in numbers, and that the Lord G-d drove out other nations before them, as these nations practiced abominable and detestable things in the eyes of the Lord, and warned them not to follow in their footsteps. Thou shalt have no other gods before Me.” as evolution is trying to do away with G-d existence and bring Israel to nought.

  58. I do believe that Toura is a book from Allah revealed on Mosses Peace be Upon Him. However you guys made load of changes in it, I mean to say your ancestors did this criminal act. You still have chance to be corrected if you really just follow the creator of creations.

  59. Someone cut Genesis out of their Torah. Please, God is not slack concerning his word. When a nation turns from him, He turns from them. He created us from the dust, not the Ape, no one wants to live in exile. So stop this stupid belief system. I believe the word he gave to Jeremiah was: I knew you before I placed you in your mother’s womb. In other words God did not give his word to King Kong…….

  60. unproven theory ! some of the dinosaur bones the evolutionists found were fabricated…on the other hand, every culture around the world has documented the ‘great flood’ of Noe’s day ! and everything in the Bible can be proved prophetically and in reality… shame on Israel for teaching evolutionary garbage to their kids

  61. John, can you prove that God cannot lie? If it is so why do we have contradictions in the Torah? But even if there were no contradictions, God lied to Jesus and his disciples, God lied to Mohammed, to Krishna … etc. Or do you want to tell me that Christianity, Islam and Hinduism was not approved by God? If they were not approved why are they around? Allegedly nothing can happen on this mud-ball without the approval of God. But then… we all can say that God lied to the others.

    Before you would think otherwise, I am a religious Jew. But sometimes I think that God makes jokes on us on purpose. In other words He misleads us in various ways.

    https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/422752

  62. Jeff Eyges actually we are not to say who goes to heaven or who goes to hell, we cant see into the hearts of mankind only the Lord G-d can, but evolution, the Israelites were warned when they left Egypt. That G-d had chosen them while they were few in numbers, and that the Lord G-d drove out other nations before them, as these nations practiced abominable and detestable things in the eyes of the Lord, and warned them not to follow in their footsteps. Thou shalt have no other gods before Me." as evolution is trying to do away with G-d existence and bring Israel to nought.

  63. I do believe that Toura is a book from Allah revealed on Mosses Peace be Upon Him. However you guys made load of changes in it, I mean to say your ancestors did this criminal act. You still have chance to be corrected if you really just follow the creator of creations.

  64. I’m ashamed to see that there are actually creationist Jews out there. And leave it to a creationist to consistently get the theory of evolution TOTALLY WRONG. WE ARE NOT DESCENDANTS OF MONKEYS. It’s Apes, chimps to be exact- which ARE NOT MONKEYS. Seriously people, if you’re going to refute science at least know what you’re refuting. #disgraceful

  65. Dixie Vangelisti “Since you do not believe the BIBLE is GOD’S WORD….why are you on this thread???? ”

    Dixie, do you understand that this is an online journal for Orthodox Jews? No one else here, apart from the few other evangelicals who’ve also decided to haunt the place, believes the Bible is God’s word in the way that you do.

    There was a time in which someone like you would have told them they were going to hell as well, but I’m sure that you, like many of your fellow evangelicals, are only too happy to find a loophole for them, or even for conservative Jews of little or no faith, because you’re all really practicing the same religion – far right wing conservatism. Everything else is just window dressing. There is no doubt in my mind that you’d rather see an Orthodox Jew in heaven than a liberal Christian.

    “The trouble you are causing is only to yourself….there is a HEAVEN and a hell….you pick Jeff.”

    Let’s see – elderly gentile lady who thinks evolution is a lie threatens me with fairy tales from a 3,000 year-old book… nope, I’m afraid I’m not frightened.

  66. > Charles Darwin himself did not believe in the theory of evolution

    Correct, he was convinced, evolution isn’t a faith.. you either understand it or not.

  67. I'm ashamed to see that there are actually creationist Jews out there. And leave it to a creationist to consistently get the theory of evolution TOTALLY WRONG. WE ARE NOT DESCENDANTS OF MONKEYS. It's Apes, chimps to be exact- which ARE NOT MONKEYS. Seriously people, if you're going to refute science at least know what you're refuting. #disgraceful

  68. Sometimes when I get bored of Internet porn I just come to threads like this and watch theists struggle to present an argument. It gives about the same feeling to me as watching a chick give head.

  69. Additionally, apes are evolved from the taxonomis group commonly called “Old Word Monkeys”, which means we are evolved from monkeys as well as apes. Above that is the classification simian, Primate, and mammal. We are all of these things.

    We are most closely related to the chimpanzee, yes. But that does not exclude the broader classification of monkey from our genes.

  70. Dixie Vangelisti
    > Since you do not believe the BIBLE is GOD’S WORD….why are you on this thread

    What does the bible have to do with the jewishpress?

  71. We're not the descendants of chimps, either. Nor gorillas. There was an arthopod which lived a couple million years ago; that ape was the ancestor of both humans and modern-day apes.

  72. There is nothing evil about knowledge. Your church an religion would keep you stupid. Personally preventing people from knowing and learning is the most horrible evil out there.

  73. Additionally, apes are evolved from the taxonomis group commonly called "Old Word Monkeys", which means we are evolved from monkeys as well as apes. Above that is the classification simian, Primate, and mammal. We are all of these things.

    We are most closely related to the chimpanzee, yes. But that does not exclude the broader classification of monkey from our genes.

  74. I know Abrahamic religions have always been associated with ignorance, persecution, and warfare, by here’s a story I pulled out if my ass to make us feel superior.

  75. Israel is more of a project than a nation. It was formed by the UN. It is not really a country. The argument is not between science and religion, but about whether or not anything inherently Jewish can be argued about with a straight face. Pretty simple actually.

  76. I have both dogs and cats. It may seem as though cats kill for the hell of it, but our adorable year-old kitten, Carly, will kill a mouse and bring it to my wife and me, as a sacrificial offering. Or maybe she thinks were just hungry.

  77. “G-d cannot lie.”

    In the Bible an object is described to have a diameter of 100 and a circumference of 300. Anyone who has mastered junior high school math is more believable than “God”.

    I can assure you than many American Jews would cringe in horror at your attacks on Evolution. Intellectually, you are at around the same level as a Holocaust denier.

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