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Hareidim – N.I.M.B.Y.

No one wants Hareidim moving into their neighborhood. But no one is letting them build all-Hareidi communities either.

A Secular woman handing a Hareidi child a "Universal Draft" sticker during a protest.

A Secular woman handing a Hareidi child a "Universal Draft" sticker during a protest.
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Hareidim – obviously they’re worse than the Settlers. Who wants them? Worse, who wants them next living next door to you.

For a supposedly open-minded and tolerant society, some Israelis are very intolerant of Hareidim. So intolerant that they don’t want them as neighbors, while simultaneously complaining about Hareidi neighborhoods being enclaves of intolerance and isolation.

In Friday’s (Jerusalem Post) In Jerusalem, the paper went on its usual rant about Hareidim (legally, mind you) acquiring more property in Jerusalem for their growing needs.

In this latest story, the (secular) residents of Ramat Sharett, who share a border with (Hareidi) Bayit V’Gan woke up nearly too late to stop the “machinations” that put them on the “forward position on the frontlines of the ongoing haredi-secular battle in Jerusalem”.

But luckily these secular residents managed to block the legal hareidi acquisition and construction, and reach a “compromise” with the city, thus acquiring one of the two plots in question for themselves, keeping it out of Hareidi hands who had legally already won it.

This of course follows up with their previous articles on Hareidim making inroads into Kiryat HaYovel, and other “last bastions” of secularism in Jerusalem, to the dismay of the less primitive and more open and tolerant secular residents.

But don’t be concerned, all these people say that Hareidim deserve to have a place to live, just not in their back yard.

But what happens when it’s not in their back yard?

Not surprisingly, it turns out these tolerant secular open-minded progressives don’t want Hareidim to have a place to live there either.

In the Jerusalem Post’s weekend magazine, they interviewed Brian Lurie, the new president of the New Israel Fund (NIF) and Naomi Paiss, their VP of public relations.

There’s so much disgusting stuff to talk about in that article, but one particular paragraph caught my eye.

As you may have guessed from above, there are so few communities that want to let Hareidim in, for fear of them taking over.

As a result, the Hareidim have been working on building in their own towns and cities (one in the Negev, one in Wadi Ara), where they can let their hair down, and not worry about bothering secular Jews with the threat of encroachment.

But, the NIF and other progressive group don’t like the idea that Hareidim should build all-Hareidi towns for themselves. And so they try to block it.

The Jerusalem Post quotes Naomi Paiss, NIF’s VP for public relations,

“…the NIF was involved in a campaign to change what was set up to an all-haredi 50,000-person city placed in the Harish wadi area [JS: think Baqa Al-Gharbiya and Umm el Qutuf] between a regular middle-class town of ordinary Jewish people, a kibbutz down the road and an Arab village up the hill.”

Paiss says the new city would have ruined an area where pluralism is working by artificially throwing in a new ghetto.

She says she has no problem with Hareidim moving into the new development, but the NIF is proud it has suceeded in making the new development open to all.

So let’s analyze her statement, down the road is a left-wing kibbutz ghetto. Up the hill is an exclusively Arab village ghetto (Baka Al-Gharbiya – Arab population 32,000+, Jewish population: 0). And somewhere nearby is a ghetto of middle-class ordinary (presumably secular) Israelis (who would of course welcome in Hareidim with open arms to their town).

So despite all those other ghettos nearby, a new Hareidi ghetto would have ruined the pluralism of the the area. Really.

I don’t know about you, but the hypocrisy is just reeking.

And perhaps there’s something else that Paiss isn’t actually telling us either.

This area, Wadi Ara, is actually an area overwhelmingly populated by Arabs, and not Jews, though it appears to me that she wants you to think otherwise by mentioning a kibbutz and Jewish town alongside and Arab village.

If I were a suspicious fellow, I’d wonder if perhaps the NIF fears that Hareidim moving in, with their high birth rates, would Judaize the Wadi Ara area. While a “pluralistic” town, “open to all” would prevent that from happening.

But I’m not a suspicious fellow, and I’m sure that wasn’t a consideration, even if she implied that there was only a small Arab village nearby, and not a few, including one with over 32,000 Arab residents.

By the way, 50,000 persons, is actually only around 8,800 family-apartments.

Now, let’s look at what the NIF really accomplished in their quest for pluralism.

Instead of an all-Hareidi town, where they could be left alone to bother no one, there will be a “mixed” town with friction points throughout, just like in certain neighborhoods in Jerusalem and Beit Shemesh  - that the In Jerusalem delights in reporting on.

Thanks to the NIF, instead of an all-Chareidi frictionless town now (such as Beitar Ilit, Modiin Ilit, Elad), it will now take 5-10 years for the Hareidim to push out all the secular, all the while those secular residents complain about the Hareidim encroaching on their turf – turf that was originally earmarked for the rapidly growing Hareidi community that no one wants living among them.

And the same is being done to the Hareidim who are trying to build a town down in the Negev. They aren’t really welcome in the nearby towns, and the towns don’t want a Hareidi community built nearby there either, this time ostensibly for “green” reasons.

You can’t have it both ways. You can’t say you don’t want Hareidim in your community, but when they try to build their own towns and communities you block them from doing that too.

You can’t say you want Hareidim in the army, but complain that there are too many religious and (soon) Hareidi officers and combat soldiers.

And you can’t say you want all the Hareidim in the army except for “a few hundred geniuses”, when 35% of non-Hareidi Israelis, and a significantly larger percentage, when you only count the Gush Dan region, don’t do any service at all.

Israeli pluralism is a farce. It’s not tolerant and its not open-minded. It’s hypocritical. And it’s definitely anti-Hareidi.

I won’t be surprised if Yair Lapid rewrites his famous “Things We Couldn’t Say During the Disengagement” article a few years from now and writes,

“The Israelis merely felt that the Hareidim should be taught a lesson in humility and perhaps in democracy too. The Hareidim learned that their power is limited…

“It had nothing to do with the army, or work, or the economy, or any other explanation that was given. There was a totally different motivation…”

You only need to read the NIF quote and read about the protests over the past 2 years against Hareidim moving into Harish to understand what that motivation is.

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42 Responses to “Hareidim – N.I.M.B.Y.”

  1. Dan Silagi says:

    I don't want haredim in my backyard. Nor in my front yard. The only yard I want haredim in is a graveyard.

  2. I fervently hope you will die you fecal-antisemite neo-Nazi and soon, to boot!

  3. 2 important points, not, rather 3.

    1. NIF is an avowedly anti-Israel, borderline antisemitic enemy organisation of the Left. A clear and present danger to the wellbeing and health of Israel and Israeli Jews.
    2. Naomi Paiss of NIF is on record (Wikileaks) in her conversation to an American official at the American Embassy that it's "not a tragedy if Israel becoems a majority Arab state in 100 years". This is the quintessential mark of an antisemite, for obvious reasons. The sheer depravity, rottenness and Nazism inside her/them is breathtaking, although knowing them it's not really surprising.
    3. JPost's In Jeruslaem is edited by a vacuous, shallow, hollow American oleh, a leftist hippy-Jew called Melanie Lidman who used vulgar language in her cheap, primitive and trashy articles in the past – connected to her Jerusalem Marathon experience 2 years ago.

  4. Ellen Popper says:

    If you care about Jewish continuity, yet want it to be secular/ traditional, I you had better do something to promote it : Two things, rather : Make Aliyah, and have more children. Otherwise, it is our own graves of extinction we are digging.

  5. Ellen Popper says:

    If you care about Jewish continuity, yet want it to be secular/ traditional, I you had better do something to promote it : Two things, rather : Make Aliyah, and have more children. Otherwise, it is our own graves of extinction we are digging.

  6. Brian Hildebrand says:

    Dan Silagi for some reason thinks he has more right to breath the air of this world than anyone else, particularily the haredim. Why is that Dan, your isolationalism is less stinky then that of the Haredim?

  7. Dan Silagi says:

    You're Exhibit A of why Haredim are poster children for anti-Semitism. BTW, as you've probably guessed, I'm a secular Jew. Of Hungarian extraction. Now stay in Budapest with the real Nazis.

  8. Dan Silagi says:

    It's the Haredim who are isolationist. It is they who throw stones at secular Israelis who DARE to drive on Shabbat, on public streets in Jerusalem. It is they who put up signs in the United States demanding women and men walk on opposite sides of the street. It is they who speak Yiddish even though they were born here (in the USA), so others, notably secular Jews such as I, won't understand them.

    Haredim are poster children for anti-Semitism, and that's why I despise them.

  9. you are not jew, one jew can't wish death to another…
    you, actually, worse the any antisimite

  10. Dan Silagi says:

    I am a secular Jew, Brian. I don't demand that a Jewish woman rabbi worshipping at the Western Wall not wear a tallit (the shawl-like garment observant Jews wear in synagogue) because she's female, and thus apparently violated the fatwa of some rabbi who lived 200 years ago, and was arrested by the Jerusalem police as a result.

    I don't throw stones at secular Jews who, heaven forbid, drive on Shabbat. That's what Haredim do in Jerusalem, on public streets.

    I don't demand that women move to the back of a public bus. That's what Haredim do in Israel.

    This is why I despise Haredim. They are poster children for anti-Semitism and a perversion of a great religion.

  11. Laura Greenberg says:

    Shame on you Dan Silagi. Have we as Jews not suffered enough withought our own people cursing each other. Everyone has a right to their own beliefs whether you like it or not.

  12. Laura Greenberg says:

    Shame on you Dan Silagi. Have we as Jews not suffered enough withought our own people cursing each other. Everyone has a right to their own beliefs whether you like it or not.

  13. Should I say the magnificent Budapest is lightyears ahead of 3rd world shooting-gallery Chicago or even crime-infested NY where I can come home whistling at 3: 30 a.m. wheneevr I want while you **** in yourpant just at the sheer thought, hmmm. What a fine and dandy place your Obamafraud America is…

  14. Roughly 5 % of the ultras do that, but you don't want to face that because you are a moron.

  15. Dan Silagi and who the f*** cares if you are a secular Jew. Is that a merit, is that sg we have to adore? Laughable.

  16. Larisa Zelenko Did you tell that to me? If so, you are on the exact same level as Dan. But you cannot be an intelligent specie Larisa bearing in mind your way of writing…

  17. Should I say the magnificent Budapest is lightyears ahead of 3rd world shooting-gallery Chicago or even crime-infested NY where I can come home whistling at 3: 30 a.m. whenever I feel like it while you **** in your pant just at the sheer thought, hmmm. What a fine and dandy place your Obamafraud America is….

  18. Dan Silagi says:

    Gabor, if you want to call me a Nazi, call me one directly to my face. And it's a lot more than 5%, most of their leaders encourage this kind of behavior.

  19. Dan Silagi says:

    Gabor Fränkl From your posts, I can see that you agree with that 5%.

  20. You are a Nazi. Happy now?

  21. Should I say the magnificent Budapest is lightyears ahead of 3rd world shooting-gallery Chicago or even crime-infested NY where I can come home whistling at 3: 30 a.m. whenever I feel like it while you **** in your pant just at the sheer thought, hmmm? What a fine and dandy place your Obamafraud America is….

  22. Dan Silagi says:

    Any time you wanna dance with me, Gabor. I'm a big guy and a bodybuilder.

  23. Dan Silagi says:

    Gabor Fränkl I wouldn't expect anything else from the readers of a newspaper whose chief editor once was Meir Kahane. BTW, I preferred him to Haredim; at least he wasn't a coward.

  24. Dan Silagi says:

    Gabor Fränkl Yeah, I'm secular — and intermarried. Got a problem with that?

  25. So you first suggested I did't dare calling you the n word, then I did that and I was called then a coward. Tell me, are you always so weak in logic? I have my own conclusions. So you are intermarried. Good luck, at elast your children will never be Jewish. But who cares? I am by the way not halachically Jewish. So what. But I am not a disgusting moron either wishing other Jews in graveyard. Effete pathetic snob.

  26. So you first suggested I did't dare calling you the n word, then I did that and I was called then a coward. Tell me, are you always so weak in logic? I have my own conclusions. So you are intermarried. Good luck, at elast your children will never be Jewish. But who cares? I am by the way not halachically Jewish. So what. But I am not a disgusting moron either wishing other Jews in graveyard. Effete pathetic snob.

  27. And by the way clintonista-idiot – there are tons of Jews who masochictically enjoy spitting in their face only so that they could wipe the spit off their face and say it was raining. nothing special. 77, others say only 69 % of Jews in America have no spine and no shame, either. Probably never had. You are one of them.

  28. Dan Silagi Should I say the magnificent Budapest is lightyears ahead of 3rd world shooting-gallery Chicago or even crime-infested NY where I can come home whistling at 3: 30 a.m. whenever I feel like it while you **** in your pant just at the sheer thought, hmmm? What a fine and dandy place your Obamafraud America is….

  29. Dan Silagi says:

    Let's see how physically strong you are, Gabor, you big-mouthed POS. And yeah, I'm a Clintonista too, and proud of it. You're pretty good at shooting off your schwanzsucking yap from 4,500 miles away. Try it from 1 foot, see what happens.

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