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It’s Official: No Circumcision in Germany – Jewish Hospital Bans the Brit


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The Jewish Hospital in Berlin has suspended all religious circumcisions of children following a ruling delivered by a German court on June 24 banning the practice.

The district court in Cologne ruled that circumcising young boys “is a serious and irreversible interference in the integrity of the human body,” and raised an outcry of protest from Jewish and Muslim groups, both religions performing circumcisions on their children as a symbol of religious faith.

The ruling was made on a case in which a 4 year-old Muslim boy’s circumcision by a doctor led to pervasive bleeding and medical complications.

Gerhard Nerlich, a spokesman for the hospital, announced that “we are suspending circumcisions until the legal situation is clarified”.

The hospital performs approximately 100 religious circumcisions a year.  Two surgeries scheduled to take place were cancelled by the hospital, with calls placed to the families explaining the reason.

In its ruling, the court found that performing the religious circumcisions impinged on a child’s “fundamental right to bodily integrity” and was “against the interests of a child to decide for himself later on to what religion he wishes to belong”.  “Even when done properly by a doctor with the permission of the parents, [circumcision] should be considered as bodily harm if it is carried out on a boy unable to give his own consent”, the court said.  It noted that once a boy reaches the age of consent, he will be permitted to have a religious circumcision performed on himself.

The president of the Central Council of Jews in Germany condemned the ruling as “an unprecedented and dramatic intrusion on the self-determination of religious communities”, calling it “outrageous and insensitive”.

Rabbi Shimshon Nadel of Har Nof, Jerusalem, said the ruling was indicative of Germany’s sentiments toward Jews.  “Throughout Jewish history, there have been many attempts to ban circumcision – this is nothing new, and unfortunately, anti-Semitism is once again rearing its ugly head in Germany,” he said.  “The circumcision procedure is something that is safe when performed by a trained mohel [performer of ritual circumcisions], we’ve been doing it for thousands of years, so it really comes down to the training of the mohel.”

The World Health Organization estimated that approximately 1/3 of men around the world are circumcised.

Germany is home to millions of Muslims and over 100,000 Jews.

Chabad of Berlin could not be reached for comment.

 

Please see the petition on Germany’s ban.

About the Author: Malkah Fleisher is a graduate of Cardozo Law School in New York City. She is an editor/staff writer at JewishPress.com and co-hosts a weekly Israeli FM radio show. Malkah lives with her husband and two children on the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem.


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81 Responses to “It’s Official: No Circumcision in Germany – Jewish Hospital Bans the Brit”

  1. Scott Bear says:

    Last time they did this…

  2. So a godless government feels that it is qualified to interfere in a covenant made between almighty God and His chosen people. Somehow I see this decision coming back to bite the Germans.

  3. Germany is looking to achieve via the Courts what Hitler tried to achieve thru violence – a Judenrein Germany

  4. The Leopard doesn't change its spots.

  5. Sharon Gibson says:

    You would think that Germany would be the last place to make such a ruling. Guess you're right about those spots.

  6. Yehuda Alan says:

    Anti-Semitism and extreme nationalism the dislike of non-aryans is part of the german culture.

  7. Nathan Warszawski says:

    The Jewish Hospital in Berlin is not Jewish al all. Only its name.

  8. This from the country that invented bodily harm without consent.

  9. Hatred (or jealousy of Jews is a historical part of world culture!

  10. Carlos Obers says:

    Jede Religion (wie auch jede andere Gruppierung in Deutschland) hat das Recht respektiert zu werden, verbunden mit der Pflicht, andere zu respektieren.
    Dazu zählt die freie Ausübung von Religion, solange sie sich nicht anmaßt, ihre Glaubenslehren als allgemeinverbindliche Wahrheit gegenüber anderen durchsetzten zu wollen.
    Ebenso muss es selbstverständlich sein, dass jede religiöse Gemeinschaft ihren eigenen Mythos leben, sowie ihren Kult und Ritus uneingeschränkt ausüben darf, solange er die Freiheit anderer nicht einschränkt.
    Man kann die Frage stellen, ob das Bescheiden von Knaben oder aber auch das rituelle Schlachten (Schächten) von Tieren die Grenzen erlaubter Riten überschreitet.
    Das Argument, durch Beschneidung würde muslimischen wie jüdischen Knaben eine Versehrung im Sinne einer Behinderung zugefügt, ist allerdings absurd.
    Rituelle Schlachtungen könnten gesetzeswidrig werden, falls sich Tierquälerei nachweisen ließe. Generell ist die Aufzucht von Tieren zum Zwecke der Schlachtung bereits fragwürdig, wenn man dem Tier ein Recht auf Würde zubilligt. Bislang ist das im deutschen Grundgesetz jedoch nicht verankert.
    Xenophobe Kreise werden sich allerdings beeilen, unter der Maskerade der Menschen- und Tierliebe, wann immer möglich, Rechtsmittel gegen Muslime, Juden, Roma, wie auch gegen asiatische und afrikanische Migranten wirksam zu machen.
    Wir sollten aber darauf vertrauen, dass deutsche Richter nicht durchgehen dämlich sind. Die meisten interpretieren Gesetzestexte im Sinne des Rechts, nur wenige nach den Maximen rechter Ideologie.
    Es freut mich, dass Sie, Nathan Warzawski wie auch Henryk M. Broder Feueralarm geben, sobald Nazis am Rechtsstaat zündeln.

  11. Give your child the roots of faith. Later tradition.

  12. Anonymous says:

    ban on ritual circumcision, slaughter, cloaked in concern for human rights, concern for animal rights – BALONEY – just another way to stick it to the Jews, the Muslims are just collateral damage.

  13. Gerald Fleischmann says:

    Two points:
    1. I have four sons, all circumcised. The first circ was by a doc, and was a bit botched. The rest were by mohels and were just fine. I recommend mohels over doctors for a bris, and hospitals are an unnecessary adjunct.
    2. I don't believe Germany's ruling is anti-Semitic – just the result of an antireligious mentality that is on the rise worldwide. Germany has many laws that are enforced against anti-Semitism; but not against stupidity.

  14. Ruth Hirt says:

    Circumcision is beyond tradition, it was G_d-instituted. Its imposition to the Jews and even non-Jews will incur, as counted for obedience and scientifically-proven health benefits both to the former and the latter. Remember how Abraham experienced attempts on his life (by the L_rd G_d) when he delayed to obey the act? ( And I believe this statement is Biblically correct ).

  15. Margaret Traub says:

    Die Mohel werden weiter beschneiden!Hoffentlich wird es keine "Sittenpolizei " geben, die prüfen wird, ob die Söhne beschnitten sind. ( wie vor 70 Jahren,bei den Nazis)

  16. Stephen Leavitt says:

    Germany isn't some ordinary country when it comes to Jews. They fully understand the implications of what they're saying when they ban brit milah.

  17. Rc Fowler says:

    Its official–the German court is wrong!

  18. Avi Billet says:

    "It noted that once a boy reaches the age of consent, he will be permitted to have a religious circumcision performed on himself." HA! I am reminded of the great line of Rabbi Emanuel Rackman z"l who said, "I must firmly ask [non-Jews] to respect my religious convictions as I see them and not as they see them." I admire (am inspired by) all the Russian Jews who were circumcised when they got out of Russia – I don't know if all Jews will have the fortitude to take care of it if it isn't taken care of for them when they are babies (as many Russian adult men have told me – they "wish" it had been taken care of for them when they were babies).

  19. The Jews have a natural right to their Religious Heritage, since it is not a casual belief, but a social institution, and social institutions of faith are of Natural Law, higher than any "state" The state does not own the flesh of the people, nor does the state own the flesh of married people's children. This law brings us back to the nazi concept of building a master race. Years ago the Catholic Church opposed the circumcision on religious grounds, not on health, and when scientific health benefits were realized , the Catholic Church approved of circumcision as a health choice, seeing that Circumcision is proven to prevent diseases, including AIDS. This entire matter is being caused by the Atheists. The Bible says to circumcise on the eight day, and no one in any state government has a right to deny anyone a Biblically sound precept of religion. The Bible existed before the German State and will exist after it. Enough is enough.

  20. Ruth Hirt says:

    You simply prefer to be hostile and hateful, no, not necessarily about the issue, it is your repugnance against the Jews (G_d the Almighty had prophesied about your stance against HIS people epochs ago) bet you are not circumsized yourself, who is too yellow to bear a pinch of pain.

  21. Jason Birnbaum says:

    Ruth, you don't know Hugh, and nothing he said was hostile or hateful. Circumcision is an act, that when performed in other cultures, is considered inhumane, and is completely unnecessary. If we can replace animal sacrifices with scrolls of paper nailed to our doorways, why can't we replace this barbaric act with a prayer?

  22. Ruth Hirt says:

    Better read the Bible, you will find yourself talking blasphemies, otherwise, repent for the love of your soul.

  23. Ani Stubbs says:

    Hugh Intactive WRONG it is an attack on Jews hiding behind fake concern for Jewish children

  24. Ani Stubbs says:

    Hugh Intactive you can pretend you are not a bigot but we see that you are

  25. Well, they've got a Hitler in the judiciary, so I guess it didnt work out so well.

  26. Hugh Intactive says:

    The case arose from a Muslim boy with serious complications.

  27. Hugh Intactive says:

    You can't have it both ways. If it is brave to undergo circumcision, then it is cowardly to impose it. But why would I ever want to have (the best) part of my genitals cut off?

  28. Hugh Intactive says:

    Nobody owns the flesh of any children, except the children themselves. Their parents only hold them in trust until they are adults and able to decide for themselves whether to have parts cut off. That is what the court has ruled, based on the German Basic Law.

    "Biblically sound"? So some precepts of religion are Biblically unsound? Who decides, and how?

  29. Hugh Intactive says:

    Ruth Hirt You can't have it both ways. If it is brave to undergo circumcision, then it is cowardly to impose it. http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

  30. Jaden Carver says:

    Ani Stubbs – don't be an idiot. Infants do not have religious beliefs, and thus are rightly protected from abuse. I was cut as an infant and dispise my parents for cutting of a very sensitive part of my body that I will never get back. Hating circumcision has nothing to do with hating jews. Stop being an idiot. Seriously.

  31. Jaden Carver says:

    Ruth Hirt – you sound like a lunatic.

  32. Charlie Hall says:

    It is actually more of an attack on Muslims — the case in question involved a Muslim child — but of course we will be the collateral damage to any attacks on Islam.

  33. Sharon Gibson says:

    Age restricted with no regard for the religious mandate that a boy child is circumcised on the 8th day. Furthermore, circumcision is a lot less painful and less debilitating in infancy than at a later age.

  34. Ruth Hirt says:

    You're out of line.

  35. Ani Stubbs says:

    Jason you are as big a bigot as the other scum bag. Go burn your cross somewhere else.

  36. I wonder if the nitwit who wrote the headline bothered to read the article. Whatever you think of the court's ruling, or the hospital's decision, it was ONE hospital in Germany. ONE. FOR THE TIME BEING. The headline shouts that NO circumcisions are allowed ANYWHERE in Germany.

  37. Ruth Hirt says:

    @Jaden Carver Cringe in fear of your profanities, there are G_dly values involved here, affecting your eternal condition, if not your immediate future. @Hugh Intactive If your contention is challenged, examine its verity, obedience in the faith has nothing to do with logic and fact, this is a matter of relating yourself to the mandate-Giver, G_d the Almighty. Even the entire Jewish, non-Jewish practicing world community placed high value on the practice and its supportive factors pointing to the Creator. They know and understand why they have to observe it. When He gave the directive to Abraham, G_d did not explain why. Obedience is not a fad, it is a way of life with the Holy One Who deserves reverence and awe. On issues dealing with -G_d's word, our reasonings "are plain, filthy rags" (sic) @Jaden @Hugh you both lost in these? Read your Bible, pray to the Author if you persist philosophizing.

  38. Ruth Hirt says:

    @Ani Stubbs Thank G_d you are standing on this, may this appeal to the German government be honored.

  39. Jaden Carver says:

    Cringe in fear? Fear of what? Your imaginary friends don't scare me, it's been scientifically proven [referring to biblical god here] that he doesn't exist, also no profanities in any of my posts. But you have confirmed to me that you are a lunatic. I've read the bible. It's not very accurate.

  40. Hugh Intactive says:

    The same verse in Genesis that mandates circumcision (BY the father, nobody else) on the sons, mandates it for your slaves and the stranger within your gate too. Do you still do that? No? Then fear the WRATH of the LORD! (sarcasm)

  41. Hugh Intactive says:

    "circumcision is a lot less painful and less debilitating in infancy than at a later age. " That is a comforting myth. There is no evidence for it whatsoever.

  42. Hugh Intactive says:

    Sharon Gibson "with no regard for the religious mandate that a boy child is circumcised on the 8th day" The court did regard that mandate and ruled (correctly) that the rights of the infant person outweighed the rights of his parents to practise their religion on him, since it would still be impacting on his body when he is adult and formulating his own religious beliefs.

  43. Vogelgesang Sylvie says:

    There is another the one of the heart Deuteronomy 30.
    Messiah has come Daniel 9:24-26.
    for all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of G-D.
    Isaiah 53 psalms 22.
    Who believes our report?

  44. Hugh Intactive says:

    Ani Stubbs It wouldn't make any difference to the truth of what I say if I were. http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

  45. Hugh Intactive says:

    Ruth Hirt The same verse in Genesis that mandates circumcision (BY the father, nobody else) on the sons, mandates it for your slaves and the stranger within your gate too. Do you still do that? No? Then ancient edicts CAN be varied.

  46. Sharon Gibson says:

    You apparently do not know anyone who has been circumcised as an adult. It indeed is painful and debilitating.

  47. Hugh Intactive says:

    It's not an attack on anybody. It's a defence of human rights.

  48. Ruth Hirt says:

    @Hugh don't think, act G_d. Leave alone the faithfuls, despising their obedience you gain for yourself equal recompense. We are non-Jews yet my people practice this Divine directive.

  49. Michael Deonarine says:

    This is outrageous…This new law is antisemitic and an infringment of the basic human rights of Jewish people living in that country..

  50. circumcision is a basic human right?! michael, c'mon…

  51. Michael Deonarine says:

    Well for us it is..I m circumsized like everyone of my brothers and relatives…But it is wrong for a country like Germany(with it s history)to create a anti-jewish law like this…c`mon…You can see that..

  52. Jasmine Ijagha Ochuru says:

    Circumcision is practiced all over the world, many cultures practice circumcision for religious and cultural reasons. This ban does not only affect Jewish people. I think Germany is making a huge mistake by disrespecting the rights of their minority population, who want to uphold this ancient custom.

  53. Jaden Carver says:

    Yes, and damn them for not letting you stone adulterers too!

  54. Jasmine Ijagha Ochuru says:

    We are talking about a cultural practice that is important to many people around the world, a practice that doesn't hurt anyone, but has actually been shown to slow the transmission of several STDs. Do some scholarly research about the benefits of male circumsicion first, and respect other people's rights to freedom of religion, speech and expression.

  55. Jasmine Ijagha Ochuru says:

    I totally agree with you Michael, I think Germany just went too far….again.

  56. Jasmine Ijagha Ochuru says:

    So lets not pierce little girls ears either, since it mutilates their ears. You are entitled to your beliefs and I'm entitled to mine. Its called cultural relativism. Look it up in your dictionary.

  57. Jasmine Ijagha Ochuru says:

    Bryce Hughes, I believe abortion is also legal in Germany. If we are talking about someone consenting to what is about to happen to them, isn't it ironic that abortion is legal but male circumsicion is considered barbaric? If you are so concerned about protecting the wishes of a child, what about late term abortions? Do you think the unborn children would consent to that? You can't have your cake and eat it too.

  58. How about the rights of children who cannot say no?

  59. There is NO medical reason for it!

  60. Paul Besterman says:

    How dare you call this a cosmetic procedure. It is an age old Covenant not only between G-d and Jews but between Father and son. I consider the foreskin a badge of persecution that I have faced in many western countries. This is a fu ndamental part of Judaism and by your tone I fear you have no respect for it's practitioners.

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