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Bibi Capitulates to Muslim Threats, Orders Feiglin Off Temple Mount

The Waqf threatened Netanyahu with "World War Three" should Feiglin go on the Mount on Monday.

MK Moshe Feiglin (3rd from left) visiting Temple Mount in early 2013.

MK Moshe Feiglin (3rd from left) visiting Temple Mount in early 2013.
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For the past ten years, MK Moshe Feiglin (Likud-Beitenu) has been visiting the Temple Mount in Jerusalem on the 19th of the Hebrew month, every month. But on Sunday, April 28, 2013, Feiglin received a phone call from Deputy Commander Moshe Barkat, Chief of the Israeli Police David Precinct, which includes the Old City of Jerusalem.

He informed me that, on direct order from the prime minister, I would not be permitted to enter the Mount tomorrow,” MK Feiglin wrote in his Facebook page.

A source close to Feiglin told The Jewish Press that the deputy commander told the MK that the Waqf, the Jordanian charity organization which runs the Temple Mount, warned the Prime Minister’s office that should Feiglin go up on the Mount on Monday, it would “start World War Three.”

No one wants that. Except that the same Waqf has been cautioning about new world wars frequently, and is often involved in organizing, rather than trying to prevent them.

According to Feiglin, the prime minister has no legal authority to give such an order, because it violates three basic laws:

1. Basic Law: Human Dignity and Liberty, which gives each person freedom of movement, and requires the state to protect this right.

2. Basic Law: The Knesset, which grants every MK complete immunity in carrying out his duties.

3. Basic Law: Jerusalem, which says: “The sacred sites shall be protected from desecration and any other violation and from anything likely to violate the freedom of access of the religionists to the sites they hold sacred, or their feelings concerning those sites.”

Also: “Any and all authority applying to the area of Jerusalem that is granted by law to the State of Israel or the Jerusalem Municipality, shall not be transferred to a foreign entity, political or governmental, whether permanently or temporarily.”

“The only legal way to prevent me from going up to the Temple Mount tomorrow (without changing existing law),” says MK Feiglin, “is if, in the opinion of the officer in charge of the place there exists an immediate, clear and present danger.”

But, having given him the warning a full day in advance, Feiglin argues, security forces should have ample time—had the prime minister only told them so—to organize and prevent dangerous gathering and violence.

According to MK Feiglin, the Prime Minister’s decision “confirms what I was told by the police command when I asked to tour the Dome of the Rock, that the Temple Mount is under Muslim sovereignty.”

This unfortunate decision, writes Feiglin, can be added to reports this week about transferring broad supervisory authority to UNESCO in Jerusalem, as well as the reality of a de facto construction freeze in Jerusalem, as Housing Minister Uri Ariel warned last week.

The source close to Feiglin says the MK will obey Netanyahu’s directive, but that as of tomorrow Feiglin would no longer be voting the Likud-Beitenu party line.

“When, just before Jerusalem Liberation Day, the Prime Minister orders an Israeli Knesset member that—contrary to Israeli law— he not to go up to the Temple Mount, it means that the Prime Minister has officially and openly revoked Israeli sovereignty on the Mount and given it to the Muslim Waqf,” MK Feiglin wrote.

“This is an entirely new situation, more severe than before, and I must consider now how to force the Prime Minister to respect the sovereignty of the State of Israel in its capital Jerusalem,” he concluded.

About the Author: Yori Yanover has been a working journalist since age 17, before he enlisted and worked for Ba'Machane Nachal. Since then he has worked for Israel Shelanu, the US supplement of Yedioth, JCN18.com, USAJewish.com, Lubavitch News Service, Arutz 7 (as DJ on the high seas), and the Grand Street News. He has published Dancing and Crying, a colorful and intimate portrait of the last two years in the life of the late Lubavitch Rebbe, (in Hebrew), and two fun books in English: The Cabalist's Daughter: A Novel of Practical Messianic Redemption, and How Would God REALLY Vote.


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81 Responses to “Bibi Capitulates to Muslim Threats, Orders Feiglin Off Temple Mount”

  1. Wise move by Netanyahu. The al-aqsa belongs to the muslims, and this will always be the case. Israel must first show that you are willing to share the land with the Palestinians. Show that you have the capability to tolerate other people, before you try to force your way into a muslim holy site.

  2. Yori Yanover says:

    We already shared — the Arabs received 2/3 of the Jewish Homeland promised us by the Allies in 1920. It's called Jordan. How much more do you want to share? We have a spare room in my house, you want that, too?

  3. Its the Palestinians that need to demonstrate that they are willing to share the land. Under Abbas, they still teach in their schools that Jews are descendants of Apes and pigs, that the Holocaust was conflated just so that the Jews could have Israel and it's the Palestinians who keep rejecting offers by Israel for peace. The PA still teaches that the Jews have no right to the land.

  4. Its the Palestinians that need to demonstrate that they are willing to share the land. Under Abbas, they still teach in their schools that Jews are descendants of Apes and pigs, that the Holocaust was conflated just so that the Jews could have Israel and it's the Palestinians who keep rejecting offers by Israel for peace. The PA still teaches that the Jews have no right to the land.

  5. What? Feiglin will agree not to go up. Let him go. He has immunity. Feiglin should not cave in.

  6. Anonymous says:

    Muslims tolerate no one but they demand civilized peoples tolerate them. Muslims think they are not just mad dogs howling at the moon god, Allah.

  7. Philip Moran says:

    Has Bibi no shame? This is red line that cannot be crossed. A Jewish spring must happen now!

  8. Dan Steeves says:

    Jerusalem and its sacred sites stopped being sacred when the roman legions under Titus burned the city and the temple in 70 C.E. in fulfillment of Christ's prophecies in Mathew 24:1,2 and Luke 19:43,44.

  9. Grace Acosta says:

    Every time I hear of the madness in this world, I pray even harder for MOSHIACH NOW!

  10. Gil Gilman says:

    Your self-praise is noticed, but your reasoning is oblique at best, Mustafa. There is no way you can guarantee al-aqsa will always belong to the muslims…supposing a bomb landed on it, during the threatened WWWIII, totally obliterating it.

  11. Gil Gilman says:

    The threat is plain silly. The waqf can blather any ridiculous thing they care, but starting WWWIII is not within their purview. The response shows some other politics at work here. Maybe Likud does not want Moshe's support.

  12. And Bibi is going to stop Iran from going nuclear? He is a disaster to Israel.

  13. Dan Steeves says:

    Jerusalem and its sacred sites stopped being sacred when the roman legions under general Titus burned the city and the temple in the year 70 in fulfilment of Jesus prophecy in Matthew 24:1,2 and Luke 19:42-44. All the genealogical records were destroyed during this destruction so how can any modern day jew prove he really is a jew?

  14. Has Anyone Read the EAST GATE Prophecy?> if NOT YOU SHOULD! Jesus Bless Israel is Gods Time Line.

  15. They will not start World war3. Just stupid Muslim threats. Savage Muslims. Feiglin should go. Bibi just caved in. Muslims love that. I am disappointed with Bibi.An in response to Mustafa the site belonged to the Jews first This is where the second temple was built and then destroyed by the Romans. Muslims should learn to share.All they can do is bark.

  16. Both Muslims and Christians claim that Jerusalem and the Temple were destroyed and the Jewish people were scattered, exiled, persecuted and killed, because they rejected Jesus as the Messiah, as he claims: "because you did not know the time of your visitation" (Luke 19:41-44, 21:20,24, Matthew 24:1-3,34, Mark 13:2).

    THE SECOND DOOM: Quran, Al-Isra; Surah 17:103-104 "So he (Pharaoh) resolved to remove them (Moses and his people) from the face of the earth: but We did drown him and all who were with him. And We said thereafter to the Children of Israel, "Dwell securely in the land (of promise)": but when the second of the warnings came to pass, We gathered you together in a mingled crowd. (YUSUFALI).

    Qur'an, Al-Isra; Surah 17:7 "If ye did well, ye did well for yourselves; if ye did evil, (ye did it) against yourselves. So when the second of the warnings came to pass, (We permitted your enemies, Titus and his army) to disfigure your faces, and to enter your Temple as they (Nebuchadnezzar) had entered it before, and to visit with destruction all that fell into their power. (YUSUFALI). Muslims say that the second doom was due to the rejection of the Message of Jesus. Titus the Romans destroyed the city of Jerusalem and the Temple in A.D. 70.

    The truth is however, what the Torah and the true prophets of Israel say, that Jerusalem and the Temple were destroyed and the Jewish people were scattered, exiled, persecuted and killed, because they rejected the Torah. Deuteronomy 28:49-52 foreshadows the destruction of Israel by Rome, which would "come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all His commandments and His statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee…" (v 15).

    WHAT DOES THE TORAH AND THE PROPHETS SAY? Leviticus 26:14-16,31 " But if ye will not hearken unto Me, and will not do all these commandments; and if ye shall reject My statutes, and if your soul abhor Mine ordinances, so that ye will not do all My commandments, but break My covenant; I also will do this unto you: I will appoint terror over you,.. And I will make your cities a waste, and will bring your sanctuaries unto desolation, and I will not smell the savour of your sweet odours."

    1 Kings 9:6-9 " But if you and your children turn away from following Me, and you will not adhere to My commandments and My statutes, which I have placed before you, but go and worship other gods and bow before them. Then I will cut Israel off, from the land which I have given to them, and this house which I have made sacrosanct for My Name will I dismiss from My presence, and Israel shall be for a proverb and a byword among all nations.

    And this Temple [which] is exalted, [shall become forlorn] and every passerby shall be astounded and will hiss, and they will say: "Why has the Lord done this to this country and to this Temple?" They will be told, "Because they abandoned the Lord, their God, Who delivered their forefathers out of the Land of Egypt; and took hold of other gods and bowed to them and served them. Therefore, has the Lord brought all this retribution upon them."

    See also Deut. 29:23-28, II Chr. 7:19-22, Jer. 22:1-9, Ch. 44, Hosea 4:6, 6:6, Amos 2:4-5.

    THE DESTRUCTION OF THE FIRST TEMPLE: II Kings Ch. 25 "Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon came, he and all his army, against Jerusalem…" II Chr. 36:19-20 " And they burned the House of God, and they demolished the wall of Jerusalem, and all its palaces they burned with fire, and destroyed all its precious vessels. And he exiled the survivors from the sword to Babylon, and they became vassals to him and to his sons until the reign of the kingdom of Persia." See also Lamentations 2:1-10.

    In Daniel Ch. 9, Daniel begins his prayer with the confession of sin expressing our deep shame and contrition over the misdemeanors that have led to our national exile. Daniel's prayer is designed to guide us to internalize the bitter lesson and moral of the destruction of the Temple and the exile, which came about exactly as the Torah had warned. See also Nehemiah Ch. 9.

    In the prophetic writings, Israel's possession of the Land of Israel is conditional on their observance of the commandments of God's Torah, and it was their sins – in particular their lapse into idolatry – that caused their exile from the Land. It was not that they did not believe in HaShem. Their flaw was to serve intermediaries (II Kings 17).

  17. Dvorah Bee says:

    Bibi should not give in, call these cowards bluff!

  18. Dvorah Bee says:

    no it is ours and we are going to reclaim it

  19. What is really wrong with the Israeli People? Has the Prime Minister really gone mad? The Temple Mount is the holiest site for all the Jewish People, not the Muslims or anyone else. Just kick the Waqf off of the Mount and declare the land to be forever in Israel, and stop being Pussies.

  20. Dvorah Bee says:

    I cant believe this, they are challenging and provoking us, trying to start someting

  21. Moishe Sachs says:

    The destruction of the Temple & our exile doesn't mean that Israel is no longer sacred; that's a lie.
    You left out Mark 13:2. All 3 of these are clearly an example of a false prophecy of your false Jesus (the actual person was a Jewish hero willing to die fighting the Roman savages to re-establish the Jewish commonwealth, not the Jew-hating false messiah god he was turned into by some — see Kosher Jesus) making a false prophecy. He supposedly stated that not one stone would be left on another in Jerusalem (buildings, plural, not just the temple, which has the Western wall of the Temple still today with 12 stories of stones on top of each other (counting from the bottom stone some 9 stories down).

  22. Moishe Sachs says:

    We're talking about a prime minister, who like his predecessors, chose the murder, dismemberment, & loss of precious properties of his own compatriots rather than exercise Israel's legal right to repatriate the genocidal Arab Muslims illegally occupying land west of the Jordan in contradiction to the Balfour Declaration, San Remo Conference, 1922 proclamations, Israel's 1948 civil war victory, & the 1967 redemption of their land.

  23. Moishe Sachs says:

    Netanyahu, you continue your misguided capitulation to your existential enemies at the cost of your nation. You are, of course, a traitor & gravely endanger Israel. You know very well that these genocidal Arab Muslims will never stop their lies, murder, & savagery to accomplish their highest aspiration, Israel's destruction. You'll get nothing of actual substance from this suicidal move. You'll get increased disdain from Muslims who see this, as you well know, as weakness, foolishness, & their devil god Allah's victory. You're evil, not just for this move, but for allowing the death, dismemberment, & loss of precious properties of tens of thousands of innocent people west of the Jordan River instead of exercising Israel's legal right to repatriate the genocidal Arab Muslims back to Jordan & Egypt. They were allowed to remain on Israel's side of the border following the Six-day War, which allowed them to murder & dismember & pillage the neighborhoods of tens of thousands of innocent people. Now, they're far more of an existential threat than 45 years ago; and YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE. You're reprehensible and do not represent the abiding beliefs of the majority of good Israelis, who, because of your horrific political system that elects suicidal cowards like you, have never had their will done. http://www.palwatch.org

  24. The genealogies of the twelve tribes of Israel were not stored in the Temple and they were never destroyed.

    Moreover, the majority of the Jewish people did not live in Israel during the first century and their genealogical records would have been unaffected by the destruction of Jerusalem and its Temple in 70 C.E.

    JEWISH GENEALOGY:

    http://www.outreachjudaism.org/articles/genealogy.html

  25. According to the prophet Zechariah v. 14:21; the Temple Mount which embodies the struggle between Isaac and Ishmael, indicates that the Temple Mount in the immediate future will no longer be in the hands of aliens.

    We may presume that the Temple Mount soon no longer will be insulted by being called merely the "third holiest place" of a tradition that does not recognize the name of HaShem or Moses his prophet. Rather, the Temple Mount will be the central focus of the entire world, from which the Torah – the word of HaShem – will go forth to all parts of the globe (Michah Ch. 4, Isaiah 2:2-4).

    The nations of the world will stream to seek out God and His Torah in the Temple in Jerusalem (Zechariah 8:20-23). "For My house shall be called the House of Prayer for all the nations (Isaiah 56:7).

    "A multitude of camels shall cover you, the young camels of Midian and Ephah, all of them shall come from Sheba; gold and frankincense they shall carry, and the praises of the Lord they shall report. All the sheep of Kedar shall be gathered to you, the rams of Nebaioth shall serve you; they shall be offered up with acceptance upon My altar, and I will glorify My glorious house” (Isaiah 60:6-7).

    We will welcome Hagar/Keturah's descendants; Midian and Ephah (Genesis 25:1-4), and Ishmael's sons, Nebayoth, the firstborn, and Kedar, the second son (25:13), mentioned together here.

    We eagerly await the day when all the flocks of sheep of Kedar (ARABIA) will be gathered to be offered as sacrifices on God's Altar in "the House of My glory" (Isaiah 60:7) – i.e. the coming Holy Temple! Aimen! May it come speedily in our days :)

  26. Jeff Hunton says:

    Time to get rid of that dome

  27. Cathy Sherman says:

    Dvorah Bee

  28. I love the Anointed Leader of Israel~ and whatever the Prime Minister does I believe that He has searched with His Heart as well as with the Laws of the Torah in doing what He deems is best for Israel~.

  29. Arabs have over 38 Countries, and Israel has shared too much land, so much that even Jewish families have been moved from their homes for Arabs. But Arab maps do not show Israel and they want all of it. Sorry but YHUH made it for the Jews first. And it goes against Torah to give it away when it has been given unto the Children of Israel. So be glad that modern Israel is not Torah obedient that you should take what is not rightfully yours to begin with!

  30. Arabs have over 38 Countries, and Israel has shared too much land, so much that even Jewish families have been moved from their homes for Arabs. But Arab maps do not show Israel and they want all of it. Sorry but YHUH made it for the Jews first. And it goes against Torah to give it away when it has been given unto the Children of Israel. So be glad that modern Israel is not Torah obedient that you should take what is not rightfully yours to begin with!

  31. No one should be banned from anyplace if that person respects GOD and is there to pray. No matter how many quotes from whatever number of holy books are posted; the main theme is this, no matter what or which direction you face when you call upon GOD you must carry out his first law… That is to love one another and sing praises when calling upon him and no person has the right or authority to deny anyone else from praying to GOD. Maybe if the powers that be in the "HOLY" land would pray next to each other and find a common bond to the Father, PEACE MIGHT BREAK OUT, it's worth a try!

  32. Michael K-n says:

    Congrats on preventing WW II!

    If this order is a gesture of Israel's good will, neighbors would hardly assume it as it.

    M. Kerjman

  33. Ron Kall says:

    Mustafa just landed from Mars, since there are no more intolerant people in the history of the planet earth than the muslims and a muslim thinks he can lecture Israel. Let him lecture his muslim brothers who destroy every religious site they can as long as it is non muslim. Really, share the land like the muslim world did to it's indigenous Jewish populations and is still doing to it's Christian populations. The epitome of chutzpa!!

  34. Ron Kall says:

    It's a Jewish sickness that they would in any way acquiesce to any demands from the worst enemy the Jewish people have ever faced, muslims! Even worse than hitler!

  35. Ron Kall says:

    I wanted to put that in my posts, but I thought the moderator would be afraid to post it, so now that you said it, I say level the Dome and let the muslim world ignite and make sure that all muslims leave Israel, including Judea and Samaria, like could have been done after the Six Day War!

  36. Ron Kall says:

    You mean like when Begin gave up the Sinai for nothing in return or Golda Meir didn't pre-empt when she new the arabs were going to attack on Yom Kippur!?

  37. Ron Kall says:

    Dennis, the Jews have been trying your idea for a hundred years and the result is more dead Jews. Like interfaith marches and prayer meetings in America, especially right after some muslim kills some of us! The muslims get to walk around hand in hand with us and show the world that they are really pulling one over on us. When G-d eradicates islm, peace will break out!!

  38. Ron Kall says:

    This would be gesture of good will # 987,356.22 and all with the same result from the muslims . More killings and more demands!

  39. Eliezer Dvir says:

    I was used as a "surgical experiment" without my foreknowledge or permission, less than two weeks prior to Pesach, 1985. The 'doctor' destroyed my spine irreparably and also gave me infected blood, and I only discovered (almost dying one day post-Pesach) less than a year ago that the 'doctor' gave me Hepatitis "C", and my wife abandoned me to die in 1986, forbidding me to see my children since 1989 (6 children). Because I am a victim of admitted malpractice, I have NO medical care and am suffering constant agony. I desperately need to come back to Israel somehow (the only one of my children that wants to associate with me lives there, 15,000Km from Vancouver, B.C., Canada), but NO organization will assist me, and the 'doctor' is impossible to locate. The hospital destroyed my files shortly after the 'surgery', and I do not know what tot do. My email is eliezerdviralephbet316@gmail.com. The Israel embassy in Canada refuses to aid me, and o "religious' groups will even speak to me. Is there any way that you can offer me advice as to how to proceed? Mr. Eliezer Dhaim Dvir.

  40. Dvorah Bee says:

    Bibi seems to have given up! To cower to the waft after cowering to erdogan, he is looking like a dhimmi. this is not how a leader of Israel behaves- we do not bow to Islam.

  41. Jason Lipstein says:

    You Arab drecks

  42. Jason Lipstein says:

    It's only a matter of time before the Jewish people will also be able to once again use G-d as a weapon against His enemies……

  43. The question is simple, how would have King David or his Son Solomon responded to this Muslim threat. The Gentiles have trampled the court yard of the Sacred Temple long enough. The time has come to demolish the Dome and re-build the Temple at the original threshing floor site where the holy of holies was located and that site is exactly in line with the original east gate under the dome of the tabernacles. The time has come for the prophesy to be fulfilled as written. So it was written by HA-SHEM so let it be done.

  44. 2 chronicles 6:6 "But I have chosen Jerusalem, that my Name might be there."

  45. something is very wrong in this country! when muslims threaten to use violence instead of protecting the Jewish People they are attacked for causing the violence!

  46. Zecharia 12 verses 9 and it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all nations that come against Jerusalem, and I will pour upon the House of David, and the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and supplication,and they shall look upon Him, whom they have pierced and they shall mourn for Him, as on mourneth for his only son. and shall be in bitterness for Him, as one that is in bitterness of his firstborn." the coming of Christ, to gather His elect from the four corners of the earth. shalom.

  47. We have to continue our fight for the Temple Mount! Until all these "bibis" will capitulate to us and to our pressure.

  48. Moishe Sachs. I know there is a theology out that goes around saying that Israel is not important anymore, but that is not true, as Christ has put a love for Israel into our hearts, and Paul mentions that "When the fullness of the gentiles has come in, the Lord will once again return to the people of Israel, as the prophesy that gentiles would be included by Isaiah has come to pass.

  49. Robbie Goldstein says:

    Dan, that is nothing more than revisionist nonsense.
    Here are some verse which show that the covenant between G-d and the Jews will NEVER end:

    (Ecc 13:14)"Whatever G-d decrees shall be forever; nothing shall be added to it nothing shall be taken away."
    (Is 40:18)" The word of the L-rd shall stand firm forever"
    (Num 19:21)"and it shall be law for all time"
    (Num 15:14)". . .There shall be one law for you and for the Ger(Convert), it shall be a law for all time throughout the ages."
    (Num 15:21)"You shall make a gift to the L-rd from the first yield of your baking, throughout the ages"
    (Ex 31:16)"The Israelites people shall keep the Shabbat, observing the Shabbat throughout the ages as a covenant fro all time."
    (Dt 4:2) "Every word which the I command you. You shall observe and do Thou shalt not add unto it nor diminish it"
    (Ps 119)
    (Dt 4:40) "Observe His laws and commandments, which I enjoin upon you this day, that it may go well with you and your children after you and you may live in the land that the L-rd your G-d is assigning to you for all time."
    (Num 15:23) "All that the L-rd commanded you by the hand of Moses from the day that the L-rd gave commandments and onward throughout your generations."
    (Ex 12:17) "And you shall observe the (commandment of) Unleavened bread . . .you shall observe this day throughout your generations as an ordinance forever."
    (Is 49:14) " But Zion says, The L-rd has forsaken me, and my L-rd has forgotten me. Can a woman forget her sucking child, that she should not have compassion on the son of her womb? Yes, even they may forget, but I will not forget you"

    Maybe your pagan idol changes his mind and breaks his word-after stating that HE does not, but the L-rd G-D of Israel, HaShem, does not.

  50. Chaiya Eitan says:

    It is not YOUR land to decide to 'share.' You are occupying the holiest place on earth to the Jews – the Temple Mount! Get your mosque off of there!

  51. Chaiya Eitan says:

    Ya know what….let them start the 'third intifada.' We'll destroy them. They'll beg for mercy.

  52. Yori Yanover says:

    First we need to reclaim it from Bibi, I'm afraid.

  53. Yori Yanover says:

    If only you spoke Hebrew, you'd have understood that what you've concluded here is hogwash. Ignorance equals bliss.

  54. Yori Yanover says:

    Cathy Sherman · Maybe it's like the filibusterer–we should demand that they actually start something, not merely threaten.

  55. Zahava Miryam Ben Yishai says:

    not with what we have leading this country. only if we had a serious right-wing gov't could, and would, we destroy our enemies. the next intifada will probably be worse than the last one. more dead jews. more jewish blood on the gov't's hands. we are our own worst enemy and we're destroying ourselves from the inside. israelis are idiots. they're still in the mindset of "protekzia" – u do for me, and i'll vote for u. it's really pathetic.

  56. Yori Yanover says:

    Georg von Starkermann · Bibi is simply not a religious person. As long as his father, Prof. Netanyahu, was alive, he paid lip service to the Jewish faith. Now his last restraint is gone. A vote for Bibi was a vote for the secular Left in Israel.

  57. Yori Yanover says:

    Georg von Starkermann · Bibi is simply not a religious person. As long as his father, Prof. Netanyahu, was alive, he paid lip service to the Jewish faith. Now his last restraint is gone. A vote for Bibi was a vote for the secular Left in Israel.

  58. Yori Yanover says:

    Ron Kall – I'm the moderator, and I agree with you wholeheartedly. If we're talking war, let there be a reason for it.

  59. Be careful what you ask for Chaiya Eitan

  60. Robbie Goldstein says:

    Dan, that is nothing more than revisionist nonsense.
    Here are some verse which show that the covenant between G-d and the Jews will NEVER end:

    (Ecc 13:14)"Whatever G-d decrees shall be forever; nothing shall be added to it nothing shall be taken away."
    (Is 40:18)" The word of the L-rd shall stand firm forever"
    (Num 19:21)"and it shall be law for all time"
    (Num 15:14)". . .There shall be one law for you and for the Ger(Convert), it shall be a law for all time throughout the ages."
    (Num 15:21)"You shall make a gift to the L-rd from the first yield of your baking, throughout the ages"
    (Ex 31:16)"The Israelites people shall keep the Shabbat, observing the Shabbat throughout the ages as a covenant fro all time."
    (Dt 4:2) "Every word which the I command you. You shall observe and do Thou shalt not add unto it nor diminish it"
    (Ps 119)
    (Dt 4:40) "Observe His laws and commandments, which I enjoin upon you this day, that it may go well with you and your children after you and you may live in the land that the L-rd your G-d is assigning to you for all time."
    (Num 15:23) "All that the L-rd commanded you by the hand of Moses from the day that the L-rd gave commandments and onward throughout your generations."
    (Ex 12:17) "And you shall observe the (commandment of) Unleavened bread . . .you shall observe this day throughout your generations as an ordinance forever."
    (Is 49:14) " But Zion says, The L-rd has forsaken me, and my L-rd has forgotten me. Can a woman forget her sucking child, that she should not have compassion on the son of her womb? Yes, even they may forget, but I will not forget you"

    Maybe your pagan idol changes his mind and breaks his word-after stating that HE does not, but the L-rd G-D of Israel, HaShem, does not.

  61. Robbie Goldstein says:

    Sientje Seinen … That is NOT the correct translation of the Original Hebrew and it has NOTHING to do with Jesus what so ever.

    You cannot cherry pick our scripture, mistranslate it, and contort to meet your agenda.

    The chapter refers to HaShem destroying the enemies of Israel for what they have done to the Jewish people- as a whole, including their lust of Jerusalem. Here is the correct translation:

    Zechariah Chapter 12

    1 The burden of the word of the LORD concerning Israel. The saying of the LORD, who stretched forth the heavens, and laid the foundation of the earth, and formed the spirit of man within him:

    2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of staggering unto all the peoples round about, and upon Judah also shall it fall to be in the siege against Jerusalem.

    3 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will make Jerusalem a stone of burden for all the peoples; all that burden themselves with it shall be sore wounded; and all the nations of the earth shall be gathered together against it.

    4 In that day, saith the LORD, I will smite every horse with bewilderment, and his rider with madness; and I will open Mine eyes upon the house of Judah, and will smite every horse of the peoples with blindness.

    5 And the chiefs of Judah shall say in their heart: 'The inhabitants of Jerusalem are my strength through the LORD of hosts their God.'

    6 In that day will I make the chiefs of Judah like a pan of fire among the wood, and like a torch of fire among sheaves; and they shall devour all the peoples round about, on the right hand and on the left; and Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place, even in Jerusalem.

    7 The LORD also shall save the tents of Judah first, that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem be not magnified above Judah.

    8 In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that stumbleth among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as a godlike being, as the angel of the LORD before them.

    9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

    10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplication; and they shall look unto Me because they have thrust him through; and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his first-born.

    11 In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.

    12 And the land shall mourn, every family apart: the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart;

    13 The family of the house of Levi apart, and their wives apart; the family of the Shimeites apart, and their wives apart;
    14 All the families that remain, every family apart, and their wives apart.

  62. Grace Acosta says:

    The only wisdom I have is from Torah. THAT is what needs to be spread around.

  63. Dan Silagi says:

    The Arabs should share the al-Aqsa Mosque with all who wish to worship or respectfully visit there. But first, every square inch of the Western Wall needs to be open to all who wish to pray there, without restriction of any kind.

  64. My Torah teaches "never to give up on GOD"! Peace will never be won with bombs and bullets. If peace could be forced upon us then why were we freed from Egypt?

  65. I also wanted to visit the Temple Mount but our Rabbi told us Jews weren't allowed. I was shocked and pissed because we're taught to bring people to prayer not turn them away. MAN is the reason for hate and killing; not GOD!!

  66. Jerry Waxman says:

    I went to miluim 3 times in 7 months for the first Intifada. Chaiya Eitan you have no idea what you are saying, and you definitely do not represent a Jewish viewpoint. Besides that you are wrong, they will never beg for mercy. They will only celebrate their "martyrs" and take advantage of any opportunity to show that Israel has killed children, even if it isn't true. The Jewish Press is wrong, too. Netanyahu, as PM, has a responsibility to protect the lives of everyone in Israel. If violence can be avoided by removing a MK from the Temple Mount, it is a small price worth paying.

  67. Here are three quotes that embody what is going on in Israel:

    He who is merciful with the cruel, will end-up being cruel to the merciful – Kohelet Rabba 7:16

    Woe unto them that call evil good and good evil. – (Isaiah 5,20)

    “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”
    — Benjamin Franklin

    Bibi and his followers are fulfilling these quotes with gusto.

    To Jerry Waxman who said
    “Netanyahu, as PM, has a responsibility to protect the lives of everyone in Israel. If violence can be avoided by removing a MK from the Temple Mount, it is a small price worth paying.”
    Jerry, I don’t care how many times you served miluim, the moment you give up sovereignty over part of your country because of the threat of violence, you have lost the whole country. See Benjamin Franklin’s quote above. Bibi does have a responsibility to protect the lives of everyone in Israel, but to protect those who threaten violence and death (disobey the law) over those who wish free access to the holiest place in the world (obey the law) is wrong on so many levels.

    Bibi is putting the final straws of his political career on the camel’s back. Moshe Feiglin will be the next prime minister of Israel.

  68. Dvorah Bee says:

    we dont have to demand Yori it is our land, our state- have you forgotten that.

  69. Arabs may have many countries. The Muslims have many more. But remember. There is only one Palestine. And only ONE al-Aqsa. Looking forward to meet Muslims from all over the world in al-Aqsa one day…where we all will worship the one Almighty under Islamic Soveregnity. Soon. InshaAllah.

  70. Michael K-n says:

    If "from the muslims" only…

  71. Glenn S Todd says:

    It is getting to a point where I am startin not to believe in Netanyahu. How much more is he going to give in to everyone who is agains the Jewish people and the State of Israel.

  72. Donna Silver says:

    The Temple Mount is located in Jerusalem, the Capital of Israel… so… the 'guardian' is ISRAEL…

  73. Donna Silver says:

    Bibi is the politician … the ones who will stop Iran, whether it goes nuclear or not, are the Israel Defense Forces … when they have to …

  74. Donna Silver says:

    Christ was not Irish … he was Jewish … Christ tried to spread Judaism amongst the non-believers of the day … however even then Christ the Jew paid a heavy price for trying to spread the principles of the TORAH: "One universal God for all humanity … no matter His name … and Freedom from Slavery for all" … for this, Christ was placed on a cross by the mighty Romans who long since have been buried in history … then the non-believers increasingly became Christians and some later on Catholics and the Catholic Church, not wanting to give credit to the Jews for the Principles of Christ, killed thousands of Jews throughout history because the Jews, in fact, knew that JESUS was a Jew and that Christ's principles are Jewish principles that allow people to be Free … so to those who believe in Jesus so much … then why do you not just convert to Judaism as Jesus preached … i am not trying to convert you … i am just trying to understand your great love for JESUS …the Jew …

  75. Donna Silver says:

    i fully agree with Dvorah Bee … call these cowards' bluff! … exactly … the Temple Mount is located in Jerusalem which is the Capital of Israel therefore under the control of Israel, in other words, in plain English … ISRAEL IS THE MANAGER … and none other …
    Bibi keeps saying "we will not be fooled again" … Yo Bibi … wassup we dat?

  76. Donna Silver says:

    the Intifada has never stopped anyway … what the hell is the difference … again, given that the Temple Mount is located in Jerusalem, the Capital of Israel, therefore, the logical conclusion is that the Temple Mount is under the control of Israel … and none other … come in peace … no problem …

  77. Donna Silver says:

    Ya Mustafa … Ya Mustafa … Yanabahibek … Ya Mustafa … how much nerve you have … Mustafa … so much nerve you are no fool … but neither am I and neither are many, many Israelis … come in Peace to the Capital of Israel, Jerusalem, and there is no problem for anyone who comes in Peace … teach the Hamas and the Hezbollah and the Fanatical Palestinians about tolerance … especially tolerance of Jews and Israelis … and tell me how well you succeed … and you know this … even better than I do … come on now Mustafa … dare to tell the truth … tell us who really is an intolerant people … Ya Mustafa … Ya Mustafa … Yanabahibek … Ya Mustafa … Peace Brother …

  78. Justhe Facts says:

    I agree. The best way for Feiglin to accomplish his stated goal to " force the Prime Minister to respect the sovereignty of the State of Israel in its capital Jerusalem" would have been to bring the issue to a head by exercising his legal rights.

    If the stated reasons ( security) were correct, he could go next week, or the week after or the week after and call the bluff.

  79. Justhe Facts says:

    All true, but why does he repeatedly do things like this. Does he simply lack courage? or is there something else going on here?

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