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CAIR-NY at Muslim Day in Albany where they lobbied for a bill requiring large city school districts to provide halal food.

Proposed legislation was introduced into New York City Council to require that the city’s public schools provide Islamic-compliant food – halal – as an option in the cafeterias. The New York chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) joined forces with council member Rafael L. Espinal, Jr. (Brooklyn) to support Resolution 54 at a press conference on the steps of New York City Hall on Wednesday, March 26.

Fourteen other city councilmembers co-sponsored Espinal’s Resolution.

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The Resolution goes into explicit detail about what Islamic-observant students are permitted to eat and what they must avoid eating, as well as stating who made those determinations. To wit:

Whereas, The practice of Islam is determined by the Islamic teachings as guided by the holy book Quran and the Hadith, and sayings of the Prophet Mohammad, which includes observing dietary laws; and Whereas, Islamic dietary laws delineate foods that are halal, meaning lawful or permitted, and those that are haram, meaning not permitted; and Whereas, Haram foods include pork and its by-products, meat and poultry not slaughtered according to the Islamic dietary law, alcohol and foods prepared with and containing alcohol, foods containing blood and blood by-products, and foods containing whey prepared with non-microbial enzyme, rennet, animal shortening, monoglycerides and diglycerides from an animal source, sodium stearoyl lactylate, and L-cysteine.

The proposed Resolution concedes that there is no accurate way to determine how many New York City schoolchildren are Muslim, and of those who are Muslim, how many observe strict halal guidelines. The best estimate they have is that approximately 12 percent of the school system’s children are Muslim.

Undeterred by the lack of hard information, the legislators pointed to the Detroit public school system where 35 percent of the students are estimated to be Muslim. In Detroit, the school district began a halal pilot program in 2001 which has expanded to 35 schools in the district.

In addition to pointing to Detroit as a school district where such a program was implemented, the legislators turned to another argument to bolster their demands.

This angle is the one best characterized as “you don’t want school kids going hungry do you?” You see, unless a halal option is offered, the unknown number of New York City’s schoolchildren who can only eat halal food will suffer eating either the vegetarian option that is already offered in the school system, or they will have to bring their own food from home. If the food is brought from home, it probably won’t still be hot by lunch time.

To shore up this argument, the director of operations for CAIR’s New York district, Sadyia Khalique, spoke at Wednesday’s press conference about the hardship she suffered growing up in the New York City school system without a halal food option.

“Growing up in New York City, I, along with many Muslim students, had to struggle during lunch with not having a proper halal meal for the day. The percentage of Muslim children in public schools is growing, and too many children are denied the nutritional benefits lunch would provide because of religious dietary restrictions. As a community, we have to make sure our children receive the best education in environments in which their religious beliefs and practices are respected. No child should leave a lunchroom or enter a classroom hungry.”

Of course, there are other students in the New York City public schools who have religious dietary requirements. That would be Jewish observant children. The New York City public schools don’t offer kosher lunches and to date, no Jewish groups have marched themselves into the New York City council chambers demanding that there be a kosher food option.

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462 COMMENTS

  1. Lani Lowell Separation of church and state. if it passes there will a national backlash. These guys just can’t help but shove their way of life down everyone’s throat.
    This will be a good forum to show them the door

  2. This is lunacy. I brought lunch to my nyc ps because we were kosher. If you can’t eat the food, bring your own. Schools have an obligation to provide education. Spending $$ on religious demands in a secular environment is irresponsible.

  3. yeah, real brilliant..cater to the ones who want us dead….halal supports jihad…this is jihad …there is law jihad, education jihad, etc etc….does anyone remember 9/11? 1993? Times Square, the shoe bomber, Rabbi Kahane shot by muslim? Muslims are trying to take over….they are murdering CHristians all over the world…they are murdering Jews and Hindus and Buddhists all over the world…stoning, acid attacks, cutting off clits…etc etc RAPE..but yeah, give them the food….yeah, cater to those who want us dead…how STUPID are you NYC council? VERY STUPID

  4. Lani Lowell Separation of church and state. if it passes there will a national backlash. These guys just can't help but shove their way of life down everyone's throat.
    This will be a good forum to show them the door

  5. And therein lies the problem!! HOW THE HELL DID MUSLIMS come to make up 12% of NYC students? What fool has allowed the enemy to immigrate to this country? 13 years after these bastards killed 3,000 Americans in NYC, and we haven’t terminated Muslim immigration? 35% of Detroit students are Muslim?? THIS COUNTRY IS HEADED FOR CIVIL WAR, PEOPLE! Open your eyes and see what happens when MUSLIMS achieve a ‘critical mass.’ That’s when the fun begins, people.

  6. This is lunacy. I brought lunch to my nyc ps because we were kosher. If you can't eat the food, bring your own. Schools have an obligation to provide education. Spending $$ on religious demands in a secular environment is irresponsible.

  7. If this culture needs a specific food it is understandable, so New Your will have to put in separate freezer and food storage area. Also create a separate serving line for this culture. But at no time should this accommodation force their cultures food on anyone else.

  8. I think the ACLU should be involved on behalf of the ethnicities that are being ignored. If Jews, Catholics, vegetarian Hindus, Buddhists etc. fight for their “food rights” maybe the school system will back off. Someone else said it, keep religion out of public schools.

  9. I think the ACLU should be involved on behalf of the ethnicities that are being ignored. If Jews, Catholics, vegetarian Hindus, Buddhists etc. fight for their “food rights” maybe the school system will back off. Someone else said it, keep religion out of public schools.

  10. This is great for NY…..they are proud liberals who welcome Muslims with open arms. NY Jews vote liberal at every opportunity. Let this liberal snake pit reap what it sows. They are all a bunch of stupid frogs just sitting around while the water gets hotter and hotter.

  11. Why cant they look at different ways to provide lunch so the children can eat together and appreciate each others differences? Like having potluck days or food coops. I would want to share my diest even if its merely educational. (as in school). It could mean adjusting staff to allow for more flexibility. It could mean vegetarian lunches as a default.

  12. Ray Lanfear , while I of course free with most of what you say, you are wrong when you say or think “I have no problem with the “peaceful Muslims” that wants to integrate into our culture and follow our laws..” A MUSLIM IS A MUSLIM. Every Muslim is free to recognize and to RENOUNCE THE EVIL THAT IMBUES ISLAM!! THERE IS NOTHING ABOUT IT THAT DOES NOT REEK OV EVIL. NOTHING! So a ‘peaceful Muslim’ is someone who will reproduce MORE MUSLIMS – and many of them WILL NOT BE PEACEFUL. THE RELIGION’S PRIMARY DIRECTIVE IS TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD! Islam is Islam. There is no such thing as ‘moderate Islam.’ Does a ‘moderate Muslim’ NOT believe that he must advance the goal of Islam – to dominate the world? He most certainly believes that. Have you heard CAIR or any Musim say that he renounces the belief that they intend to wipe Israel and the Jews into the Sea? Well, my Christian friends . . . YOU ARE THE NEW JEWS!

  13. Interesting point , because the kids will only learn one thing if this passes and is implemented, that Muslims can DEMAND what they want from America and will get it. Not good training unless you want a mini generation of sociopaths!

  14. These people won’t inter grate in any form & will fight to change your local school policies covering Teachers, lesson types, Teachers & have Halal food as the preferred choice of food. It is happening everywhere in the USA & UK. I can’t believe the good people of these Countries are allowing this to happen? Stand up & have these people integrate or take a walk.

  15. And therein lies the problem!! HOW THE HELL DID MUSLIMS come to make up 12% of NYC students? What fool has allowed the enemy to immigrate to this country? 13 years after these bastards killed 3,000 Americans in NYC, and we haven't terminated Muslim immigration? 35% of Detroit students are Muslim?? THIS COUNTRY IS HEADED FOR CIVIL WAR, PEOPLE! Open your eyes and see what happens when MUSLIMS achieve a 'critical mass.' That's when the fun begins, people.

  16. The Muslims will take us back to primitive days if they are allowed to breed as they do now in our cities. They are not peace lovers and they hate anyone who is not a muslim.

  17. during Passover I had to bring my own matza. I did not grow up religious, but that was a custom we kept. Schools did not supply. In college, matza was made available, but the food wasn’t kosher or kosher for passover at all. It wasn’t expected, I attended a public college, not private religious college

  18. This is great for NY…..they are proud liberals who welcome Muslims with open arms. NY Jews vote liberal at every opportunity. Let this liberal snake pit reap what it sows. They are all a bunch of stupid frogs just sitting around while the water gets hotter and hotter.

  19. I agree. Abraham Lincoln said, “To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men”. When our mainstream news will not inform you of one of the main issues of the 21st Century, due to political correctness, then it’s time not to be silent anymore.

    Muslim refugees from Somalia and other “warzones” to the tune of 500,000 being relocated to America is the issue. Forget about being labeled a racist, bigot or being politically correct, silence won’t turn back the tide. This immigration is a real and growing and is a threatening danger to America. Just look at Europe today folks. 60 million Muslims immigrated to Europe and 80% are on some sort of public assistance, bankrupting the towns, cities and countries.

    The time has come to speak up and take a stand folk, for America. Awareness is the issue as most families are simply far too busy, working two jobs, raising their children and do not have a clue or the time to research the issue.

    I have done that for you, if you Google “TheProjectMuslimBrotherhood” you will find that this is their doctrine to destroy America and West from within by stealth jihad, and lies. Guess what, the doctrine is over 20 years old, and they are making substantial progress. We are now approaching 2400 Mosques along with approximately 2.7 million Muslims here in America.
    “We will conquer Europe! (They are almost there) We will conquer America! Not through the sword but through Dawa (proselytizing) Yosuf-alQarawi, Muslim Brotherhood.”

    Massive immigration and multiculturalism is literally destroying most of Europe today. There are over 700 “Islamic No Go Zones”, within France, England and Germany, where police cannot enter. Take a look around you Dearborn, Michigan, Maine, Tennessee, Minnesota, (has the majority of Somalia refugees and a Senator who took his oath and placed his hand on the Quran refused the Bible.) New York, California, Colorado for examples of the immigration resettlement program, and very soon coming to your State. Over 90% of them are illiterate and in need of public assistance. Have you been to Paris recently? Immigration is bankrupting much of Europe.

    I have no problem with the “peaceful Muslims” that wants to integrate into our culture and follow our laws. The problem lies in that the militant Muslims dominate the peaceful ones and eventually wants to force Islam and Sharia law upon us all. They agitate and campaign to dominate the rest. Why should America be forced into adapting to their culture? They must adapt to our culture. The Boston bombers were motivated by extreme militant Islamic beliefs. Our mainstream news is in denial of the danger of understating the issue of the Muslim/Islam problem in America today. Many of the Mosques are breeding grounds for home grown terrorists. Today in our prisons over 18% of the prison population are being converted to Islam by recruitment by extremists. Islam berg, in New York is a breeding ground for over 30 militant training compounds in America today. The media has yet to uncover the truth.

    Sad to say, they are making inroads into every facet of our lives and trying to change our culture, under the guise of the first amendment. Already, they are changing our schools, universities, cities, towns and even our own government has been infiltrated. They want Sharia law and will stop at nothing to see that it happens. School textbooks are being changed to put Islam in a more favorable light. Have you been to a school board meeting recently? Food menus are being changed to accommodate all of them.

    The Saudis “oil money” contributes to schools, universities and politicians so they can put Islam in a more favorable light in America. Their intent is to destroy us from within, not by “war” but rather by stealth jihad and intentional deception and front organizations like “CAIR” who support Hamas. They are gradually succeeding folks. There are now over 50 Islamic organizations within our own borders. Concessions made to Muslims are growing everyday in America. You are just not aware or do not care.

    When Jews, Christians, Priests, Infidels are being slaughtered and murdered, and churches are being burned down did you ever wonder why the so called peaceful moderate Muslims, never speak out against these atrocities? Europe is losing the battle and America in less than a generation will be next. Where is the condemnation from the nearly 3 Million Muslims that are here, have you heard a word from them? Their silence speaks volumes on their real intent to destroy us from within and have no intention of ever living within our culture. They want Sharia law in America today folks. They want to wage war against freedom and democracy and have America continue to make concessions for them. You give them “one inch” and they will take a mile in support of their goals to establish Islam as the dominate religion in America and for the eventual mandate for Sharia law to take over our court system. They just accomplished that fact, in England this week.

    Islam is a political ideology; it is the antithesis of a free society. One generation of silence on the issue due to political correctness is all it takes. What you do today and tomorrow will affect your children and grandchildren and future generations of America, yet unborn. Stand up and be counted to defeat this real threat from within. Voice your opinion, let your congressmen, senators and school boards know how you feel on the issue. Our freedom and liberty is at stake, be part of the solution folks.

    Forget about being labeled and simply do what is right for America. We need a permanent solution, time is running out. Let us not become the next Europe. As for me I refuse to be silent on the issue. One person can make a difference, but think if were united, what a difference we can make to turn back the tide and doctrine of the Muslim Brotherhood. Enough is enough folks, if you do just one thing today, Google “TheProjectMuslimBrotherhood” and see for yourself their intent to destroy America from within. Thank you, and please forward this to millions. Let me know your opinions.

  20. Ray Lanfear , while I of course free with most of what you say, you are wrong when you say or think "I have no problem with the “peaceful Muslims” that wants to integrate into our culture and follow our laws.." A MUSLIM IS A MUSLIM. Every Muslim is free to recognize and to RENOUNCE THE EVIL THAT IMBUES ISLAM!! THERE IS NOTHING ABOUT IT THAT DOES NOT REEK OV EVIL. NOTHING! So a 'peaceful Muslim' is someone who will reproduce MORE MUSLIMS – and many of them WILL NOT BE PEACEFUL. THE RELIGION'S PRIMARY DIRECTIVE IS TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD! Islam is Islam. There is no such thing as 'moderate Islam.' Does a 'moderate Muslim' NOT believe that he must advance the goal of Islam – to dominate the world? He most certainly believes that. Have you heard CAIR or any Musim say that he renounces the belief that they intend to wipe Israel and the Jews into the Sea? Well, my Christian friends . . . YOU ARE THE NEW JEWS!

  21. They need to go where they can get every little thing they want ~ home!! How dare they come here thinking they with do as they please and push aside our American way of doing things. They can have their ethnic food at home. Based on the vast majority of Islamist who have traveled out of their land only to create havoc in other countries tells me we don’t need them here or anywhere else they can’t conform. It’s not like we’re asking them to kill people ~

  22. They can always fix their children’s lunches at home and send them to school with them. We’ve never fixed special foods for foreigners before and it is crazy to require it now.We have people from a lot of countries here and none have been as demanding on changes as Muslims.They made the decision to come to America, so they should learn to adapt.

  23. These people won't inter grate in any form & will fight to change your local school policies covering Teachers, lesson types, Teachers & have Halal food as the preferred choice of food. It is happening everywhere in the USA & UK. I can't believe the good people of these Countries are allowing this to happen? Stand up & have these people integrate or take a walk.

  24. They need to go where they can get every little thing they want ~ home!! How dare they come here thinking they with do as they please and push aside our American way of doing things. They can have their ethnic food at home. Based on the vast majority of Islamist who have traveled out of their land only to create havoc in other countries tells me we don't need them here or anywhere else they can't conform. It's not like we're asking them to kill people ~

  25. They wont your government your schools your city’s and towns your church’s your life, then it will be your head when you don’t reply to there way of life and burn your house down,you better think there way or you will surly die .Its a game there playing now”” were just like you we wont what you American’s wont freedom “” O’ put we wont the food to be good for us, don’t you wont that for us.its good for you also you no .then we got to pray three or four time’s a day that will be good exercise also’ up and down, up and down don’t you wont that for us’ o we think it would be a good idea too for women to ware covering over them ,it will keep your men from lusting after women don’t you think,and i think it would be a good idea too , beat them”” if they don’t keep covered up its a good thing women are a little lower then men you no! well’ i need your children you no the good of alla you no God”’,we need to strap a cu-boom on them you no! to piece’s”” well you can have more kids you no “” there a dime a dozen………….Get real here fight for our country or were going to loose it plan and semple !!!!!.

  26. As a product of the New York City Public School system, I am appalled by this. There were never any concessions made when I was attending as a Jewish student, and concessions should not be made now. If my mother wanted me eating something specific, for whatever reason, she packed my lunches. End of story. The school was not required to make any concessions for any religious belief system in terms of food. Why is this all of a sudden such an immense issue?!

  27. Hang in a minute, half the women are not covering their faces with that nihab or whatever the they call it, I thought they claimed it was religious and that they had to wear, oh wait in truth, it is an optional garment, and NOT A RELIGIOUS ITEM.

  28. Wait, wouldn’t a requirement like this be the government itself involving religion in a state run institution? If they can demand a religiouly dictacted diet, then why can’t Christians demand a christmas tree in the lobby?

  29. Ahron, I doubt that… if they react to a brand, or a cut, or any other skin sore, I would bet they feel it and the die slowly, scared and suffering. I quick bullet/bolt to the brain and instant death is much more humane.

  30. In England they get whatever they ask for. our kids have to eat halal or go without as they gave in to Muslims and stopped pork/ham being served, and only Halal meat etc. They are also allowing Sharia law be put into our laws. These are evil people determined to take over the world. and our STUPID Half baked governments go along with them. They should be shipped out to the desert.

  31. First they are suspect of blowing up the twin tower, then they want to build a mosques on the 9/11 site, and now they want tax payer feed them Hallal. What about a free trip to the Palestine which never existed.

  32. Why don’t the kids just bring their own lunches prepared at home? Why won’t Kosher food be an option? Or vegan? Or gluten-free? Maybe they will demand that every restaurant, cafeteria, dining establishment offer Halal to the exclusion of Kosher and other dietary options. That is morally wrong. Avoid food that cause allergies.
    Instead offer vegan, vegetarian, kosher, halal, gluten-free, sugar-free, sodium free, fat-free, cholesterol-free options to please everyone’s dietary and health needs.

  33. You are correct Rick. Years ago, before there were any Halal meat places in my town, those who observed Halal did their shopping at the Kosher butchers. Therefore, two religious groups could be accommodated easily enough by requiring that Kosher food be made available. Of course, the whole matter stinks – this is public school; if you have a special dietary need, bring the food from home.

  34. In England they get whatever they ask for. our kids have to eat halal or go without as they gave in to Muslims and stopped pork/ham being served, and only Halal meat etc. They are also allowing Sharia law be put into our laws. These are evil people determined to take over the world. and our STUPID Half baked governments go along with them. They should be shipped out to the desert.

  35. The thing about halal restrictions (and, I’m afraid, kashrut too) is that it’s self-imposed and it can too fussy (which enzymes are in the food, what’s in the molecules? — this is genuine). The schools should do so much to accommodate dietary restrictions (no pork, for example, nothing cooked in alcohol), but the rest should be up to the parents. If food is brought from home and is cold by lunchtime, too bad. There are loads of great foods eaten cold, so it’s not the worst hardship. And isn’t some hardship part of the point behind halal and kosher, like fasting in Ramadan? I’m more sympathetic to the kosher argument, because Jews in the main aren’t out there trying to impose their own restrictions on everybody. I’m a diabetic and have severe food restrictions, but I don’t go to my supermarket demanding they should only stock food with low sugar content or even bring items in just for diabetics.

  36. New York City and the current Administration has gone, medically speaking, NUTSO ! For years and years, NYC schoolchildren received their packed lunch from Home and then ate it at school. Where is it written that a hot lunch and only a hot lunch is required (Free of course)
    Lunch is the Parent’s responsibility not the Board of Education nor the
    NYC City Council. Why not concentrate on major problems and issues
    like crime, congested traffic, street vendors and the crazies walking the streets. Shame!

  37. NYC Bd of Ed should not cater to any religious demands.,Muslim or any others should attend a religiousschool or bring their own lunches from home..Don’t like it,than go elsewhere to live.

  38. Just ask and you will get Kosher meals. That is what the Muslims did. Can not give to one group and not another. That would be discrimination. I wonder how many other dietary laws there are that must be observed?

  39. Konrad Omeltschenko Dds because the lack of oxygen and blood to the brain means that it is brain dead. A bullet to the brain takes many minutes to take affect. This has been checked by measuring the electrical output of the brain.

  40. It is a crime to propose such a bill. Legislators are elected to represent all the people of their district. Turning a blind eye to crimes by government officials is what dropped America from a ‘super-power’ to a running joke….

  41. Why not serve kosher food. That would also satisfy the Halal criteria. Of course there would be serious problems with the preparation of the food. Kosher kitchens for meat and another for dairy and the restrictions of not serving meat and dairy simultaneously. Probably be easier and cheaper to have meals catered and delivered.LOL

  42. Richard Moss – “Brain Dead” only occurs after several minutes of the brain being deprived of oxygen, which means the animal is suffering and dieing until the time that the brain shuts down. Come on Man! Please tell me you are not ignorant enough to think that slitting a throat instantly kills the brain? No Wonder Obama and his cronnies have won twice…

  43. Here is a comment regarding the butchering method.my husband had to visit killing floors as part of his job working with meat inspectors… the one he found the most difficult to witness was the Kosher plant — the animal has its throat cut, and it is conscious while it happens. He said that he saw animals hung upside down while they looked to be still alive… He hasn’t been able to eat Kosher meat since that day…

  44. First they are suspect of blowing up the twin tower, then they want to build a mosques on the 9/11 site, and now they want tax payer feed them Hallal. What about a free trip to the Palestine which never existed.

  45. Why don't the kids just bring their own lunches prepared at home? Why won't Kosher food be an option? Or vegan? Or gluten-free? Maybe they will demand that every restaurant, cafeteria, dining establishment offer Halal to the exclusion of Kosher and other dietary options. That is morally wrong. Avoid food that cause allergies.
    Instead offer vegan, vegetarian, kosher, halal, gluten-free, sugar-free, sodium free, fat-free, cholesterol-free options to please everyone's dietary and health needs.

  46. Glenn Watson Looks like you may have been one of those who voted for Obama from the way you parrot of false information instead of listening to one who has worked with livestock and in slaughter houses and witnessed it all first hand.

  47. You are correct Rick. Years ago, before there were any Halal meat places in my town, those who observed Halal did their shopping at the Kosher butchers. Therefore, two religious groups could be accommodated easily enough by requiring that Kosher food be made available. Of course, the whole matter stinks – this is public school; if you have a special dietary need, bring the food from home.

  48. Konrad Omeltschenko Dds “looked to be alive” that is the key, you fail to distinguish between reflex reactions and death. Continue to eat your “stunned meat” if you like where the animal writhes in agony, pumps all kinds of toxins into the meat until it dies because until then all the organs are still functioning.

  49. The thing about halal restrictions (and, I'm afraid, kashrut too) is that it's self-imposed and it can too fussy (which enzymes are in the food, what's in the molecules? — this is genuine). The schools should do so much to accommodate dietary restrictions (no pork, for example, nothing cooked in alcohol), but the rest should be up to the parents. If food is brought from home and is cold by lunchtime, too bad. There are loads of great foods eaten cold, so it's not the worst hardship. And isn't some hardship part of the point behind halal and kosher, like fasting in Ramadan? I'm more sympathetic to the kosher argument, because Jews in the main aren't out there trying to impose their own restrictions on everybody. I'm a diabetic and have severe food restrictions, but I don't go to my supermarket demanding they should only stock food with low sugar content or even bring items in just for diabetics.

  50. What a bunch of crap. What is your evidence? Besides we are talking about legislating Halal diet into our school system. Take your Muslim sharia and halal ideas and shove them.

  51. New York City and the current Administration has gone, medically speaking, NUTSO ! For years and years, NYC schoolchildren received their packed lunch from Home and then ate it at school. Where is it written that a hot lunch and only a hot lunch is required (Free of course)
    Lunch is the Parent's responsibility not the Board of Education nor the
    NYC City Council. Why not concentrate on major problems and issues
    like crime, congested traffic, street vendors and the crazies walking the streets. Shame!

  52. I Agree If There gonna change there menu’s they should change it for all religions not just Islams jewish people have the right to have a hot meal at lunch to if there useing the excuse if they bringing up if they bring it from home it want be hot..

  53. Sorry to confuse you with the facts. My evidence is first hand experience and observation. Looks like you have halal on the brain, which may have clouded it because I’m talking about kosher slaughter.

  54. Konrad Omeltschenko Dds because the lack of oxygen and blood to the brain means that it is brain dead. A bullet to the brain takes many minutes to take affect. This has been checked by measuring the electrical output of the brain.

  55. What about Hindus and Sikhs for whom halal is a sin as the animals /and other items are made to suffer intolearble pain and cruelty when they are being slaughtered If you give Halal to Muslims you have to give Jhatka to Hindus/Sikhs and Kosher to Jews

  56. It is a crime to propose such a bill. Legislators are elected to represent all the people of their district. Turning a blind eye to crimes by government officials is what dropped America from a 'super-power' to a running joke….

  57. Kosher is not currently offered. If Halal should be offered, Kosher standards are even stricter and should prevail. I see nothing wrong with parents taking responsibility to feed their own children.The idea that schools should be responsible takes away the responsibility that all parents have when they decide to have children.

  58. Why not serve kosher food. That would also satisfy the Halal criteria. Of course there would be serious problems with the preparation of the food. Kosher kitchens for meat and another for dairy and the restrictions of not serving meat and dairy simultaneously. Probably be easier and cheaper to have meals catered and delivered.LOL

  59. Here is a comment regarding the butchering method.my husband had to visit killing floors as part of his job working with meat inspectors… the one he found the most difficult to witness was the Kosher plant — the animal has its throat cut, and it is conscious while it happens. He said that he saw animals hung upside down while they looked to be still alive… He hasn't been able to eat Kosher meat since that day…

  60. Glenn Watson Looks like you may have been one of those who voted for Obama from the way you parrot of false information instead of listening to one who has worked with livestock and in slaughter houses and witnessed it all first hand.

  61. Konrad Omeltschenko Dds "looked to be alive" that is the key, you fail to distinguish between reflex reactions and death. Continue to eat your "stunned meat" if you like where the animal writhes in agony, pumps all kinds of toxins into the meat until it dies because until then all the organs are still functioning.

  62. What a bunch of crap. What is your evidence? Besides we are talking about legislating Halal diet into our school system. Take your Muslim sharia and halal ideas and shove them.

  63. David Schwartz To the contrary. For elected officials to propose the bill is conspiracy to violate the rights of citizens and using governmental position to favor one group at the expense of others….. Likewise it is a violation of their oaths to uphold the Constitutions of the US & NY.

  64. Going to school as a child, I brought my own lunch if I didn’t like what was served. Observant Jews brought their own kosher food. The Muslims are trying to “Islamacize” (?) the world.

  65. I Agree If There gonna change there menu's they should change it for all religions not just Islams jewish people have the right to have a hot meal at lunch to if there useing the excuse if they bringing up if they bring it from home it want be hot..

  66. Kosher is not currently offered. If Halal should be offered, Kosher standards are even stricter and should prevail. I see nothing wrong with parents taking responsibility to feed their own children.The idea that schools should be responsible takes away the responsibility that all parents have when they decide to have children.

  67. how about grits, turnip greens and fried chicken for the children from the southern states? Quit kissing Muslim asses and tell them to take their kids and go back to where ever they came from. This ass kissing has got to stop. If they can’t fit in then go home!

  68. There is a separation of church and state in the US. Tell them to bring a lunch from home or eat vegetarian. There are also children in the public school system who are on special diets because of their health. Their parents are required to pack their lunches.

  69. I was just thinking that – would love to request Kosher Organic, Gluten Free, Casein Free food for my little guy… we just pack it and done. Even if it is Halal, Kosher or otherwise cannot guarantee it is really wholesome food. There are foods that should not bear an hashkacha!

  70. David Schwartz To the contrary. For elected officials to propose the bill is conspiracy to violate the rights of citizens and using governmental position to favor one group at the expense of others….. Likewise it is a violation of their oaths to uphold the Constitutions of the US & NY.

  71. how about grits, turnip greens and fried chicken for the children from the southern states? Quit kissing Muslim asses and tell them to take their kids and go back to where ever they came from. This ass kissing has got to stop. If they can't fit in then go home!

  72. What next ??
    Bring a lunch like us all, and fit in.
    We would have to have a international spectrum of foods for all kids and their specifications, come on let’s wake up!!!
    Sit down and enjoy your lunch in a free country, you have been made welcome here,, enjoy!!

  73. There is a separation of church and state in the US. Tell them to bring a lunch from home or eat vegetarian. There are also children in the public school system who are on special diets because of their health. Their parents are required to pack their lunches.

  74. It's all the stupid PC crap that exists, what if a kid only eats steak and lobster, and then there is Kosher food, etc., etc. What did they eat in Iraq or whatever other forsaken piece of desert they did they check with GI's who gave them Chocolate or K's if they were halal, now they want the taxpayers to foot the bill for their take over. Chuck you Farley!

  75. How dare these Muslims demand such a convenience from us, INFIDELS, when at the end the will cut off our heads.
    We are not obliged to listen to them, but they should listen to our rules, o so transparency as Obama says, about our well defended CONSTITUCION!

  76. I was just thinking that – would love to request Kosher Organic, Gluten Free, Casein Free food for my little guy… we just pack it and done. Even if it is Halal, Kosher or otherwise cannot guarantee it is really wholesome food. There are foods that should not bear an hashkacha!

  77. i think kosher should be demanded,also special foods for people that are highly allergic to peanuts wait what about the people who cannot eat flour products wait what about people who are vegetarians

  78. Should Mexican be serve burritos for lunch? Com on give a break, this to transparency to believe it. Yalah, Yalah get back to ur whatever you came from.

    Detroit is packed with these characters.

  79. America welcome to the real world, look what is happening to Ukraine, why the American Ukrainian don’t demand, they are been victims too. Wake up America next it would be Shari’a Law as part of the
    obligated new
    transparency constitution.

  80. Are the non-muslim worlds Now allowing these so-called muslims to dictate how we should do things? This is sooooo wrong!!! These kind of people show be told…If you can’t live in our countries and not follow our kind of life because of your beliefs…Pls LEAVE our country!!!! and live in your own crazy world!!!

  81. What next ??
    Bring a lunch like us all, and fit in.
    We would have to have a international spectrum of foods for all kids and their specifications, come on let's wake up!!!
    Sit down and enjoy your lunch in a free country, you have been made welcome here,, enjoy!!

  82. Are the non-muslim worlds Now allowing these so-called muslims to dictate how we should do things? This is sooooo wrong!!! These kind of people show be told…If you can't live in our countries and not follow our kind of life because of your beliefs…Pls LEAVE our country!!!! and live in your own crazy world!!!

  83. How dare these Muslims demand such a convenience from us, INFIDELS, when at the end the will cut off our heads.
    We are not obliged to listen to them, but they should listen to our rules, o so transparency as Obama says, about our well defended CONSTITUCION!

  84. Should Mexican be serve burritos for lunch? Com on give a break, this to transparency to believe it. Yalah, Yalah get back to ur whatever you came from.

    Detroit is packed with these characters.

  85. No Jewish groups have demanded that kosher food be offered because Jewish students who observe kashrut go to Jewish schools. However, kosher would be a better alternative because Muslims are permitted to eat kosher but Jews cannot eat Halal food.

  86. it is ok, calm down, they just want to take over America and make it a islamic country, the day govt opens the door to peaceful and innocent muslim, you know this is going to happen, whoever let them in, let him be punished for treason.

  87. Bring a lunch like the thousands of other kids stop whining and get with the program see if you can dictate or even ask for certain privileges in your homeland I think NOT Enjoy your freedom here

  88. Chaz Wells SICKENING AINT IT BRO?………i just dont understand why we do these things for these people that want us all dead…….should we maybe set them up w some rifles and explosives too? nahhhhh theyll find those on their own im sure…..

  89. I go to Staten Island tech, and the food here is kosher. It’s be nice to have some halal food alongside the kosher food, so the many Muslims in my school, don’t have to eat pizza every day.

  90. Uh, I’m a muslim, and I promise, me and my other Muslims will not cut off your head, or anyone’s for that matter. The constitution supports practicing of religion, and the way Jews can’t eat non kosher food, Muslims can’t eat haram. I go to a public high school, where there is kosher food served. I don’t see the issue with halal food also being served.

  91. America is just as much my home as yours. I was born and raised here, and so are many of the other Muslims. We aren’t going against a law, in asking for religiously proper food, when public schools serve kosher food also.

  92. But if we’re going with telling people to go back to where they came from, remember America is made up of immigrants. This place belonged to the native Americans first, so unless you’re Native American descent, you belong here as much as the next Muslim

  93. Terry Myers I do not understand your post what is wrong with making sure Jewish children have enough to eat to. Are you telling me to go back where I came from and who is a worthless camel jockey?

  94. They have the religious freedom to eat anything they want..That doesn’t mean the public schools need to provide for them. Pack a lunch from home if the USDA guidelines that the schools go by isn’t according to your religion. This is a predictable move on the part of Muslims, even when they are in the minority. Go to You tube and look up the video “What Islam is Not”. This is a predictable step. It doesn’t end with Halal food. Next it’s segregated gym classes, prayer time, etc. etc. The halal food push also gives the butchering jobs over to Muslims. I say this: maybe the Muslims should come out of the 7th century: food preparation has come along way since then. Halal food rules are unnecessary any more.

  95. Eema Manzoor I really appreciate the reasoning and dignity of your responses. It should be a rebuke to a lot of the people posting here. It’s great that your school serves kosher food. I don’t think most do, but I can’t say I know for sure what happens in NY public schools these days. And I certainly don’t see anything wrong with serving halal food as well. I think my issue is with people demanding it. I really think it’s time people stop demanding so much. The unhealthy culture of entitlement is really growing in this country.

  96. It is also against their religion to socialize or befriend anyone who is not Muslim. They are not our friends and never will be. We should never trust them, because of the beliefs they espouse, not because we are intolerant. They are completely intolerant of any other religion, unlike any other religion in the world today… The gentle Buddhists are even fighting back at this time!.

  97. The state should not get into providing for certain religions. It opens a Pandora’s box and sets a very dangerous precedent for the many future demands that will come from the Muslim community. They are always happy to break the rules for their agenda, but would NEVER bend for anyone else.

  98. Both Kosher and Halal food guidelines were designed in order to promote the health of their people back in the early centuries before refrigeration and the understanding of pathogens. It worked back then to protect the people’s health. Let’s all move into the 21st century and stop will all the nonsense of religious food rules. They are truly nonsense. And if you still want to follow it, that’s your chose and bring your lunch from home….

  99. Melinda Nonnon McLaughlin I’m a teenager, I’m pretty far from the seventh century. But, Halal food is halal specifically for health reasoning. There’s a reason we can eat some food and not others. I’m not going to by antibiotics every time I eat unhealthy and unsanitary food.

  100. Actually, I’m allowed to enter class later or leave earlier to pray. Believe it or not, most people are understanding of others practicing their beliefs, so long as it doesn’t harm others. And in halal food, alcohol and pork aren’t allowed. I don’t see any way a food can be prepared to make them good for you.

  101. Eema Manzoor : Silly girl, you misunderstood. You don’t need antibiotics to eat USDA food. Very silly…. In olden times, there were rules for food handling when there was no refrigeration and they didn’t understand microbiology. Pork couldn’t be eaten because of the danger of trichinosis. Those problems no longer exist. We now understand that cooking food to a certain temperature renders any pathogens incapacitated. Kosher and Halal is no longer necessary, with current food preparation science. In our country, you have freedom of religion, but that doesn’t mean we have to provide it to you….

  102. Marilyn Stoch I agree, it should be asked for diplomatically and cordially. Which is what has been done. People do believe in entitlement, and to a certain degree, I think we have a right to. If one religious community can be supported in practicing their beliefs, another should also be.

  103. Eema Manzoor: Again, pork is not bad for you- in the 7th century, maybe, if they didn’t cook it properly. You are mixing your argument- you are simply following Halal rules for religious reasons, not health reasons in America.

  104. I brought a cold tuna sandwich to school most days. Food and calories are necessary, whether it’s hot or cold doesn’t matter. In our country you are free to practice any religion you like. That doesn’t mean the taxpayers have to provide you with your religious beliefs. You and many other muslims are misunderstanding the freedom of religion concept.

  105. Melinda Nonnon McLaughlin I’d appreciate if you didn’t put words in my mouth. We don’t care who gives us our meat, so long as the animal was killed in the most humane way possible. And my muslim parents don’t want me to be a butcher. They want me to be a doctor. If you want to talk about muslims, I’d suggest studying the person every muslim aspires to be.

  106. An easy way for anyone to know that you don’t know what you’re saying is that you called us “Islamists” And thank you for not asking us to kill people, because in Islam, a muslim is not allowed to hurt another human being, unless it be self defense. And as an American born Muslim, I’d say I have as much of a right to be here as you ma’am.

  107. Eema Manzoor Understand Eema, halal food is butchered by Muslims only.. Muslims promote the Halal food issue for both reasons. I’ve seen videos on Halal butchering. It’s disgusting. They slit the throats of the animals just like they slit the throats of the ‘infidels’ in the Middle East- . I’ve seen that on You Tube also…And please don’t use the word ‘humane’ either, when it comes to any sort of throat slitting…butchering…..

  108. Melinda Nonnon McLaughlin No one said you had to. They’re saying it should be an option. And halal food isn’t just about pork. It’s about finding the most humane way to kill an animal. There’s certain ways the animal should be killed to make it as clean and humane as possible.

  109. Melinda Nonnon McLaughlin We don’t want to push Islam on anyone. I’m not forcing anyone to convert. And I can’t integrate any more than I have. Most muslims in AMerica were born here. We grew up with American culture and society

  110. In sorry for the followers of this misguided and violent religion that haven’t attacked us YET but I don’t trust them and I don’t want taxpayer money going towards feeding them, as far as I’m concerned they’re all vipers ready to strike.

  111. Eema Manzoor So you’re citing a psalm from the bible a a resource to tell me that pork’s bad??????REALLY???… I repeat: these books were written before any scientific knowledge of pathogens.

  112. Melinda Nonnon McLaughlin So because it’s in the middle east, that must mean Islam preaches it? Videos can be shot by anybody, claiming to be anybody. And halal food is not butchered by muslims only, I would know, I’m muslim. Go read the tafseer ibn katheer of the quran when it comes to what halal is, that’s the most credible resource you’ll find regarding muslim views.

  113. Melinda Nonnon McLaughlin If you read it properly, they speak about scientific evidence
    And as for scientific, the quran mentions things about biology and mathematics that our scientists are just finding out today.

  114. Eema Manzoor why not every other ethnic food it gets to be quite expensive, just go to school bring a lunch and use tupperware and reheat your Halal food in a microwave problem solved :)))))

  115. Eema Manzoor if im not mistaken, arent muslims ALLOWED to eat Kosher food? So what exactly is the problem here? And again, if im not mistaken, isnt the jewish population of new york comparable to the muslim population, so wouldnt it make more sense to provide kosher meals that take care of both populations? ALthough to me, just BEING muslim in newyork seems like a slap in the face, much less asking the people of that city to CATER to the needs of the same group that attacked them and then chanted “DEATH TO THE INFIDELS” … just sayin…it would kinda be like me saying “KILL THE MOOSLIMS” and then moving to bagdad or something and demanding to be served bacon three times a day…at YOUR expense… just doesnt seem like it would fly…

  116. or meatatarians… heck when i went to school NONE of it was edible.. i went home hungry most days… shouldnt *I* have been served something *I* liked? this girl is on here complaining that she shouldnt *have* to eat PIZZA every day!!! Man i wish i could have eaten pizza every day… heh.

  117. Oh My, and what about Mexican, Phillipinos, Italians, Irish, Russians, Yougoslavians, Jewish, Somalians, etc. Sorry yet this country is a melting pot of nationalities….since when does one nationality demand to have a special place!!!!

  118. Oh My, and what about Mexican, Phillipinos, Italians, Irish, Russians, Yougoslavians, Jewish, Somalians, etc. Sorry yet this country is a melting pot of nationalities….since when does one nationality demand to have a special place!!!! How about the Muslim parents providing them with their Halal meal instead of the government? My parents sent me to school with homemade boxed meals as a child when I did not like the meals given me by my school. Shouldn’t these immigrants do the same.

  119. I agree with you right up until you say “immigrants” many Americans are Muslim too. Of course, I would go further and ban Halal (and Kosher) as the methods of slaughtering beasts are even more cruel than the other methods used.

  120. ISLAM is not a “Religion” it is a “CULT” OF Murderers, Woman Abusers, Child Rapists, Pedophiles and Liars!! We must Resist or we will be hunted down and killed… these attacks are increasing world wide. If you think you can change these people you are crazy…this is all then know, they have been killing and waging war with other religons for over 2000 years..And they destroy everything they touch…. what makes you think they will change now?

  121. so my kid should be denied bacon because of someone else’s dietary restrictions? No ham sandwiches, no pepperoni, etc? Of course this would not be a real problems since these days it is all made out of turkey anyway so, meh. (being facetious, i homeschool, so i dont particularly care what slop the school system serves, but i dont like the idea of my tax dollars going to pay for special everything…for a select self selected minority)

  122. and you poor people cant even fight back because you arent allowed to have guns… At least you are honest, too many from over the pond are saying we americans need to bow down like everyone else.

  123. Eema Manzoor you do have as much right to be here as anyone else, what you do NOT have the right to do is force others to abide by your religion, any more than *I* have a right to shut down all the steakhouses and hamburger joints every friday. My highschool served hamburgers EVERY friday… you know what i did? Packed a lunch. Get over yourself.

  124. Chuck Lowenstein bet that burned… relying on those you profess to hate for the food you eat… good thing for them Jews arent the murdering people muslims claim them to be, or there wouldnt be a muslim infestation in newyork… they would all be dead from poisoned kosher beef.

  125. Eema Manzoor wake up and smell the bacon, you want to refuse it because of your religious beliefs, that is fine, but there is NO scientific evidence that there is ANYTHING wrong with pork today. Back in the days when pigs roamed the streets eating garbage or maybe in your parents home town where they still do, you might have a problem, but here in america, pork is clean, wholesome food, low in fat, high in protein, juicy and delicious. I dont eat meat on fridays because it is against my religion, but i dont lie to myself or the world and pretend there is something wrong with the meat, i stand by my convictions and accept it for what it is, a religious discipline. If you truly believe in your religion, then you dont have to justify it to anyone, just believe it and do what you know to be right. I think you should look deeper into the origins but that is me. If i found out that Jesus raped a 9 year old girl i would no longer be a Christian, but again, that is me.

  126. Edema Manzoor you seem like a good kid but I’m sure you’ve been brainwashed by that evil cult you belong to and if you ever started thinking for yourself and decided to leave it your family would probably cut your head off so I do feel sorry for you…good luck.

  127. Marie Benghazi Noybn I’ve studied my religion in depth very well, thanks for the suggestion. And yeah, if Islam did allow someone to rape a nine year old girl, I wouldn’t follow it too. Good thing it doesn’t. And good thing Muhammad didn’t. I respect your religion enough not to make assumptions about things I don’t know. If I have a question about it, I ask a christian. I suggest before judging someone or another like this in a way that definitely is not preached by Christianity, you do the same.

  128. I guess I’ve been misinterpreting all those statements in the Quran about treating women with respect, lying is a sin and such. Although I don’t see how I can misinterpret the words “Lying is a sin.” and “Women are treasures in Islam” Thanks for telling me I’m abused though, not getting the latest iPhone is really painful

  129. Eema Manzoor Oh but i HAVE talked to muslims about it, they told me things like “it was accepted, she was his wife” and “they married when she was six, he waited until she was a woman (menstruated) at nine to have sexual relations with her” like that makes it ok. Look up Aisha, please. This is one of Mohammeds wives, the man you base your entire religion on… the great prophet who claims Jesus is a prophet yet a liar… i dont see how he can be both but..

  130. Marie Benghazi Noybn kosher and halal aren’t the same thing bro. What’s wrong with being Muslim in New York. And no muslim ever chanted “Death to the Infidels” and attacked New York. I’ve lived here my whole life. Realize that just like any other religion, once you hurt an innocent person in Islam, you are no longer Muslim. And you won’t be forgiven until those you have hurt have forgiven you. Your narrow mindedness is disheartening, muslims are just as human as you are.

  131. Also, adding “just saying” or “but that’s just my opinion” while adding a thinly veiled insult is a little too catty for me to be willing to have a serious conversation with you. I’m ending this here. Nothing I say will open your hearts and your mind to that fact that we are all human, and humans need to be open to learning about other humans without so much judgement. God help you. I sincerely wish you the best in life.

  132. Marie Benghazi Noybn I know very well about Aisha. And I along with any other practicing muslim know that she and him most definitely didn’t get married when she was six and have sex when she was nine. Furthermore, muslims love Jesus. We believe he was a prophet, but we would never call him a liar. We believe he never claimed himself to be son of god.

  133. Now now… a LOT of muslims of this generation are being raised by people who have actually discarded many of the bad parts of the koran and remodeled the religion into a kind of parody mixture of muslim, Christian, and Jewish beliefs, kinda the same way there are different denominations of Christianity and even Jewish traditions… they came here to escape the more traditional aspects of their faiths, to have a better life and pretend that the muslims that are killing people, mutilating women, and raping children are not following “true islam” while the ones back East are claiming that the ones here are not following “true islam” to which i say, YAY. She isnt living any more of a lie than most secular americans, so let her be. From the sound of her i highly doubt she belongs to one of those families who are still cutting their daughters clitoris out or sewing their vaginas closed or beheading them if they have sex.. so thats good. There are good and bad in every religion, which ones are the outcasts are telling, but that is something you and i understand, that someone in the middle of it wouldnt necessarily. Lets just be glad this young lady has good parents who arent mistreating her and maybe we wont see her on the news at some future date. The good thing is that i think MOST of the ones who came to america BEFORE 9-11 and STAYED are GOOD people… they have chosen to live in a free country and raise their children peacefully. I can live with that. This girl is on the internet, presumably without her parents hanging over her shoulder, so that is also a VERY good sign, since the militant ones dont usually have that much freedom. Peace be with you child.

  134. Kenny Codner You must have had a LARGE Catholic population in your school district.. we had hamburger every friday… Catholics brought tuna sandwiches. And ate them COLD… horror of horrors… actually more like room temp which was worse heh. I lived in the south, lunch meats didnt stay cold till lunch and my mom wasnt smart enough to put a frozen juice box in there like i did for my son..

  135. You spelled my name wrong. My parents gave me the choice to follow whatever religion I want. And I may be younger than you, but when it comes to being non judgemental and keeping an open mind, I act way older

  136. Marie Benghazi Noybn You don’t need to defend me when you can’t accept me as I am. I do follow true Islam. The only thing is that most of you don’t even know what that is. I’ve read and studied the quran for years, and I know it doesn’t condone violence or any injustice. That’s the only reason I can’t hate those who hate me for being a muslim, because I know god loves those who keep open minds and open hearts. Who know to study something thoroughly before talking about it. And these are basic human morals. Which from looking at these comments, I feel the world may be losing

  137. Eema Manzoor ~ we all agree we don’t want them to go hungry so guess what? They can eat what is on the menu for everyone else that day at school rather than go hungry. We don’t provide special meals for poor children who are natives of the US so we dang sure do not need to go out of our way to do favors for a violent cult that has destruction of the infidel on the brain.

  138. Eema Maanzoor : When I travel to certain states I do notice kosher food here and there. I don’t mind it. You know why? Because they are a caring, motivated people who treat others with respect. They do not have a violent attitude towards non Jews. They are not known for using sucker punch tactics against our land either. When you show & give respect only then will you get it in return.

  139. Peachy Sanders Bazemore Maybe you should listen to your own advice. Muslims don’t hate jews, the media says we do. Muslims didn’t attack land, crazy people did. Learn your facts.

  140. Peachy Sanders Bazemore I respect your opinion, but please refrain from referring to my religion and it’s followers as a violent cult with destruction of the infidels on it’s brain. It’s not. And again, the only natives of the US are the native americans. We all are immigrants ma’am, No matter how early your family migrated here

  141. Marie Benghazi Noybn So because it’s in Iran, it must be in Islam? If that was the case the millions of muslims in America and the rest of the world would be saying the same. A culture and a country, are not a religion. There is no country in the world that actually runs by Islamic rules.

  142. Will NYC schools then also offer Hindu vegetarian, Kosher and other meals in their cafeterias? Sounds like a restaurant to me. Expensive, too. Not the place of public schools to afford students their ethnic and religious diets. These kids can BROWN BAG it like we did when I went to public schools. My kids brown bagged their lunches, too. Religious beliefs belong at home, not in public schools.

  143. I’d appreciate if people stopped tagging me in their comments. I don’t need saving and frankly, it’s rude to be tagged in comments where I’m just insulted or my beliefs are insulted. This negativity, and the quickness to assume is tiring. I’d like to move on with my life, without getting constant notifications about people commenting insults, and that too, not even good ones. Thank you all, muslims don’t want world domination no matter what the media says, If you don’t believe me, I don’t care and good night, Go do whatever adults do rather than trying to pick a fight with someone half your age.

  144. As a muslim I don’t believe schools in the u.s. should be obligated to serve halal food, seperation of church and state, if you want halal food bring it from your own house, same goes for Jewish kids and kosher food, religion would never be an issue if we truly practiced seperation of church and state. thats like saying , Muslims should offer the option to have pork in schools in muslim counties which would never happen. Mutual Respect and understanding on both sides of the spectrum.

  145. Put a slice of bacon on every plate. See how they like demanding things then. Don’t like it then they can bring their own lunch.
    As for a religious Psalm, hate to break it to you but science beats out religion every time and has proven religion to constantly be wrong. That’s the truth and sorry if you can’t handle it.

  146. Muslims want Hals foods in schools then packs a damn lunch. Problem solved. I’m Jewish and never demanded kosher meals in school. I brought my lunch when necessary. Feel free to do the same.

  147. Alan Kardon I was specifically talking to those tagging me. And while I was raised to show respect to my elders, after 2 days of constant hateful comments being thrown at me by those who judge before knowing and hate blindly, it gets a little difficult to keep up a show of respect. Adults are supposed to set a good example. I didn’t see that with those arguing with me

  148. Eema Manzoor So I can understand, please explain to me what is the difference between Kosher and Halal? Also based on your religious views it is you, your Inman and Mosque that should be providing for the less fortunate who have nothing “Hot” to eat.

  149. Eema Manzoor Since you’ve read the Quran for many years, you know that lying to other Muslims is wrong, but lying to ‘infidels’ is justifiable under the term ‘taqiyya’ in order that Islam is furthered in the world. And how about ‘Dhimmitude’, in which those that are not Muslim are second class citizens who have to pay a tax, in order to be able to practice their religion. And then there’s ‘apostacy”, in which those who have ‘seen the light’ about Islam are afraid to leave it for fear of death. And how about the men getting virgins in heaven?? And how about wives being hit by their husbands? Don’t you see how weird this all is? These are some of the tenets of Islam that makes Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, etc. to mistrust Muslims. It’s not a true religion because it’s supremacist, hateful, disrespectful of other religions, and violent. It’s not our fault these types of practices are in your cult. I call it a cult, because it’s a fascist political ideology that aims to control every aspect of your life. And if you’d ever like to leave Islam, I’ll do anything I can to help you. At least you’d be safe her in America, if you choose to leave Islam. Imagine trying to leave Islam if you lived in your parent’s home country…..

  150. The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called ‘hypocrites’ and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join

  151. The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called ‘hypocrites’ and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join

  152. Melinda Nonnon McLaughlin Remember that the quran is written in poetry. Each verse has a story behind it. The verses saying to fight, were revealed when the muslims were being slaughtered in early Islam, yet they weren’t fighting back, because they believed they weren’t allowed to hurt anybody. So, they were told in the Quran, don’t let them kill you when you are innocent, defend yourself. Muslims have to give 2.5% of their yearly earnings to charity. The tax that non muslims had to pay was even less then that, and not to practice their religion, but so that they would be contributing to the community like everyone else. As is clearly explained in the quran. I can easily cite multiple verses in the quran, supporting women, and forbidding anyone from beating them. I’m trying to show how things taken out of context sound completely different than the actual situation. You can’t just pluck any verse, you have to look at what is written before and after it, because that describes the situation. Islam has never supported hating other religions, if it did, the billions of muslims in the world would hate every non-muslim. And they don’t. It’s not muslims fault that you are trying to “liberate” the free. That you can’t do your research. That you follow mainstream media. I’ve met my family from my parents home country many times, and they themselves say that yeah there’s a muslim majority there, but if a person isn’t muslim, they aren’t treated differently, more inferior. I’ve heard of barbaric christian, jewish, hindu, etc. practices, but I had the decency to ask my respective religion friends to explain it to me. And when they did, I saw what I heard was completely out of context.

  153. Melinda Nonnon McLaughlin I’m no safer in America than I am in the rest of the world. Rape, murder, killing people because of their beliefs, that all happens here too. I’ve had to learn to defend myself, because I’m aware that I can get attacked. Just for being at the wrong place at the wrong time. Allah is the muslim word for God. We believe Allah is the same exact god of Christians and Jews. And God alone is the best of planners and protectors. I will never leave Islam, no matter what you believe it is. The importance of peace is so important in Islam, that I feel obligated to leave this conversation with no hard feelings towards you, even though you have insulted me continuously. Because in the quran it also discusses how it’s human to be angry at someone, and it’s okay if you have the right to be. But those who love god, will let go of their anger, leave it up to God, and wish their insulters the best. So I sincerely wish you the best in this life. Only because I love God. Otherwise, I would’ve insulted you, worse than you’ve insulted me.

  154. And lying is never okay in Islam, to muslims and non muslims, unless it’s something like your mom made food you don’t like, asks you how it is, and to spare her feelings you lie and say it’s good

  155. Many immigrants have come to Canada and United States because the land is freedom. Never asking for the countries to change for them but for them to adapt with the new culture. Why do these countries continue to adapt to some immigrants who make noise?? We all have beliefs and rights cultural/religious but why does everyone have to accept what others do publically?

  156. I’d like to know, if a halal meal is so important why aren’t the parents sending the lunches with their children to school?

    Why should the US be forced to change its practices and customs for people who choose to come here? I don’t care if you are Catholic and want fish friday, a Jew who wants kosher or a hindu who wants no beef– if it’s THAT important, send the food with your kids to school.

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