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Church of Scotland Questions Right of Israel to Exist

Anti-Zionists have gone beyond the campaign to boycott Israel because of Jews in Judea and Samaria. Now, the Church of Scotland questions whether Jews even have a claim to Israel.

A Jewish boy wearing a kippa and holding an Israeli flag in Hebron.

Is Israel for Jews? A Jewish boy wearing a kippa and holding an Israeli flag in Hebron.
Photo Credit: Nati Shohat/Flash90

The Church of Scotland has written a document that suggests that Jews may not have a valid claim to the Land of Israel because of an “increasing number of difficulties and current Israeli policies regarding the Palestinians.”

Local Jewish leaders are up in arms and fear that if the church adopts the document at its annual general assembly, it may be become official church policy, the London Jewish Chronicle reported.

The Church of Scotland’s annual general assembly is to vote on the 5,000-word report later this month,

If the proposed view passes the vote, it may become “the considered view of the Church,” a spokesperson told the newspaper.

The document is a “deliberate attempt to question Israel’s right to exist” and would be “very damaging to interfaith relations in Scotland and throughout Britain, a Jewish leader, who remained anonymous, told the Chronicle.

The report is entitled “The Promised Land” and concludes that Christians should reject the idea that Jews have an exclusive claim to the Land of Israel. It also opposes using the Bible to “settle contemporary conflicts over land.”

“On behalf of the Jewish community of Scotland, we call upon the Church to withdraw it from the forthcoming general assembly. If the Church cannot build bridges, can it at least refrain from burning them?” Ephraim Borowski, Scottish Council of Jewish Communities director told the London Jewish newspaper.

Board of Deputies vice-president Jonathan Arkush said, “The document …appears to have been produced with no consultation with the Scottish or national Jewish community. It is littered with misrepresentations of Jewish history, values and beliefs as well as basic factual errors.

“It is an ignorant and tendentious document masquerading as a theological statement. The Church has done a deep disservice to itself by producing a document without any regard to the trust, respect and dialogue on which interfaith relations should be based.”

The Chronicle said that the report states, “There has been a widespread assumption by many Christians as well as many Jewish people that the Bible supports an essentially Jewish state of Israel. This raises an increasing number of difficulties and current Israeli policies regarding the Palestinians have sharpened this questioning….

“The desire of many in the State of Israel to acquire the land of Palestine for the Jewish people is wrong. The fact that the land is currently being taken by settlement expansion, the separation barrier, house clearance, theft and force makes it doubly wrong to seek biblical sanction for this.”

The document urged the Church not only to back the boycott movement but also to lobby the British government to pressure Israel to deny the presence of Jews in Judea and Samaria.

Ed Kessler, founder director of the Woolf Institute which studies interfaith relations, told the newspaper that the report demonstrates “it is easier for Christians to condemn anti-Semitism as a misunderstanding of Christian teaching than to come to terms with the re-establishment of the Jewish state…

“The document fails to take seriously the concerns of both sides but has a partisan agenda — the promotion of Palestinian rights. Why is it so rare to find Christian organizations, let alone Jewish, which are both pro-Palestinian and pro-Israeli? Blinkered views prevail.”

Sally Foster-Fulton, Convenor of the Church and Society Council, said, “The Church of Scotland chose the words of its report carefully to question and challenge not condemn or dismiss,” according to the Chronicle. “It cannot and will not shy away from difficult subjects nor from speaking the truth in love — otherwise how we will ever progress?”

About the Author: Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu is a graduate in journalism and economics from The George Washington University. He has worked as a cub reporter in rural Virginia and as senior copy editor for major Canadian metropolitan dailies. Tzvi wrote for Arutz Sheva for several years before joining the Jewish Press.


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96 Responses to “Church of Scotland Questions Right of Israel to Exist”

  1. Subject: JEWISH BLOOD SHOULD NOT BE CHEAP. WAKE UP JEWS AND POLITICIANS.

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  2. Yishai Kohen says:

    Action-reaction: The Church of Scotland has tangible interests here in OUR land: St. Andrew's Church in Jerusalem, The Scots Guest House in Jerusalem, The Tabeetha School in Yafo, The Scots Hotel in Tiberias, and others- not to mention the many pilgrims who come here. They want to play hardball? Fine. We can, and must, make them pay dearly for every anti-Israel move or motion.

    It is written in Mishlei (19:25): "לץ תכה ופתי יערים": "When thou smitest a scorner, the simple will become prudent". See what Rav Hutner wrote about the pasuk in Pachad Yitzhak, Purim (Ma'amar Aleph). The same applies here.

  3. Anonymous says:

    The church is correct. As of the moment the Jewish state was "proclaimed as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947", it rendered the historic Jewish homeland in all of Palestine to the history books.

    BTW The little boy in the photo is not in Israel. Why do Israelis endanger their young by placing them in non-Israeli territories?

  4. Anonymous says:

    BTW the poll on the page "Should Israel hang an Israeli flag on top of the Temple Mount (Har HaBayit) on Yom Yerushalayim (Jerusalem Day)? " misses one crucial point. Jerusalem is not the sovereign territory of Israel ( read UNSC res 476 ).

  5. Anonymous says:

    //"“The document fails to take seriously the concerns of both sides but has a partisan agenda — the promotion of Palestinian rights. Why is it so rare to find Christian organizations, let alone Jewish, which are both pro-Palestinian and pro-Israeli? Blinkered views prevail.”"//.

    Uh? The Palestinians ask for their LEGAL rights under the Laws, UN Charter and relevant Conventions Israel agreed to uphold. The law does not fall in favour of those who break it, which according to the UNSC, is Israel. The "blinkered views" prevailing, are the views of those who'd rather ignore the law.

  6. Anonymous says:

    //"The document urged the Church not only to back the boycott movement but also to lobby the British government to pressure Israel to deny the presence of Jews in Judea and Samaria."//.

    A) It's officially named the West Bank. B) Under the laws and Conventions Israel agreed to uphold, it is prohibited for Jewish Israeli AND NON-Jewish Israelis to illegally settle in "territories occupied" (UNSC Res 446).

  7. Anonymous says:

    // “it is easier for Christians to condemn anti-Semitism as a misunderstanding of Christian teaching than to come to terms with the re-establishment of the Jewish state"//.

    What twaddle. The issue is Israel's ILLEGAL actions in "territories outside the State of Israel" http://pages.citebite.com/x1r0b4d1y6mkv none of which have ever been legally annexed to Israel. ( the acquisition of territory by war has been inadmissible since at least 1933 http://pages.citebite.com/y1f0t4q1v4son ).

  8. Anonymous says:

    //"It also opposes using the Bible to “settle contemporary conflicts over land.”"//.

    Rightly so. The State of Israel is bound to adhere to the UN Charter, International Law and Customary International Law.

    The State of Israel was declared and recognized according to UNGA res 181 “MY DEAR MR. PRESIDENT: I have the honor to notify you that the state of Israel has been proclaimed as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947, and that a provisional government has been charged to assume the rights and duties of government for preserving law and order within the boundaries of Israel, for defending the state against external aggression, and for discharging the obligations of Israel to the other nations of the world in accordance with international law. The Act of Independence will become effective at one minute after six o’clock on the evening of 14 May 1948, Washington time.” http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whistlestop/study_collections/israel/large/documents/newPDF/49.pdfhttp://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/2193961?uid=3737536&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21101452858741http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/43802115http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1950/apr/27/jordan-and-israel-government-decision.

  9. Gil Gilman says:

    The COS was feeling left out of the headlines. Their thinking? If you can call it that? "The rest of the world has no corner on the flummery market.

  10. These guys should stick to their national alcoholism and leave world affairs to the sober….

  11. Who owns the West Bank, otherwise known as Judea and Samaria? I think the last legal entity was the Ottoman Empire – not Israel and not Jordan before Israel. If the last legal entity was the Ottoman empire, than the area is techically "Disputed lands". If Disputed lands, Israelis are legally allowed to be on the lands, as well as Arabs legally allowed to be on the lands. No?

  12. The fact that the UN passed this resolution does not supersede what's written in the Torah.
    Yours is merely an opinion, like mine. History will show who's right.
    BTW Hebron is mentioned specifically in the Torah. It's where Abraham purchased land for burying Sarah. To say that Jews have no rights to be there is absurd. As far as Israelis endangering their young, compare their effort to settle their homeland to the Arabs' sending their children to blow themselves up, after indoctrinating them to hate, hate, hate.

  13. Officially? There are lots of officials in this world…

    Also, whether the territories are "occupied" is a matter of opinion. Israel maintains they're "disputed". Your assumptions are merely that: assumptions.

  14. Eran Spiro says:

    The Little boy is in Israel, Why don't you visit and find out?

  15. Eran Spiro says:

    Tax the church property!

  16. As it says in the resolution above, Israel has a right to defend itself against external (Arab) aggression (that has been a constant since day 1). The UN abandoned Israel long ago by refusing to consider its need to defend itself. Instead, this useless body has consistently seen only one side of the conflict by condemning only Israel. Why, therefore, should Israel adhere to its resolutions?

  17. Brian Fink says:

    Of course the territory is disputed. Israel captured it from Jordan which has since ceded all claims. Before that it was held by the British under Mandate which was surrendered and prior to that it was part of the now defunct Ottoman Empire for 400 years. So it has never been part of 'Palestine' as no such legal entity has ever existed. Unfortunately, Scots seem to have a real problem with Jews as there has been a spate of anti-Israel/antisemitic stories recently from north of the border. If Scotland gains independence from the UK, what future will Scottish Jews have?

  18. Dan Steeves says:

    The State of Israel and the people of Israel are not the same. The State of Israel is democratic and political and reject the God of ancient Israel which was a theocracy. If the citizens of modern Israel are truly God's people why did not God save their ancestors from the Roman invasion and the devastation of Jerusalem and its temple? Good question. And the answer is? Jesus words in Matthew 23:37,38.

  19. Bottenlöst, kyrkan förnekar sig alltid.

  20. Kyrkan förråder sig själv och Yeshua, hur skall det kännas för dessa när Messias.
    kommer till Oljeberget I Jerusalem och inte till London.

  21. Jan Zollars says:

    Wow, with the horrific history of Scotland and the British Isles in general, they have a lot of chutzpah!

  22. As a Christian I am DUMFOUNDED. If Christianity moves away from Biblical truth – yes Jewish history how can they call themselves Christian. Jesus Christ was, is & always be born a Jew. Of Jewish lineage. Born in ISRAEL. He came to the Jews first. There were no Catholics, nor Prodestants. Oh well, they will all be answerable to GOD ALMIGHTY.

  23. The U.N. resolutions referred to were superseded by Arab aggression, not to mention the fact that the Arabs never accepted these resolutions to begin with. Israel accepted for its part but the conditions were modified by Arab unwillingness to live in peace, which resulted in invasions. The U.N. has consistently refused to intervene, so long as there was a chance the Israelis would be beaten. When that providentially fails to materialize, they're quick to jump in to help the poor, downtrodden Arab aggressors. What insane hypocrisy!

  24. true as the sun and the moon!

  25. Bets Jansen says:

    The church supports Vanunu.

  26. What did you say?

  27. Ephraim Bander says:

    I will bless those who bless you and CURSE those who curse you. This is great. Let them dig their own anti semetic graves.

  28. Jay Sprueill says:

    The top official that determined where the seed of Abraham could live is GOD. Now I am a Scott but I am a Christain first, and I personaly trust in the WORD of GOD.

  29. seriously who cares what the church thinks…they are guilty of crimes against humanity for hundreds of years.

  30. Stewart Winter-Jaffey says:

    Who the hell are they and who really cares what they think. Most of the world is against us anyways and are obsessed with all that we do or say..so if the Church of Scotland has a problem with us, tell them to stand in line with the rest of the nations or STFU!

  31. Philippe Assouline says:

    The UN resolution was rejected by the Arab "leaders" who now whine of statelessness… and as a GA resolution is not binding. The Mandate system pursuant to the League of Nations endorsement of San Remo IS however binding. That gives Israel a claim to all the territory under dispute. It withdrawals are concessions, not due.

  32. Ahron Ebert says:

    But there are now millions of Jews living in Eretz Yisroel. What do the Scots want to do with them.

    Arceologist have found that Scottish soldiers were involed in the Chorbin. The are contiuning that war.

    When will Scottish people leave Canada since there presents has created disputes with the Natives.

  33. Ahron Ebert says:

    But there are now millions of Jews living in Eretz Yisroel. What do the Scots want to do with them.

    Arceologist have found that Scottish soldiers were involed in the Chorbin. The are contiuning that war.

    When will Scottish people leave Canada since there presents has created disputes with the Natives.

  34. Joe Newman says:

    They apparently believe that God is a liar whose word is worthless– what part of God's multiple statements to Israel that his covenant with them is "eternal" and "everlasting" do they not get, as well as the multiple statements via the Prophets about how the remnant of Israel has not been forgotten by Him and we will return with Him to our home?

  35. Because you are wrong. Israel did not proclaim the General Assembly Resolution as our borders. Those were illegal according the UN Charter.

    Our legal border is the Jordan River and the illegal Arab colonists need to be deported

  36. Because you are wrong. Israel did not proclaim the General Assembly Resolution as our borders. Those were illegal according the UN Charter.

    Our legal border is the Jordan River and the illegal Arab colonists need to be deported

  37. Liar – it has never had that as an official designation. It is official known as Judea and Samaria.

    The UN has no authority over any part of the land

  38. Nanette CohenRayman says:

    I question the right of Scotland and THE CHURCH to exist and for the church to be anywhere in Israel.

  39. For the first time in my life, I believe that I am ashamed of my family name, McPherson.

  40. The United Nations resolution of 1947 was the selling of the Jewish people to the Arabs.
    The Palestinians had aleady 80-85% of Palestine from 1920 in there hands. And in 1947 the UN did samething, by dividing that litle pc that was left again to give the Palestinians some more of Palestine.

  41. israel é do povo judeu, hoje. vejam as profécias : zac. e isaias.

  42. israel é do povo judeu, hoje. vejam as profécias : zac. e isaias.

  43. It is ironic that the Scottish Church not only rejects one the main theme of the Old Testament the relationship of the people of Israel to the Land of Israel, it also rejects the Koran which also acknowledges the relationship between Bene Israel and the Land of Israel.

    It is one thing to worship at the altar of political correctness, and another to flush the Bible. This also flushes all the rights of all the many countries that were based on the San Remo Treaty.

    I hope they reconsider this as it will not help create an atmosphere that can help either Palestinians or Jews to deny either the Biblical or historical ties of the Jewish people to the Land.

  44. Anonymous says:

    Exactly. Make the stupid Scots pay for being stupid. And keep close watch on the Church of England, too.

  45. The Israeli's don't teach their children to hate and blow others up. The Jewish home land can be found in history books prior to 1948. The ignorant refuse to do the research!

  46. The scottish idiots should mind their own racist business and make kilts. Israel is the land of the Jewish people and many gentiles will never accept it because they are jealous of us and expect us to be persecuted and without a country. We got our land back and you scottish morons can kiss my ass. My Israel defend and destroy all her enemies.

  47. David Orcutt says:

    The Church Of Scotland needs to read

  48. David Orcutt says:

    The Church of Scotland needs to read their own Bible, God's word. god gave that land to Israel. God never took back his promise. God loves the Palastinians and the Jews. But when you oppose God you are fighting a loosing cause. A Christian church that opposes the Bible for what it says is a very twisted view of the Christian faith. Anyone honest concerning what is going on can clearly see that Israel is not the aggressor, and IS NOT THE OCCUPIER. The world community has believed one of the BIGGEST lies of all time. If the Bible is just a book written by man, you can make up anything you want, you can rewrite history or do whatever you like. BUT, IF THE BIBLE IS GOD'S WORD, THAT IS A VERY FRIGHTENING PLACE TO BE. May the creator of all things open the eyes of the Church of Scotland.

  49. Louise Angus says:

    As a Christian I am both appalled and saddened that any Christian church would write and advocate such things. It casts a shadow and can sour Israeli Christian relations. I hope that one bad apple doesn't spoil the whole bunch. I don't stand in any way with what the Church of Scotland is saying about Jewish claims in Israel.

  50. Yechiel Baum says:

    The church of scotland should retire to Ugana since Idi Imin claimed to be the King of Scotland. Poor charlie, he cant be a prince over nothing anymore.

  51. Yechiel Baum says:

    The church of scotland should retire to Ugana since Idi Imin claimed to be the King of Scotland. Poor charlie, he cant be a prince over nothing anymore.

  52. Ron Kall says:

    talknic is not worth debating. You can't occupy territory that does not belong to another country! These territories are disputed and anyone has as much right to be there as another! Jordan occupied parts of Israel after the 1948 war and then lost it in the '67 war and of course, for the 19 years it was "occupied by the arab Jordanians, there was no such people called Palestinians!

  53. Israel doesn't need a particular claim to be a nation. It is already a nation. I believe that God brought the people back and placed them in this Land, and this is continuing. But it already exists as a nation, whatever I believe or don't believe. Israel has fought for survival and is still fighting for suvival. Continuously. This document assumes that Israel is treacherous, and aggressive, etc. etc. and grounds for Israel to be dispossed not only from the West Bank, but also from its own land. I don't believe other nations are dealt with this way. Only Israel is dealt with this way, using theological, grounds, which are not only false, but also permeable to the so much evil and false thinking. Israel is treated not as a nation that exists but as some theological construct of mind. But Israel does not think of itself that way. I am totally of the belief that God has brought the people back to the Land, and that if God would open our eyes we would see the the horsemen and chariots of fire in the skies round about us, as they were of Elisha and the young man. But that is totally congruent with my eyes looking up and seeing Israeli planes off the shores of Syria and missiles smash convoys or installations for chemicals and delivery systems. This document is another form of warfare, and my hopes and prayers is that the good people of the Scottish Church will reject it totally if it ever comes up to their General Assembly.

  54. Also to be noted, this is not a document of the Scottish Church. This is a document within the Scottish Church hoping to bring the whole Church over to its way of thinking at its General Assembly. The more "traditional" recent thought of the Church was as expressed, "A land without a people, for a people without a land". This is too simplistic, but nevertheless, shows the until recent approach of many or most of the Scottish Church.

  55. Dan,

    Yes, God did not save His people from the devastations and disasters, but he did promise to bring them back.' He that scatterth Israel, will gather…". Also, failure, and abandonment, derision, and rejection is no indication of rebuke from God, It seems you are a believer in the New Testament. Jesus said no man takes my life from me, I lay it down of my own accord, Yet, on the cross, the he heard words indicating his "failure", He saved others, he can't save himself?", If you are the Son of God come down and we will believe. Job likewise, suffered much disaster. His friends justified all this accusing him as being the cause of all these, But God shut them up and forgave them only at the prayer of Job for them.

  56. Elvin Tarud says:

    Many people in the world believe that the Palestinian Fairytale is a true story… In that story there is no place for Israel…(Norwegian link).
    https://tarud.wordpress.com/

  57. I would call it previously occupied Jordanian land.

  58. Anonymous says:

    As an agnostic Scot I can only agree with the stand taken by my national church. Zionist claims on the West Bank are based entirely on biblical sources. No serious scholars of the ancient near east regard the Bible as an historical record, it is mythos not logos. The same goes for Zionist claims to the rest of historic Palestine. This has to be said.

  59. The Roman empire in 70 A.D FACTUALLY defeated Israel and destroyed the temple in Israel. I CAN PROVE THAT. I will give you a link that shows the Roman arch that was built to commemorate the victory. It still stands today in Rome. It even shows the Roman soldiers with booty taken from the temple. It shows a menora candle stand very prominently in the picture. Fact is that Israel did exist and had their temple just as the Bible claims and the Roman empire who hated Israel is used by God today to show proof of their existance that pre-dated the religion of Islam by hundreds of years. Here is the link: http://www.scholarscorner.com/museums/titus.htm If your a fair minded person, it is tough to argue with proof like this.

  60. The Roman empire in 70 A.D FACTUALLY defeated Israel and destroyed the temple in Israel. I CAN PROVE THAT. I will give you a link that shows the Roman arch that was built to commemorate the victory. It still stands today in Rome. It even shows the Roman soldiers with booty taken from the temple. It shows a menora candle stand very prominently in the picture. Fact is that Israel did exist and had their temple just as the Bible claims and the Roman empire who hated Israel is used by God today to show proof of their existance that pre-dated the religion of Islam by hundreds of years. Here is the link: http://www.scholarscorner.com/museums/titus.htm If your a fair minded person, it is tough to argue with proof like this.

  61. Those who don't believe the Bible, care to have some proof of Israel's existace in the land of Israel and Jerusalem that predates the Islamic faith? Objectively and honestly look at the arch that depicts Rome's victory in 70 AD over Israel and see the implements of the old Jewish temple being taken by Rome. Then with that factual information, realize that Israel factually existed in Jerusalem in 70 AD and that God’s Temple was real. They are not occupying Islamic land. They have been returned as a nation to their home land just as God in the Bible said he would in the latter days. Do we really think that ANCIENT ROME built the arch in Rome just to fool Muslim people in the future? Islam did not exist in 70 AD at the time of this battle ROME built that arch as bragging rights and to remember their victory. They then renamed the area from Israel to Palestine, in a vain effort to end the memory of Israel. It of course did not work and Israel has now been restored by God as he promised. Here is a link to see the actual arch in ROME that was made in 70 AD after the sacking of Jerusalem by Titus of Rome. Notice the Manora from the temple in Jerusalem. This is factual evidence left from Rome, the enemy of Israel, that still stands in Rome today and can be seen by anyone. This is older that the muslim religion. http://www.scholarscorner.com/museums/titus.htm

  62. Rose Galston says:

    I'm hereby removing all my money from that bank! Screw 'em!

  63. Dan Steeves says:

    The very respected jewish historian, Josephus, described in
    great detail the devastation of Jerusalem and its temple in the year 70 C.E. The temple was never rebuilt as a place of worship for the jewish people. All the geneological records were destroyed. What does all this indicate? That modern Israel cannot lay claim to being God's chosen people. Jesus prophecy regarding God's rejecting of Israel was foretold by Jesus in Luke 19:41-44.

  64. You are entitled to your opinion – however wrong it may be.

  65. Sam, I, too ,as Richard Barnes, below me, believe that God has brought His people back to the Land of Israel. But, I also think that Israel is a bona fide nation, just like other nations. I do not see Israel's "agressiveness", and the great majority of positions Israel has taken as aggressiveness. I see it as defensive and warranted pre-empting. And basically necessary to survive. Many serious scholars believe the Bible has a very good grasp and reflection of History, as it happened. and warrants serious regard. Just one out of many – the recent find of the Dan Stele from the with the name of the "House of David" from a couple of centuries after David lived, upsetting the theories that David was non existant or nothing more than a Tribal sheikh, certainly not the progenitor of a dynasty "House" to be contended with as Haddad had to do at Dad about 200 years after David. this is not a fundamentalist position that can be dismissed lightly. This is one out of many.

  66. The Church of Scotland has deliberately refused to deal with the question of Gay Ministers and has been known to delay any decisions for years.This church has become apostate and will decline over the coming months and years.It is full of intellectual idiots and Ministers who have sold their soul to the Devil.

  67. Cathy Cronin says:

    The church is filled with gays what do you expect. They actually believe that Christ was God on earth which is idol worship and further more they didn't stop the pedophiles in their ranks. Evil is as evil does….the Catholic church of course knows the truth about their idol worship but business is business and they just want to contnue leading

  68. Cathy Cronin says:

    Continued…..the Catholic church just continues to fool the bound followers.

  69. israele is the jewish land , God iss with his people……………. God bless israele.

  70. Amah Jones says:

    Hebrews/Jews worldwide must resist any attempt to reverse Jewish ownership and control of Israel. http://www.gottwein.de/roge/his.0068.php

  71. Anchal Ace Samuel says:

    May I add a christian zionist, that these views of a scottish church no way represents much of the mainstream evangelical christianity, which totally supports jewish sovereignity over the land of Israel. We do not believe half the bible, we believe all of it.
    God gave Abraham all the land between Nile and Euphrates, and that is the true boundaries of Israel. God has not cancelled away the land grant.
    The coming of Jesus as the Jewish Messiah in the second advent which we gloriously await will lead to fulfillment of Israel's destiny and its future as a light unto all the nations. That is what I believe.
    Time for Israel lovers to speak for Israel…

  72. What right to exist does Scotland have? We can't have much of a world without Jews – but what's the point of Scots or Scotland?

  73. John Taui says:

    it's all the devils work to destroy the Jews.

  74. He who bless Israel will be blessed; he who curse Israel will be cursed. Watch out Church of Scotland!

  75. Trevor Pavy says:

    As a Christian from the Land Down Under (Australia) I find it amazing that any "Christian" organisation doesn't get God's words to Abraham in Genesis 12:3.
    New King James Version (NKJV).

    3 I will bless those who bless you,
    And I will curse him who curses you;.
    And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”.

    The land of Israel is ISRAEL'S land FULL STOP. It is the "so called Palestinians" that have NO RIGHT to the land at all. This is not only Biblical History (As in the Torah) but it is also a historical fact from the early 20th century with the still legal documents that were signed in 1922 for the Jewish Homeland.

    God Bless Israel & her people.

  76. Nothing is new ander the sun! The church should seak for pease between people and not incoureg heatred. This Church should be abolished !

  77. So the Jews of Scotland are beginning to worry. It is time for all Jews living in Exile to worry. The Exile is coming to an end. Incidents like this are just the beginning. Forget "interfaith". Either accept Biblical destiny or go down opposing it. The only response for Jews is to come home now while it is still easy. Scotland is no place for a Jew. We have a homeland now. Lets just come home.

  78. Brian Emmons says:

    The Church of Scotland should reject such a doctrine and evil reasoning immediately if the leaders are of The Lord , but for them to even entertain such lies shows they are far away from him that speaks from above.
    The document is nothing more than the lies of Satan the dragon.
    The Lord has spoken in his word and he shall uphold that which He spoke. The Lord has said, "God is not a man, that he should ever lie, nor the son of man, that he should repent."

  79. All the greatests rabbis questionned the right of the state of israel to exist

  80. satmar rebbe, avigdor miller, the true lubavitch rebbes, the chofetz chaim, sonnenfeld… do you need more names?

  81. Cindy Bazis Dunn says:

    Sounds like the church of scotland does not know the history of God's People and I dare say God is not going to abide scotland's arrogant decision just because they voted on it….I'm of irish and scottish background and am just about embarrassed to even acknowledge it with this and the teachers boycott in ireland….especially with their cooperation of the catholics molestation and abuse of their children….take the splinter out of your own eye before plucking it from another…

  82. Van Fenn says:

    I believe all true Christians should love Jews and support Israel. As a Christian I find this latest move by the Church of Scotland very disturbing.

  83. Aaron Murphy says:

    Wow! So here is another church that is choosing to stand against the Jewish people and against the eternal Covenants that God made with him. Do the leaders of these churches realize that they are choosing to side with enemies of God and the Messiah whom they claim to follow? The gravity of this decision is tremendous! They are choosing to stand against Jerusalem, Judea and Samaria, and in doing so they stand against the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob! This decision is in 100% agreement with all the nations of the world that gather together to fight against Jerusalem as prophesied in Zechariah 14. The Messiah is going to return and fight against everyone who has chosen to stand against Jerusalem, when He stands upon the Mount of Olives. How can those who stand against Jerusalem and His people Israel have any place in the 'Kingdom of Heaven' that He is coming to establish? Choosing to stand against Israel is choosing to stand and fight against the Messiah that these churches claim to support.

    They are also aligning themselves with the plan of Hitler's "Final Solution." The first step towards the annihilation of 6 million Jews was the call which stated "Do Not Buy from Jews!" As the call for Boycotts, Divestment and Sanctions of Israel is made in the world toady, just like the German Church in Nazi Germany, churches around the world today are coming into agreement with the enemies of God.

    There is a grave need for Christians and especially pastors, priests, and leaders to be educated and taught the truth. Where is the voice of those who like Dietrich Bonhoeffer will stand for the truth even if the government all the churches turn their backs on Jewish people?

    FOR ZION'S SAKE, DO NOT BE SILENT!

  84. Really? Well those Rabbis are all gone. Israel is still here. If it weren't G-d's Will it just wouldn't be! Rabbis can make mistakes. If the rebirth of the Jewish State is not the beginning of fulfillment of Biblical prophesy, then how do you explain it? And how can you explain its continued existence when not only the world is opposed to it, but our own leaders seem to be working with our enemies? We don't need a right to exist. It is the Will of G-d that we exist and that is all we need.

  85. Lynne Denena says:

    UNBELIEVABLE! More and more, the Christians around the world are spouting complete ignorance of the TRUTH which makes me question, ARE THEY REALLY CHRISTIANS?

  86. Arie's Pragmatic Politics says:

    The same scots that freed the mass murderer of 259 Americans – mainly Jews – for a few barrels of oil. There is no difference between the Scot Church and Hitler's Pope, other then the language they speak. Both glorified the SS Nazi tattoos they sport.

  87. Arie's Pragmatic Politics says:

    Bets Jansen The Scot Church also supported Al-Megrahi in his massacre of 259 Americans – mainly students. The Scot Church is old school Christianity – with a bible much like Hitler's Pope calling for the extermination of all Jews "in the name of g-d," much like their jihadist paymasters

  88. Arie's Pragmatic Politics says:

    Eran Spiro Facts and Truth to the jihadists and Scot Church are the equivalent of four-letter curse words. The Scots are the true scions of Hitler's Pope and the Third Reich

  89. Arie's Pragmatic Politics says:

    The only trade they have is exporting sweaters and drunks

  90. Dan Steeves says:

    It's not my opinion. It's history.

  91. Kate Anderson says:

    Shame on them, indeed. My heritage is Scottish from way back, but I would never support such a thing.

  92. Gary Moraco says:

    Nonsense.

  93. Seriously who cares what the Jews think, by that same thought process? Grow up and debate correctly please! And since when is Judaism Zionism? That really is backward thinking…

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