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Are the Haredim Just Going to Keep on Going to the Right?

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Everybody likes to discuss the Haredim, both in Israel and around the world. In a sense, they’re the Jews’ Jews: foreign, isolated, mired in poverty, exulting in astonishing wealth, infuriating with their indifference to the outside world, surprising in their acts of charity.

No one who has lived close to Haredim or studied them closely can walk away with a simple opinion of either love or hate. But we’re not interested so much in your opinion about the Haredim, but in a strong trend that seems to be impacting this community worldwide at an increasing force: they seem to constantly be moving to the right.

And as their numbers are growing at an unusual rate, the end result is that the Jewish nation is being dragged further and further to the right with its Haredim.

By “right” we don’t mean political positions, but rather the ever growing areas of our lives which used to be conducted in a rather liberal manner by most Jews, including the Orthodox, and are no longer. many of them are in the area of Tznius-sexual modesty

Mixed seating is no longer an option in many Jewish weddings; segregated buses are more visible than ever; some neighborhoods have introduced separate sidewalks for men and women; ugly phenomena like cursing and spitting at women, even religious ones, have become part of the nomenclature.

But there’s more: demographic growth has given life to a Haredi media treating reality in a disturbing fashion to many; defense of unseemly phenomena in Haredi circles ends up promoting even more of that; Haredi influence in Israel sometimes makes a mockery of elections, tenants’ rights, defense of the country; Haredi influence in America occasionally galvanizes broad support for scoundrels.

Haredi influence is ever-present in the lives of non-Haredi religious Jews, whose kashrut is under Haredi control simply because of economics; it’s also ever-present in the lives of secular Jews, especially in Israel, because the Haredim control the chief rabbinate which, in turns, controls most aspects of civilian registration; it also controls the fate of olim from abroad, sanctioning and boycotting congregational rabbis based on strictly political yardsticks.

In short, the bigger the Haredi community grows, the greater its ability to dominate our lives is getting, and the more they seem to be pulling the rest of us into what many view as a restrictive direction.

You’re welcome to dispute any one of our assertions: we’ve attempted to depict a kind of overall impression many non-Haredim share about the Haredim. But we’re interested in a deeper, more intriguing and crucial question:

Will it ever end? Will the pendulum ever stop swinging to the right?

Ladies and gentlemen, start your keyboards.

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6 Responses to “Are the Haredim Just Going to Keep on Going to the Right?”

  1. Myriam Obadia says:

    it depends on the Haredi. Do they want to keep on losing their daughters to mixed marriage to Muslim-Arabs? If they do they will proceed apace, if they don't they will ponder on the increasingly Islamic way they are treating women.

  2. Moishe Pupik says:

    Myriam Obadia · Are you sure the Haredi women object to the life style you're describing as "increasingly Islamic"? Maybe they like it just fine?

  3. Myriam Obadia says:

    One doesn't run away from what one likes.

  4. Jonathan Weber says:

    I think the whole thing with the increasingly odd way Haredi are acting is a matter of control by their Rabbinate. And let me stress – this is not all Haredim – just the ones whom we hear and read most about. We don't hear any admonishing from their leaders when they act in a non-Torah way. They are building fences around fences on the Torah which is also prohibited and trying to impose their Humrot on everyone else. They have no conception of the damage they are doing to Judaism and pushing many people further and further from our religion. The Reform and Conservative moments are unfortunately growing in Israel mostly as a direct result of what the average Israeli feels is Orthodox Judaism. And the damage these left oriented movements have done to Judaism in America should be a warning to the Haredi Rabbis that control everything. As one of the Rabbis said in my community here in New Jersey put it – "The Haredim need to grow up."

  5. Moishe Pupik says:

    Jonathan Weber · OK, I basically agree with everything you're saying. But the question is: should this situation only continue — do you see the Haredim ever stopping the move to the right, or are they destined to keep on adding chumrot and restrictions?

    The economics of this proposition suggest that at some point they will have to topple under the weight of their own mistakes. Either they'll cause rebellion against them in Israel, or they'll start suffering in great numbers from the ravages of persistent poverty.

  6. It's an intellectual trap worthy of the NY Times to continue to use the outdated "right-left" "liberal-conservative" nomenclature to describe anything but politics, disclaimers are not acceptable .

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