What a handsome… devil! ||| You know, Jesus is whatever people say since there has never been a clear factual basis. There’s a whole branch of religious studies populated by mostly Christian scholars who do not believe their own literary accounts. So sure, Jesus is a Palestinian to a Pal, a queer to queers, a Jew to Jews (for Jesus), and money for pandering marketeers selling him at the store and church, he’s peaceful, vengeful, freedom fighter, communist, republican, Nazi, white, black, liberal, racist, just whatever you see when you look in the mirror because people who worship a man are often just worshiping themselves. Everyone and no one.
There was a historical Jesus of Nazareth, just as there were real people in Tanakh. You can’t say what you said about Moses or the Patriarchs. They were not fairy tales. You need to actually read the CHristian part of the Bible and read Messianic Jewish scholars, not the fools you cite who fictionalize not only the Christian scriptures but the Jewish ones. Please. Take a look and let your own Ruach in.
that we even find ourselves in the position of having to remind people about the history and biological descent of jesus is an absolute joke. and in answer to the person who remarked "you forgot to mention he was killed by the jews": first of all this is not factually correct, and second: even if it were factually correct, tell me what that has to do with the price of fish please? are you saying nobody ever killed a member of their own kind? what exactly is your point?
i remember the time when i laughed out loud at what one British Womens' Institute member said to another when they were talking about jesus.
woman 1: yes, but you forget that jesus was not a christian, he was actually born a jew.
woman 2: dont be so ridiculous !
Really. I was raised Christian, believed, attended church, was ‘born again,’ and active various messianic venues. I have been engaged historical Jesus for over 35 years. That included learning Greek and then Biblical Hebrew, then Judaism in order to ‘save’ Jews. Then I was really saved by God from Christian horse****. I and my family was immediately attacked, I personally when my resignation was given, my property vandalized, my career taken as well as my livelihood. Christianity and Christians are not godly or good and I am ashamed of ever being one. There is no messianic + Jewish or a Christian part of the Bible. It is a cult and you need to escape and worship God instead of a dead man.
You compare J. to biblical figures, and within that reasoning he is placed within some type of ‘package deal’ — “If Mosheh is in the Bible, and real” for example, then J. is in the Christian writings we want considered Bible, and “real” also. But here’s what you people miss: J. is not compared with Mosheh, or any other biblical figure (and we do not obsess on the person of Mosheh or any other); instead it is God you compare and often equate J. with… since J. equals a real person like Mosheh then whatever we say say about him is true also…. In my studies, Jesus is (was) a real person, and possibly a good one—but that does not make him anything Christians claim about him true, or their religion true. It simply makes him interesting and we can only try to reconstruct him as a decent person in spite of some very bad people and an extremely bad religion that rejects God for the well documented evil of Christianity. Jews can actually look at the Jewish man and totally reject the bizarre and completely pagan Christian mystery cult. It is very unlikely he had anything ever to do with that cult begun by Paul of Tarsus and others inserting a figure within existing at the time.
Read Isaiah 53 for his physical description. Then read the gospels to compare. Isaiah is not talking about Israel , anyway the Jewish people are gods chosen people. Curse those that curse Israel and bless those that bless lsrael genesis 27-29.
Comment by Anonymous — December 24, 2013 @ 5:38 PM
He was the first "Reform" Jew, who went off the derech and said that Jews didn't have to follow the Torah. A true meshugah. The goyim even celebrate "Circumcision Day" on the eighth day following December 25th. If only he had been Mashiach, the world wouldn't be in the mess it is today. So obviously he wasn't.
Comment by Anonymous — December 24, 2013 @ 7:13 PM
He was Israeli, so the drawing should look more Sephardic.
Comment by Anonymous — December 24, 2013 @ 7:15 PM
I would look at the people who vandalized your things, picked on you and your family. Those people are just plain bad. You can find good and bad people in each religion. Trust me, I was raised pentecostal and thrown out as a child. Then I grew up and found nasty people pretty much were everywhere. Celebrating the good people, no matter their religion, taking joy in a kind act, knowing that you and your family can be lights in the darkness is translatable to anyone who needs that light.
He never looked like Arafat as shown in the article's picture. His name was YAHOSHUA and He was Hebrew from the tribe of Yahuda, living in Natzareth. He was neither white nor black but was very much Middle Eastern. How do I know this? Bcoz He is direct descendant of King David so one has only to refer to the description given of King David in 1-SH’MUEL/SAMUEL-16:12 – He (David0 was tanned, with bright eyes and very good looking. The way Yahoshua is portrayed here is a direct insult the soon coming Mashiach of Yisrael. Look more deeply into all the Scriptures for they point directly to YAHOSHUA the only true Mashiach of Yisrael.
Comment by Anonymous — December 24, 2013 @ 7:55 PM
Jesus or Jesus Christ is the distorted Roman name for YAHOSHUA and Christianity is an utterly pagan religion and has nothing to do with YAHOSHUA or the TORAH. This so-called Jesus and his religion (Christianity) existed since the destruction of the Tower of Babel. This Jesus is the imposter of YAHOSHUA an utterly pagan satanic deity that was invented by Romans to fool the Natzarim the early converts to TORAH. YAHOSHUA was very PRO-TORAH. Bottom line: He and He (YAHOSHUA) is the true Mashiach. Blessed be His Holy name.
Comment by Anonymous — December 24, 2013 @ 8:08 PM
In response to Cvstodio Bxrnardes re: You forgot to say He was killed by jews…
Don't do pseudo Bible reader – read thoroughly and research … It is the ROMANS who killed nailed (not JESUS) … but …YAHOSHUA to the cross and killed Him.
Comment by Anonymous — December 24, 2013 @ 9:08 PM
Jesus was born in Bethlehem and grew up in Nazereth
I would not mind if the Jews were honestly credited for killing jesus when in fact, he was killed by the Romans a.k.a modern Italians.
now he is a palestinanian as per abbas so he can claim the Vatican and Italy and rest of the pagan world.
The blacks also claim he was black so the Africans want him too.
The only one who does not want him is the Jews. so no need to have his pagan churches in the Jewish Sate of Israel since it is unappreciated.
I understand how you feel, but I hope you do not think we are all Catholic’s because usually when people think Christian they think Rome, but that does not define the true Christian’s. A true Christian stands behind Israel no matter what they are not political. They know who their Savior is and what He is and that is a Jew, and if it wasn’t for the Jews we would not have a chance at salvation, so a true Christian is always thankful for the Jewish people. No Christ was not an Arab and no there was never a Palestine for Arab’s. It’s all political, but when Christ comes back He will fight for Israel and put down all of Israel’s enemies. Then will there will be peace for Israel. Just remember a true Christian loves Israel and will always stand with her.
G-d is not a man!!is that a difficult concept? Concerning the Moshiasch issue-Moshiach is supposed to be descended from King David. Tribal lineage is traced through the father- and Yoshke didn’t have a father supposedly.
Comment by lisa berger — December 25, 2013 @ 4:54 AM
It’s okay. One day, the beloved Jewish people will respond in their hearts concerning Jesus like the sons of Jacob did towards their brother Joseph: “We are verily guilty concerning our brother, in that we saw the anguish of his soul when he besought us, and we would not hear. Therefore has this distress come upon us.” (Genesis 42:21)
Jesus went willingly to the cross. Apparently Jesus was not black but there was a black man that helped him carry the cross after he was whipped and beaten According to Marks gospel Jesus died at 3 oclock in the afternoon during Passover. At 3 oclock the sacrifice in the temple was complete .The Schofar blew, It was finished also at 3 oclock the sky went black and there was a strong earthquake that rent the vail in the temple in two. The vail called the garment of God . A Hebrew custom to tear a garment from top to bottom at the loss of a loved one.
Comment by Anonymous — December 25, 2013 @ 5:30 AM
You must be very proud of your children. A lot of protestant Christian organizations do their best to support the state of Israel.,myself included. Christmas is an evolved event. Santa clauss which has nothing to do with Christianity. The Christmas tree which has various origins ,is neither here nor there to do with Chritianity . The birth of Christ not celebrated on his birthday. It is what it is. But there is one thing I am sure of the State of Israel and its people, there families do have friends.
Comment by Anonymous — December 25, 2013 @ 9:22 PM
Actually it is surprising that Abbas should make the same claim as his precessor Arafat. They are cut from same cloth. Jesus was no more a Palestinian than I am the Pope. The Archbishop must be one of those who believe the stinking lie that the Church has replaced Israel. I have news for him God has never nor will He ever give up on the Jewish people nor Israel….
Christ's death was orchestrated by both Jewish leaders and Roman leaders. Also, the ancient Romans and the modern Italians are not the same; ancient Rome had many citizens of non-Italian ancestry, esp. in the Roman Army. And if you are going to call Christian churches :pagan", don't act shocked the next time a Christian calls you out for the anti-Jesus comments in the Talmud, K?
Comment by Annette Rf — December 27, 2013 @ 1:48 AM
Great book on the subject: "The Big Lie" by Michael Cohen on Amazon and lulu I would suggest both of you read it.
Larry Cheshier I'm a former Jew who became a Traditional Catholic when I was 18 (I'm 54 now). I was raised in a frum household, so the whole Halachic thing is familiar to me. Jesus has given me an inner peace that Judaism truly never gave me. I'm not looking to convert anyone, just explaining why I'm not interested in debate.
Comment by Annette Rf — December 27, 2013 @ 5:51 PM