Sterling: It’s the world! You go to Israel; the blacks are just treated like dogs.
V: So do you have to treat them like that too?
Sterling: The white Jews, there’s white Jews and black Jews, do you understand?
V: And are the black Jews less than the white Jews?
Sterling: A hundred percent, fifty, a hundred percent.
V: And is that right?
Sterling: It isn’t a question—we don’t evaluate what’s right and wrong, we live in a society. We live in a culture. We have to live within that culture.
V: But shouldn’t we take a stand for what’s wrong? And be the change and the difference?
Sterling: I don’t want to change the culture, because I can’t. It’s too big and too [unknown].
V: But you can change yourself.
Sterling: I don’t want to change. If my girl can’t do what I want, I don’t want the girl. I’ll find a girl that will do what I want! Believe me. I thought you were that girl—because I tried to do what you want. But you’re not that girl.
V: It’s like saying, “Let’s just persecute and kill all of the Jews.”
Sterling: Oh, it’s the same thing, right?
V: Isn’t it wrong? Wasn’t it wrong then? With the Holocaust? And you’re Jewish, you understand discrimination.
Sterling: You’re a mental case; you’re really a mental case. The Holocaust, we’re comparing with—
V: Racism! Discrimination.
Sterling: There’s no racism here. If you don’t want to be… walking… into a basketball game with a certain… person, is that racism?